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JIBCONTENT · 11-29-2015, 06:14 PM

ovh.net is allowing pirates to run free and ignore all abuse requests - looks like legal action is my next recourse.

Anyone have similar problems and want to help out or join forces?

gnawledge · 11-29-2015, 06:30 PM

I have a server and vps with OVH and they don't play. I have had some DMCA abuse emails from Chaturbate models and they email me with threats to discontinue my service.

They've always been good in that dept.

JIBCONTENT · 11-29-2015, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gnawledge

I have a server and vps with OVH and they don't play. I have had some DMCA abuse emails from Chaturbate models and they email me with threats to discontinue my service.

They've always been good in that dept.

Could you provide me with a more direct contact there that might help takedown offending sites that ignore DMCA?

AMDWarrior · 11-29-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

ovh.net is allowing pirates to run free and ignore all abuse requests - looks like legal action is my next recourse.

Anyone have similar problems and want to help out or join forces?

Lulz..cute.

sandman! · 11-29-2015, 08:49 PM

good luck suing one of the biggest hosting companies out there

gnawledge · 11-29-2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

Could you provide me with a more direct contact there that might help takedown offending sites that ignore DMCA?

Mine is [email protected]

freecartoonporn · 11-29-2015, 11:12 PM

dmca domain registrar, dmca google , dmca ad networks if they are using any.

gnawledge · 11-30-2015, 01:49 AM

If there is a legitimate complaint these companies usually take it seriously as it effects their "brand."

JIBCONTENT · 11-30-2015, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gnawledge

Mine is [email protected]

they routinely ignore all emails to this

thus taking it to the next level

directfiesta · 11-30-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

they routinely ignore all emails to this

thus taking it to the next level

.. any reason why they ignore your emails ?

they are very big and very serious ...

JIBCONTENT · 11-30-2015, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

.. any reason why they ignore your emails ?

they are very big and very serious ...

they routinely ignore abuse requests from MANY MANY of us victims of piracy..not just me (this is well known and widely discussed)

They are big? How do you think they got there?

k0nr4d · 11-30-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

ovh.net is allowing pirates to run free and ignore all abuse requests - looks like legal action is my next recourse.

Anyone have similar problems and want to help out or join forces?

You are wasting your time sueing them. They are based in france, where US law does not apply, and I've read that in france a takedown request must be in the form of a court order...

Ferus · 11-30-2015, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

They are based in france, where US law does not apply, and I've read that in france a takedown request must be in the form of a court order...

Nope....

Quote:

OVH Hosting - https://www.ovh.com

1801 McGill College Ave.
Suite 800
Montreal, Quebec H3A 2N4
Canada

TPS : 81173 6313 RT0001 - TVQ : 1217691351 TQ0001

k0nr4d · 11-30-2015, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus

Nope....

Canada also does not have to adhere to DMCA requests, as it's not part of the US - and most of OVH is in france so the server he's trying to get something taken down from isn't nessesarily in Canada...

AdultKing · 11-30-2015, 11:26 AM

Have you sent properly formatted DMCA notices ?

If you have contact me via PM, I can get content removed from OVH. My fees for helping out are reasonable. Much cheaper than a lawsuit.

LatinaCamChat · 11-30-2015, 11:42 AM

OVH is "big" because of piracy, to all the useless GFY faggots out there. Depositfiles + OVH = strongly linked. The hundreds of millions of dollars made by Depositfiles was very likely directly linked to OVH's now huge data centers.

AdultKing · 11-30-2015, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LatinaCamChat

OVH is "big" because of piracy, to all the useless GFY faggots out there. Depositfiles + OVH = strongly linked. The hundreds of millions of dollars made by Depositfiles was very likely directly linked to OVH's now huge data centers.

You're wrong.

j3rkules · 11-30-2015, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

If you have contact me via PM, I can get content removed from OVH. My fees for helping out are reasonable. Much cheaper than a lawsuit.

He is your man.

LatinaCamChat · 11-30-2015, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

You're wrong.

