97% of Chemotherapy Doesn?t Work & Is Still Being Used Only For One Reason

[wehateporn]

Doctors and pharmaceutical companies make money from it. That?s the only reason chemotherapy is still used. Not because it?s effective, decreases morbidity, mortality or diminishes any specific cancer rates. In fact, it does the opposite. Chemotherapy boosts cancer growth and long-term mortality rates. Most chemotherapy patients either die or are plagued with illness within 10-15 years after treatment. It destroys their immune system, increases neuro-cognitive decline, disrupts endocrine functioning and causes organ and metabolic toxicities. Patients basically live in a permanent state of disease until their death. The cancer industry marginalizes safe and effective cures while promoting their patented, expensive, and toxic remedies whose risks far exceed any benefit. This is what they do best, and they do it because it makes money, plain and simple.

The reason a 5-year relative survival rate is the standard used to assess mortality rates is due to most cancer patients going downhill after this period. It?s exceptionally bad for business and the cancer industry knows it. They could never show the public the true 97% statistical failure rate in treating long-term metastatic cancers. If they did publish the long-term statistics for all cancers administered cytotoxic chemotherapy, that is 10+ years and produced the objective data on rigorous evaluations including the cost-effectiveness, impact on the immune system, quality of life, morbidity and mortality, it would be very clear to the world that chemotherapy makes little to no contribution to cancer survival at all. No such study has ever been conducted by independent investigators in the history of chemotherapy. The only studies available come from industry funded institutions and scientists and none of them have ever inclusively quantified the above variables.

Continued Chemotherapy Doesn't Work & Is Used Only For One Reason

[MaDalton]

people like you are dangerous - i said it before - if i had any say i'd ban you from here - you dont contribute anything useful anyways

a girl i knew just died this week due to cancer because she read the crap assholes like you post, refused chemotherapy and went for some bullshit "natural" therapy.

Would she had survived if she did chemo? no one knows.

but thanks to fucking assholes like you she did not do everything what is possible

[TeenCat]

cancer is hardcore business and even if there are ways to cure some parts, it is hard to push them somewhere where have been tons of millions blew up into research. only government can do something with that rules, but pharma industry is so powerful so it is hard to order them to do something for people but for wasted money. have luck everyone

[jimmycooper]

Yeah, i think it's about time this dumb little cunt gets banned. Or at the very least we need to get Harmon on the case.

[ITraffic]

kill yourself.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

kill yourself.

Well said.

[Craft]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

people like you are dangerous - i said it before - if i had any say i'd ban you from here - you dont contribute anything useful anyways

a girl i knew just died this week due to cancer because she read the crap assholes like you post, refused chemotherapy and went for some bullshit "natural" therapy.

Would she had survived if she did chemo? no one knows.

but thanks to fucking assholes like you she did not do everything what is possible

Aim sorry form your loss. If you stude Chemo a bit you will find out it's not the best in some cases it is proberly. It's not black and white. Chemo is however not the future.

[2MuchMark]

FUCK YOU WEHATEPORN YOU MISERABLE FUCKING BASTARD.

I lost my Father to cancer years ago, and I lost my Mother and my Sister due to Cancer within a year of each other, and one of my friends lost his sister to cancer too.

When my Mom was diagnosed, I personally spent a lot of time trying to understand everything I could about the cancer and understand what the doctors were saying as far as possible treatments so I could help my Mom make a decision. It was made much worse thanks to PRICKS LIKE YOU by casting doubt on medical doctors and science and suggesting alternative homeopathic therapy bullshit, clouding my Mom's decision and maker her WASTE HER TIME.

People with cancer need to see doctors right away and need to take the treatment prescribed to them by real doctors who use real science. The last thing they need are delays in good judgement caused by DOUBT thanks to fucking low-lifes like you spread this fucking shit.

Fuck you, you goddam bastard. Fuck you.

[atom]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

people like you are dangerous - i said it before - if i had any say i'd ban you from here - you dont contribute anything useful anyways

a girl i knew just died this week due to cancer because she read the crap assholes like you post, refused chemotherapy and went for some bullshit "natural" therapy.

Would she had survived if she did chemo? no one knows.

but thanks to fucking assholes like you she did not do everything what is possible

my neighbor died a few years ago because of the exact same thing. Drank silver, ate some weird ass green diet. Only towards the end did he realize the mistake he had made. by then it was too late.

A girl i went to high school with is in remission thanks to Chemo. So WHP, go fuck yourself

[PornDiscounts-V]

Do you post this crap in your skivvies?

[TeenCat]

everyone needs operation and a chemo first, depends on the stage, but then are good ways to get rid of the rest of it out of your body. but refusing chemo is really a bad idea ... have luck ...

