Trump is right

[Vendzilla]

We should block Muslims from coming in the country till the government can better screen them. They just caught two of the terrorist that were involved in the Paris shooting in a refugee shelter!

Paris attacks: Austria arrests two suspects at refugee shelter - BBC News

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

We should block Muslims from coming in the country till the government can better screen them. They just caught two of the terrorist that were involved in the Paris shooting in a refugee shelter!

Paris attacks: Austria arrests two suspects at refugee shelter - BBC News

ok - then terrorists just won't claim muslim as their religion when trying to come here. what's stopping them? refugees typically have very little paperwork to back up who they claim to be.

[Sly]

I found this statement alarming regarding a missed opportunity to arrest one of the original attackers:

However, police could not raid the building until the morning of 16 November due to laws banning such searches between 21:00 and 05:00, Mr Geens was quoted as saying by Dutch language daily Het Laatste Nieuws.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

ok - then terrorists just won't claim muslim as their religion when trying to come here. what's stopping them? refugees typically have very little paperwork to back up who they claim to be.

Stop being sensible, it has no place in a thread about Trump.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

ok - then terrorists just won't claim muslim as their religion when trying to come here. what's stopping them? refugees typically have very little paperwork to back up who they claim to be.

Just block everyone from terrorist backing countries

[Vendzilla]

Take into account they raided 3 Mosques in Paris and shut them down when they found a stash of guns and explosives

[SAMANTAmax]

I support his statement 100%, enough of them.

[poncabare]

Crazy that France is tougher and not being pc more than us

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Just block everyone from terrorist backing countries

you should note that most of the terrorists involved in the paris attacks were born in france and belgium.

[vegasbobby]

the peaceful ones.








Muslims (Refugees) riot in Paris


Beat the Dirty Jewâ?�: Muslims in Paris

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you should note that most of the terrorists involved in the paris attacks were born in france and belgium.

So expand it, or do you think we are safe from the San Bernardino attack happening again?

I do know that Muslims are allowed to lie to westerners about if they're Muslim, but something has to be done, just letting them in our country is madness.

Make them eat Bacon, if they refuse, well?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So expand it, or do you think we are safe from the San Bernardino attack happening again?

I do know that Muslims are allowed to lie to westerners about if they're Muslim, but something has to be done, just letting them in our country is madness.

Make them eat Bacon, if they refuse, well?

well thats why its called terrorism because its very hard to protect from it completely. any person can commit a horrible act of violence at any given time to anyone. its part of the risk of living in a 'free society'.

[vegasbobby]

Play the Beatles song and watch the Muslims riot in Paris, below.


So peaceful so LOVING......

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So expand it, or do you think we are safe from the San Bernardino attack happening again?

I do know that Muslims are allowed to lie to westerners about if they're Muslim, but something has to be done, just letting them in our country is madness.

Make them eat Bacon, if they refuse, well?

Wasn't the male attacker in the USA born in America?

[mineistaken]

Of course he was. Only libbies have a problem with that.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Wasn't the male attacker in the USA born in America?

The point is about stopping as many of them as possible, not all of them, which is not possible.

[Sarn]

>Trump is right
isis make ideological work among Muslim US(eu,ru... etc) citizens.
trump help for isis make recruiting new shahid(martyrs for islam) or jihadists.
it is not effective to make such provocative statements.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

The point is about stopping as many of them as possible, not all of them, which is not possible.

You should be more worried about being shot by a red neck than a Muslim. Stop living in fear and get on with your life.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Sarn

>Trump is right
isis make ideological work among Muslim US(eu,ru... etc) citizens.
trump help for isis make recruiting new shahid(martyrs for islam) or jihadists.
it is not effective to make such provocative statements.

if people join or sympathize with isis because of what some people say or think about muslims then they were already 99% there anyways. that is not a normal reaction for someone who isn't already crazy/stupid/just looking for an excuse..

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

You should be more worried about being shot by a red neck than a Muslim. Stop living in fear and get on with your life.

I never hear much about mass shootings taking place where "rednecks" live (the South).
Always seem to be taking place in more "liberal" states.

[ITraffic]

don't you brag about your association with organized crime syndicates like the hells angels?

maybe the government should spend more time and resources on the real threats within their midst, like you and your associates.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I never hear much about mass shootings taking place where "rednecks" live (the South).
Always seem to be taking place in more "liberal" states.

Wasn't referring to mass shootings. However now that you mention it yes add that to the equation and your chance of being shot by an American far out weights your chance of being shot by a Muslim terrorist.

[baggg]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you should note that most of the terrorists involved in the paris attacks were born in france and belgium.

Oh so you are saying that the ones already here did not integrate at all?Thanks, we all know this already.