OVH was a weird random obscure host at least on frontend with horrible equipment but large bandwidth plans offered (40tb/etc years ago) noticed them when sending DMCA to depositfiles

Years later, one of the bigger hosting companies talked about

They might not be directly related but OVH has and still does benefit hugely from piracy/file lockers

AntonMG · 11-30-2015, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferus

Nope....
OVH Hosting - https://www.ovh.com

1801 McGill College Ave.
Suite 800
Montreal, Quebec H3A 2N4
Canada

TPS : 81173 6313 RT0001 - TVQ : 1217691351 TQ0001

They are indeed headquartered in France.
The Montreal office is just here to have a couple of admins and reps because they opened a big data center in Quebec (water for server cooling is dirt cheap here).
I'm pretty sure you would have to sue the French office if you take any legal action.

jscott · 12-01-2015, 12:41 AM

OVH has also totally ignored all of my DMCA abuse requests about the site MRSTIFF.com (stealing content with no care in the world and igoring DMCA's)

k0nr4d · 12-01-2015, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott

OVH has also totally ignored all of my DMCA abuse requests about the site MRSTIFF.com (stealing content with no care in the world and igoring DMCA's)

You can't send a DMCA request to a french host, nor anythign other then an American host. If they do anything about it, it's strictly voluntary. Europe has EUCD (European Union Copyright Directive), so the takedown procedure is different here. Sending DMCA to european host is like some guy in UAE sending your US host a takedown notification because porn is illegal in UAE

jscott · 12-01-2015, 01:04 AM

Ok understood Konrad, they do claim they are not under USA jurisdiction, but they still are mentioning DMCA is required, i dont know if they intentionally add those fucked up characters in there to just make like jibberish more or what

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DMCA Notice & Takedown Policy and Procedures

We respect the intellectual property of others, and we anticipate that the sites we index do the same. As part of Our effort to assist in the protection of intellectual property rights, this website (?SITE?), although not operating under the jurisdiction of the USA, therefore voluntarily chooses to comply with the Notice and Takedown requirements of 17 U.S.C. § 512 of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (?DMCA?). Under that statute, We qualify as a ?Service Provider.? Specifically, the SITE functions as an information location tool under 17 U.S.C. § 512(d) in that it merely refers, embeds or links content found on third-party websites not under Our control. Under the DMCA, We are entitled to assert certain protections from claims of copyright infringement, commonly referred to as the ?safe harbor? provisions. We therefore adopt the following Notice and Takedown Policy relating to claims of copyright infringement concerning content linked to or embedded by the SITE.

Notice of Claimed Infringement

If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please provide us with the following information:

(a) an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest;

(b) description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed;

(c) description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the SITE (preferably including specific url?s associated with the material);

(d) your address, telephone number, and email address;

(e) a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and,

(f) a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner?s behalf.

Please refer to How to report copyright infringement for instructions on submitting your DMCA notice.

Abuse Notification: Abusing the DMCA Notice procedures set forth above, or misrepresenting facts in a DMCA Notice or Counter-notification, can result in legal liability for damages, court costs and attorneys? fees under U.S. federal law. See; 17 U.S.C. § 512(f). These Notice and Takedown Procedures only apply to claims of copyright infringement by copyright holders and their agents ? not to any other kind of abuse, infringement or legal claim. We will investigate and take action against anyone abusing the DMCA notification or counter-notification procedure. Please ensure that you meet all of the legal qualifications before submitting a DMCA Notice.

Take Down Procedure

The SITE implements the following ?notification and takedown? procedure upon receipt of any notification of claimed copyright infringement. The SITE reserves the right at any time to disable access to any Materials claimed to be infringing or based on facts or circumstances from which infringing activity is apparent. As an information location tool service provider, ?disabling of access? to material identified in a DMCA Notice shall typically mean that We remove the link to or embed code of the allegedly infringing content found on a third party?s website, along with any affiliated linking or referential materials. It is the firm policy of the SITE to terminate the account of repeat copyright infringers, when appropriate, and the SITE will act expeditiously to disable access to all material that infringes on another?s copyright, according to the procedure set forth in 17 U.S.C. §512. The SITE?s DMCA Notice Procedures are set forth in the preceding paragraph. If the notice does not comply with §512 of the DMCA, but does comply with three requirements for identifying sites that are infringing according to §512 of the DMCA, the SITE shall attempt to contact or take other reasonable steps to contact the complaining party to help that party comply with the notice requirements. When we receive a valid notice, the SITE will expeditiously disable access to the infringing material.