[Wilsy]

Dumb prick, things like this don't belong here, i bet 90% of the people here have had friends or familiy affected by this illness and you come on here with obsurd things like this, Fuck off and get a life instead of spouting your bullshit on here everyday,

[ITraffic]

wait until some poor fucker barebacks a tranny following the advice on your dumb posts and gets the hiv.

you will have that on your conscience for the rest of your life.

all the rationalizations and weed smoked in the world will never make that guilt go away.

it's time to stop pretending you have woken up and wake the fuck up for real.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by atom

my neighbor died a few years ago because of the exact same thing. Drank silver, ate some weird ass green diet. Only towards the end did he realize the mistake he had made. by then it was too late.

A girl i went to high school with is in remission thanks to Chemo. So WHP, go fuck yourself

On the other side of that coin there are plenty of people who did everything they were told by their doctor and still died.

10 years ago I was diagnosed with kidney cancer. After seeing a few close people go through hell with chemo and still dying I decided fuck it, this is my time and made the decision to do nothing. Matter of fact during that first year I ate more junk and partied hard figuring what difference did it make, I was going to die anyway. Obviously I'm still here and as far as I can tell it was a misdiagnosis, can't say for sure what the hell because I havent been back to the doctor since. But it makes me wonder how many of these cancer survivors really had cancer to begin with. Having said this, I am in no way suggesting others do the same, cancer obviously does kill people, but with the huge profits associated with the treatment (over $300,000 and in some cases over a million dollars) I do think there is a big incentive to diagnose people with cancer.

[Paul Markham]

It saved my life and the effectiveness of the chemo amazed the doctors and specialists. so you couldn't be more wrong.

You need to do a lot more research before you post lies.

[Craft]

Big pharma must be happy. Does any one here do some research on chemo ore do you just blind belive ?

I like to get my info here: thetruthaboutcancer.com/

[SilentKnight]

Fuck off & die.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Fuck off & die.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

people like you are dangerous - i said it before - if i had any say i'd ban you from here - you dont contribute anything useful anyways

a girl i knew just died this week due to cancer because she read the crap assholes like you post, refused chemotherapy and went for some bullshit "natural" therapy.

Would she had survived if she did chemo? no one knows.

but thanks to fucking assholes like you she did not do everything what is possible

And how do you know that chem therapy would give her better chances?
It is not like someone claimed "natural" ways were 100% successful.

Couldn't it be that chem had 97% fail rate and "natural" had 95% thus making her decision correct?

Not siding with op, just following your deduction..

[wehateporn]

I can see some of you getting highly emotional over this, don't worry, that's a good thing, it means you're gradually being forced to challenge your deep held beliefs about this world, while at the moment you think I'm the enemy, in a few years you'll look back and realize that threads like this were stepping stones in fixing a flawed belief system

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

And how do you know that chem therapy would give her better chances?
It is not like someone claimed "natural" ways were 100% successful.

Couldn't it be that chem had 97% fail rate and "natural" had 95% thus making her decision correct?

Not siding with op, just following your deduction..

your reading skills are not that great, are they?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

a girl i knew just died this week due to cancer because she read the crap assholes like you post, refused chemotherapy and went for some bullshit "natural" therapy.

I'm sorry for your loss, but your study is not going to pass peer-review, it's got a sample size of one and had no control. We can improve it by adding another subject, giving it a sample size of 2, by adding in my Aunt who did Chemo and died in 9 months, instead of following my advice which would have kept her alive.

[ITraffic]

lol anything you have posted is shit i have investigated far wider and deeper than you have years and years ago you dummy. the only difference as i looked at the information using my faculties of reason instead of looking for a new belief system to prop up a broken mind and spirit like you are.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

cancer is hardcore business and even if there are ways to cure some parts, it is hard to push them somewhere where have been tons of millions blew up into research. only government can do something with that rules, but pharma industry is so powerful so it is hard to order them to do something for people but for wasted money. have luck everyone

You speak a lot of truth there TC, good to see more people understanding the reality of the situation

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Yeah, i think it's about time this dumb little cunt gets banned. Or at the very least we need to get Harmon on the case.

You're getting emotional, it's all part of the healing process. If anyone wants to ban me that's no problem, as it means I don't have to spend time posting here, normally though GFY is a freedom of speech zone

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Craft

Big pharma must be happy. Does any one here do some research on chemo ore do you just blind belive ?

I like to get my info here: thetruthaboutcancer.com/

There are a fair few smart people here, you see them from time to time

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

It saved my life and the effectiveness of the chemo amazed the doctors and specialists. so you couldn't be more wrong.

You need to do a lot more research before you post lies.

