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PR_Glen · 11-30-2015, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

.. and who is responsible for that failure .... try hard...

humans..

2MuchMark · 11-30-2015, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you changed your post.

you get Sly's point, right?

clean up your own side of the street first, before you start concerning yourself with the neighbor's side of the street.

Okee-Dokee Mr. Pokee.

dyna mo · 11-30-2015, 02:22 PM

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Okee-Dokee Mr. Pokee.

i'm sure you've got some Trump threads to start.

easy breezy lemon squeezee

2MuchMark · 11-30-2015, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

my mind is made up that actions should precede throwing money.

You decided for yourself that he's throwing money away. This is not true. He's pledged to donate, just like other countries have pledged to donate. You're basing second opinion on your first opinion.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

look, i get it, we're all (developed nations) are supposed to chip-n cash to pay for green infrastructure in the 3rd world. we won't reach the goal if that doesn't happen is the logic, sure, fine.

I don't understand the details and its fair to say that you don't either. I think its fair to say that under developed countries pollute much more than developed countries because their methods are inefficient. Maybe, I'm just guessing. So maybe if we look at the problem as a global problem, pledging to help, helps. Maybe.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

but as you point out, Canada's action on curbing global warming has been abysmal/non-existent, including reneging on the kyoto protocol.

True. But then again, Trudeau is just getting started, and, don't forget, the COP21 Paris Climate Change conference is going on right now. And as I stated earlier, Harper really didn't help Canada's greennesss at all.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

But instead of trudeau announcing that Canada is back and here's what we're doing to curb OUR emissions, he announces you're just gonna give billions to some other countries and hope they curb THEIR emissions

Not true. He already announced his plan:

https://www.liberal.ca/files/2015/08...nd-economy.pdf

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's just like the very first thing he did upon entering the office was call BO and renege on Canada's commitment to eradicating isis.

it all seems very.........libtard.

Not true either. He's withdrawing the planes, but stepping up training of troops. This was announced before he was elected.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pari...-g20-1.3320526

Controversial? Sure I'll give you that, but you're dismissing him on just about everything without giving him credit where due.

dyna mo · 11-30-2015, 02:41 PM

i can't state it any better than how MetaMan already did:

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

Trudeau's first order of business:
1. bring in as many syrian refugees rushed as possible
2. give 2.6 billion dollars away to 3rd world countries
3. pull out war planes from syria

i can't wait for what's next! maybe if he has time he can get to some Canadian issues.

j3rkules · 11-30-2015, 02:54 PM

More talk and no action. Sounds like business as usual...

Grapesoda · 11-30-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

?Canada is back and ready to play its part in combating climate change.."

Trudeau pledges $2.6B to developing nations to fight climate change - National | Globalnews.ca

YEAH Canada!!!!!! Canada has cleaned out all the pedophiles, welfare cheats, murder and all other capital crimes... why else would they have funds to throw away in 3rd world countries???

$5 submissions · 11-30-2015, 04:33 PM

I am an American living in a 3rd world country and some of the local shitbag corrupt politicians here can't wait to 'do their part to fight global warming.'

Remember, kids, the 'developed world' has poured TRILLIONS into Third World aid... What has been the results?

If you want real change and you're SERIOUS about helping people in the developing country, support FREE TRADE and IMPOSE SANCTIONS on countries ruled by monopolist/oligarchies.

Now, I'm not saying the US isn't run by an oligarchy but the oligarchies in the 3rd world are way worse and need to be dialed back so their people won't view EMIGRATION as the ONLY SOLUTION to their problems.

slapass · 11-30-2015, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I replaced every lightbulb in my house with these bad boys: GE LED BR30 Indoor Floodlight Bulb (2 pk.) - Energy Star Certified - - Amazon.com

You could buy 250 million of these suckers for $2.5B.

So here's what you do. You break out the big bad calculator and you figure out how many regular lightbulbs you can replace in the country. Then you figure out how much energy those mean little pricks suck. Then you replace all of those pricks with these nice guys and you have your lightbulb energy use down to 15-20% of what it originally was!

Now that's impact!