k0nr4d · 12-01-2015, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jscott

Ok understood Konrad, they do claim they are not under USA jurisdiction, but they still are mentioning DMCA is required, i dont know if they intentionally add those fucked up characters in there to just make like jibberish more or what

Right, but they are writing that they are doing so voluntarily, so they could ignore or delay response to the DMCA too. I'm not saying it's right that they ignore it or whatever, i'm just saying that I'm not sure if he would have a legal case against them for not adhering to his DMCA requests that they are not bound to. Taking it to court they would get a court order to remove the content for sure, but they wouldn't likely get punished for not voluntarily doing so.

jscott · 12-01-2015, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Right, but they are writing that they are doing so voluntarily, so they could ignore or delay response to the DMCA too. I'm not saying it's right that they ignore it or whatever, i'm just saying that I'm not sure if he would have a legal case against them for not adhering to his DMCA requests that they are not bound to.

Ya i get what you mean man, kinda like a sponsor saying "we have the right to refuse any affiliate at any time" etc etc

Sucks though

Gonna research how to work with that EUCD.

anexsia · 12-01-2015, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

ovh.net is allowing pirates to run free and ignore all abuse requests - looks like legal action is my next recourse.

Anyone have similar problems and want to help out or join forces?

OVH does not ignore abuse notices, why don't you just call them up? Whenever I call OVH they have someone answer on the 1st or 2nd ring.

You're talking about a very large company that does not sell servers in the US as of yet so good luck with your legal action. You're better off sending them properly formatted abuse notices instead of threatening them which will get you no where.

jscott · 12-01-2015, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

You're better off sending them properly formatted abuse notices instead of threatening them which will get you no where.

Not sure who you're talking to exactly, but I have sent them properly formatted DMCA notices. If you mean they'll remove contents out of "good will" for doing that, then you're very wrong.

1st. I emailed the website owner (mrstiff) asking nicely.
(no reply)

2nd. I go thru on their abuse rules, they even have an email [email protected]
(no reply)

3rd. I asked OVH if they can help me
(no reply)

4th. I sent properly formatted DMCA to OVH
(no reply)

Of course as already said in this thread, they are not covered by USA DMCA law, but to say they are very compliant on content removal is just insane.

pornmasta · 12-01-2015, 06:46 AM

try here:
https://forum.ovh.com/

JIBCONTENT · 12-01-2015, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by anexsia

OVH does not ignore abuse notices, why don't you just call them up? Whenever I call OVH they have someone answer on the 1st or 2nd ring.

You're talking about a very large company that does not sell servers in the US as of yet so good luck with your legal action. You're better off sending them properly formatted abuse notices instead of threatening them which will get you no where.

I have called them - they are very polite and nice - then PROMPTLY ignore all abuse and take down requests.

Looks like they are profiting big by being the safe haven for pirates and are protecting their bread and butter.

AdultKing · 12-01-2015, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LatinaCamChat

OVH was a weird random obscure host at least on frontend with horrible equipment but large bandwidth plans offered (40tb/etc years ago) noticed them when sending DMCA to depositfiles

Years later, one of the bigger hosting companies talked about

They might not be directly related but OVH has and still does benefit hugely from piracy/file lockers

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott

OVH has also totally ignored all of my DMCA abuse requests about the site MRSTIFF.com (stealing content with no care in the world and igoring DMCA's)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

I have called them - they are very polite and nice - then PROMPTLY ignore all abuse and take down requests.

Looks like they are profiting big by being the safe haven for pirates and are protecting their bread and butter.

I have had a 100% success rate in the removal of content from any website hosted at OVH.

First you need a properly formatted DMCA notice.

Second, if that doesn't work you need a DMCA agent or Copyright Advocate to do it for you.

The three I recommend are

Takedown Piracy | The leading name in content protection services
Remove Your Content
http://battleshipstance.com/

Third, if all else fails then I can step in. I can have the offending content removed, usually within 2 - 3 hours on average. You can contact me via PM or go to Copy Control and leave your name, email and a brief message.

If you have not engaged a DMCA agent or if you have not sent OVH a properly formatted DMCA notice to the right place then I will not be able to help you.

I work for an hourly rate which is $165 AUD ( $120 US at current exchange rates). As a general guide, if you pass on 50 properly formatted DMCA notices to me it would typically take me 3 hours to deal with them all.

11-29-2015, 06:14 PM	#1
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