You don't know if it saved your life, you believe it did, one way or the other I'm glad that you're still with us

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by Wilsy

Dumb prick, things like this don't belong here, i bet 90% of the people here have had friends or familiy affected by this illness and you come on here with obsurd things like this, Fuck off and get a life instead of spouting your bullshit on here everyday,

You need to stop believing every advert you see and instead start reading scientific papers

[AntonMG]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

I can see some of you getting highly emotional over this, don't worry, that's a good thing, it means you're gradually being forced to challenge your deep held beliefs about this world, while at the moment you think I'm the enemy, in a few years you'll look back and realize that threads like this were stepping stones in fixing a flawed belief system

I am not one to use vaccines, nor do I use anti-biotics if I can do without, I would rather spend an extra couple of days in bed and have my body fight the infection by itself.
Having said that, I don't think there's any other solution than chemio when it comes to cancer.
It might fail in most cases, still the extra time we get with loved ones is worth taking the chance.
I knew someone that gave up chemio on the advice of some dumb-ass healer guru.
The person died within a couple of months.
Would she have lasted longer with chemio, I am 100% sure of it, the healer might as well have gunned the poor girl down. I think these guys should be sued.

Don't ever come to my face and talk about better alternatives to chemio

[Bryan G]

People need to stop replying to his posts. He is an attention seeking fuck wit. This will be the last time I reply to any of his posts.

[Craft]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

There are a fair few smart people here, you see them from time to time

We are growing

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

You're getting emotional, it's all part of the healing process. If anyone wants to ban me that's no problem, as it means I don't have to spend time posting here, normally though GFY is a freedom of speech zone

No, i'm not getting emotional. It's just time for you go start spreading your bullshit on the some other forum. Get the fuck out of here. nobody likes you and nobody wants you here because you're a fucking joke so just go away.

[SilentKnight]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

No, i'm not getting emotional. It's just time for you go start spreading your bullshit on the some other forum. Get the fuck out of here. nobody likes you and nobody wants you here because you're a fucking joke so just go away.

[L-Pink]

Brother, sister, mother, father all suffered thru chemo before they died. Really suffered.

[ITraffic]

funny i know and met a guy of whp's ilk irl a year or so ago. he had written a ebook about alternative cancer cures and was even interviewed as an expert on a bunch of conspiracy and alt health internet radio shows. he even sounded ok on radio. whp is probably familiar with him.

in reality he was a chubby, plain looking and creepy dude, completely broken down, in and out of the psych ward, on anti-psychotic meds and living in his mom's apartment wandering the streets looking for cigarettes, weed and any ear who would listen to his badly delivered conspiracy spiel.

his facebook was filled with family members and friends replying to his latest conspiracy updates pleading and yelling at him to just go out and get a job already.

[wehateporn]

End-of-life chemotherapy: Does it do more harm than good? - CBS News

[ITraffic]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

funny i know and met a guy of whp's ilk irl a year or so ago. he had written a ebook about alternative cancer cures and was even interviewed as an expert on a bunch of conspiracy and alt health internet radio shows. he even sounded ok on radio. whp is probably familiar with him.

in reality he was a chubby, plain looking and creepy dude, completely broken down, in and out of the psych ward, on anti-psychotic meds and living in his mom's apartment wandering the streets looking for cigarettes, weed and any ear who would listen to his badly delivered conspiracy spiel.

his facebook was filled with family members and friends replying to his latest conspiracy updates pleading and yelling at him to just go out and get a job already.

and he wasn't a crazy mad genius like phil dick, van gogh or even daniel johnston.

the book was poorly researched and written. barely literate.

but he was promoted by people who like him, just wanted to believe for whatever broken reason.

[wehateporn]

I'm sorry for your loss, I can see you're very emotional right now, but when you've calmed down if you're from any kind of a science background maybe we can start opening your mind what's really going on with the pharmaceuticals. Destroying the immune system is not the way forward, one needs to instead harness the power of the immune system and use it as a key ally in the battle

Originally Posted by **********

FUCK YOU WEHATEPORN YOU MISERABLE FUCKING BASTARD.

I lost my Father to cancer years ago, and I lost my Mother and my Sister due to Cancer within a year of each other, and one of my friends lost his sister to cancer too.

When my Mom was diagnosed, I personally spent a lot of time trying to understand everything I could about the cancer and understand what the doctors were saying as far as possible treatments so I could help my Mom make a decision. It was made much worse thanks to PRICKS LIKE YOU by casting doubt on medical doctors and science and suggesting alternative homeopathic therapy bullshit, clouding my Mom's decision and maker her WASTE HER TIME.

People with cancer need to see doctors right away and need to take the treatment prescribed to them by real doctors who use real science. The last thing they need are delays in good judgement caused by DOUBT thanks to fucking low-lifes like you spread this fucking shit.