"First World" countries can't "take care" of "Third World" countries until we take care of ourselves. Call it insensitive, mean, whatever you want, but when the top 20 energy sucking countries in the world are all major powers, there is absolutely no reason to be worrying about some sub-Saharan country that is barely a blip on the energy map.

Focus on the big targets for a real, actual impact. Anyone that TRULY appreciates the environment should be pissed off about these half measures and push for changes that actually make a difference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ty_consumption

I see no "Third World" countries.

Change a lightbulb.

I did the same thing. Then I bought $200 worth and gave them to people with limited budgets. I then did $800 worth of bulbs in all my apartment buildings. That is over 300 light bulbs system wide. The savings are cool % wise but pretty small as electricity is super cheap. We were already doing CFL so it was 14w to 9w. Saving around $100/month on that and ours burn 24/7.
Reduced water usage 20% and I think that had a bigger impact on our energy usage then the bulbs. Low flow shower heads (Niagra 2 GPM), low water use flappers and 1.5 GPM aerators.
All the business people i talk to don't see electricity as their big number. CFL has been around a while now so most commercial systems use them. The easy savings have seen already.

EonBlue · 11-30-2015, 05:06 PM

Anyone remember how Obama was going to save the world by tackling "climate change"?

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Obama, Nov 2008:
?This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.?

By his own admission it looks like his fairy tales and pixie dust didn't accomplish much:

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Obama, Nov 2015:
COP21: Obama on risk of ?submerged countries, abandoned cities.?

Billions spent, nothing accomplished. It will be the same for Turdeau.

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$5 submissions · 11-30-2015, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue

Anyone remember how Obama was going to save the world by tackling "climate change"?

By his own admission it looks like his fairy tales and pixie dust didn't accomplish much:

Billions spent, nothing accomplished. It will be the same for Turdeau.

.

Trudeau is just the latest of a LONG LINE OF LIBERALS who pour billions into quixotic (idiotic?) causes and have very little to show for it...

Remember the TRILLIONS spent by the global community on Africa and Asia?

Most of those countries remained poor (but their leaders got RICHER though) but some did become richer.

How?

Not through aid but through MARKET REFORMS.

SilentKnight · 11-30-2015, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Trudeau is just the latest of a LONG LINE OF LIBERALS who pour billions into quixotic (idiotic?) causes and have very little to show for it...

One only has to look at the Ontario provincial Libtard party and the billions they've flushed down the toilet with their neverending scandals. E-health, ornge air ambulance, the Oakville power plants. The list goes on.

Provincial...federal - it's all the same.

$5 submissions · 11-30-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

One only has to look at the Ontario provincial Libtard party and the billions they've flushed down the toilet with their neverending scandals. E-health, ornge air ambulance, the Oakville power plants. The list goes on.

Provincial...federal - it's all the same.

Good point

mineistaken · 11-30-2015, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

I replaced every lightbulb in my house with these bad boys: GE LED BR30 Indoor Floodlight Bulb (2 pk.) - Energy Star Certified - - Amazon.com

You could buy 250 million of these suckers for $2.5B.

So here's what you do. You break out the big bad calculator and you figure out how many regular lightbulbs you can replace in the country. Then you figure out how much energy those mean little pricks suck. Then you replace all of those pricks with these nice guys and you have your lightbulb energy use down to 15-20% of what it originally was!

Now that's impact!

"First World" countries can't "take care" of "Third World" countries until we take care of ourselves. Call it insensitive, mean, whatever you want, but when the top 20 energy sucking countries in the world are all major powers, there is absolutely no reason to be worrying about some sub-Saharan country that is barely a blip on the energy map.

Focus on the big targets for a real, actual impact. Anyone that TRULY appreciates the environment should be pissed off about these half measures and push for changes that actually make a difference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ty_consumption

I see no "Third World" countries.

Change a lightbulb.

But trying to improve poor countries sound much more cool and "liberal".

mineistaken · 11-30-2015, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

LOL translation $2.6 billion will be laundered through "developing nations" with little to no oversight and when accounting for the $2.6 billion comes into play no one will have answers.

mineistaken · 11-30-2015, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Libtard party

Plague of any society

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