Fuck you, you goddam bastard. Fuck you.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

people like you are dangerous - i said it before - if i had any say i'd ban you from here - you dont contribute anything useful anyways

a girl i knew just died this week due to cancer because she read the crap assholes like you post, refused chemotherapy and went for some bullshit "natural" therapy.

Would she had survived if she did chemo? no one knows.

but thanks to fucking assholes like you she did not do everything what is possible

My uncle has stage four lung cancer. They gave him 18 months to 2 years to live.

He did chemo/radiation and will be lucky if it makes it 6 more months.

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

funny i know and met a guy of whp's ilk irl a year or so ago. he had written a ebook about alternative cancer cures and was even interviewed as an expert on a bunch of conspiracy and alt health internet radio shows. he even sounded ok on radio. whp is probably familiar with him.

in reality he was a chubby, plain looking and creepy dude, completely broken down, in and out of the psych ward, on anti-psychotic meds and living in his mom's apartment wandering the streets looking for cigarettes, weed and any ear who would listen to his badly delivered conspiracy spiel.

his facebook was filled with family members and friends replying to his latest conspiracy updates pleading and yelling at him to just go out and get a job already.

Even if your story has any truth in it, there are fucked up people who follow Big Pharma medicine too, most of the school shootings are done by those prescription meds guys

[247mg]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

people like you are dangerous - i said it before - if i had any say i'd ban you from here - you dont contribute anything useful anyways

a girl i knew just died this week due to cancer because she read the crap assholes like you post, refused chemotherapy and went for some bullshit "natural" therapy.

Would she had survived if she did chemo? no one knows.

but thanks to fucking assholes like you she did not do everything what is possible

Exactly same happen to my mom died in breast cancer bcz one asshole gave wrong information about Chemo and its side effect and she ran away from hospital and died in the hands of homeopathy!

She was diagnosed with stage 2 and fully treatable with Chemo but...

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Brother, sister, mother, father all suffered thru chemo before they died. Really suffered.

Sorry to hear that.

[EddyTheDog]

Explain to me why the 5 year survival rates have increased by a staggering amount in recent years - What's changed if it's not the treatments?..

[ITraffic]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Even if your story has any truth in it, there are fucked up people who follow Big Pharma medicine too, most of the school shootings are done by those prescription meds guys

what is not true about it? it is my lived meatspace life with personal face to face interactions not some stupid shit on a message board that i confuse to be reality.

they guy eventually did go off his meds though. he was still the same broken person who couldn't deal with the simplest of life's demands, but instead of looking in the mirror for the source of his problems and inner strength looked at this hidden hands of the illuminati to explain the prison he was in.

that is the reality of the professional "conspiracy theorist."

not some zeros and ones on a computer. but real life and blood harsh reality and truth.

[TeenCat]

every people who die for cancer is doing it for others who may survive. take it like it is, it is cancer ...

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Explain to me why the 5 year survival rates have increased by a staggering amount in recent years - What's changed if it's not the treatments?..

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies.

RESULTS:
The overall contribution of curative and adjuvant cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to be 2.3% in Australia and 2.1% in the USA.

CONCLUSION:
As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required.

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies. - PubMed - NCBI

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

what is not true about it? it is my lived meatspace life with personal face to face interactions not some stupid shit on a message board that i confuse to be reality.

they guy eventually did go off his meds though. he was still the same broken person who couldn't deal with the simplest of life's demands, but instead of looking in the mirror for the source of his problems and inner strength looked at this hidden hands of the illuminati to explain the prison he was in.

that is the reality of the professional "conspiracy theorist."

not some zeros and ones on a computer. but real life and blood harsh reality and truth.

Your study has a sample size of one, this guy was on Big Pharma meds, they are known to fuck with your head

[dyna mo]

********** has made horrible posts about my mother yet here he is acting elite and lashing out over a chemo thread's impact on his mom.



and it's truly bizzarro for gfyers to keep bumping this thread so you can keep bitching about the thread.

[ITraffic]

he was only put on meds because he had a psychotic break with reality.

he was a person broken by life and his weakness and poor choices who thought his "research" could put himself back together again.

haven't seen himself for awhile. most likely once he went off his meds he became completely broken from reality again and was hospitalized. pretty sad.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Your study has a sample size of one, this guy was on Big Pharma meds, they are known to fuck with your head

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies.

RESULTS:
The overall contribution of curative and adjuvant cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to be 2.3% in Australia and 2.1% in the USA.

CONCLUSION:
As the 5-year relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required.

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult malignancies. - PubMed - NCBI

Remember that any old shit can go on PubMed - Without looking at the paper it's useless, also the data they used was 17 years out of date - A LOT HAS HAPPENED IN THAT TIME - It also doesn't answer my question...

Explain this:



If you have got a genuine interest research Targeted Therapies - It's where the clever money is.....