[ITraffic]

Mass shootings: Only five states spared from spate of shooting sprees in the US, tracking website says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Only five states spared from spate of shooting sprees in the US, tracking website says

Hawaii, New Hampshire, North Dakota, West Virginia and Wyoming alone were spared such macabre fate.

[CamTraffic]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

We should block Muslims from coming in the country till the government can better screen them. They just caught two of the terrorist that were involved in the Paris shooting in a refugee shelter!

Paris attacks: Austria arrests two suspects at refugee shelter - BBC News

Because it's so much more important than the other issues.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Wasn't referring to mass shootings. However now that you mention it yes add that to the equation and your chance of being shot by an American far out weights your chance of being shot by a Muslim terrorist.

You got that right.
Which is why I don't know of anyone who is in "fear" of that. Do you?
I think politicians (including Hillary who gave a speech a day ago saying that she "understands our fear") and the media keep saying we are all in "fear"...and the President just said we shouldn't "give in to our fear", but reality is...nobody is really scared.

Makes for good ratings for the news channels I suppose.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Wasn't the male attacker in the USA born in America?

Yes, but his wife wasn't.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You got that right.
Which is why I don't know of anyone who is in "fear" of that. Do you?
I think politicians (including Hillary who gave a speech a day ago saying that she "understands our fear") and the media keep saying we are all in "fear"...and the President just said we shouldn't "give in to our fear", but reality is...nobody is really scared.

Makes for good ratings for the news channels I suppose.

I just stay away from Gun Free Zones, those places the liberals put up for safety

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

Mass shootings: Only five states spared from spate of shooting sprees in the US, tracking website says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Only five states spared from spate of shooting sprees in the US, tracking website says

Hawaii, New Hampshire, North Dakota, West Virginia and Wyoming alone were spared such macabre fate.

That story doesn't explain itself.

When did the "mass shooting" take place in Georgia? Or Alabama? Or South Carolina?
Are they counting "mass shootings" that may have taken place in the 1800's? WTF?

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

if people join or sympathize with isis because of what some people say or think about muslims then they were already 99% there anyways. that is not a normal reaction for someone who isn't already crazy/stupid/just looking for an excuse..

Religious fanatics are not normal people. suicide bombers too...
but motivation for action such people can be after psychological trauma, such as a scandal at work such as in san Bernardino. Trump expressed this to the whole world, I think his speechwriters made a mistake.

[Robbie]

Okay found it...it was just the other day in Georgia. Not really a "mass shooting" but still pretty bad:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...united-states/

[baggg]

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Because it's so much more important than the other issues.

[Robbie]

And here's the Alabama one from 2009:
At least 10 dead in two-town Alabama shooting spree - CNN.com

I wish those stories would explain themselves like this instead of just saying something like "only 5 states spared of mass shooting".

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by baggg

Oh so you are saying that the ones already here did not integrate at all?Thanks, we all know this already.

actually they seemed to be "regular people" who were recruited into radical islam. a few years before the paris attacks they weren't even "active" muslims. they were drinking and partying, having sex, etc. they seem to target young people who are confused about their identity and have nothing much going for them.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So expand it, or do you think we are safe from the San Bernardino attack happening again?

I do know that Muslims are allowed to lie to westerners about if they're Muslim, but something has to be done, just letting them in our country is madness.

Make them eat Bacon, if they refuse, well?

So long as his supporters think like this. He will do well.

[dyna mo]

Why can't we just start screening them better? Is there some sort of Arab descrambler device the government needs?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

You should be more worried about being shot by a red neck than a Muslim. Stop living in fear and get on with your life.

I'm born and raised redneck. Just what the fuck are you yapping about?

[dyna mo]

100 million guns sold during the Obama gun era, gun sales have tripled in the last few years with PLENTY of democrat households polling as owning guns.

[vegasbobby]

Ohhh...ok... tell them that....

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Robbie

You got that right.
Which is why I don't know of anyone who is in "fear" of that. Do you?
I think politicians (including Hillary who gave a speech a day ago saying that she "understands our fear") and the media keep saying we are all in "fear"...and the President just said we shouldn't "give in to our fear", but reality is...nobody is really scared.

Makes for good ratings for the news channels I suppose.

I think right now, afraid of ordinary peaceful Muslims

[dyna mo]

I actually have seen 1 dude in fear of the terrorist. It was on the boardwalk at Venice Beach and he was loudly talking to himself about terrorists in black helicopters while he paced back and forth

[baggg]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

actually they seemed to be "regular people" who were recruited into radical islam. a few years before the paris attacks they weren't even "active" muslims. they were drinking and partying, having sex, etc. they seem to target young people who are confused about their identity and have nothing much going for them.

Sooooooo regular people who turned to islam and started to blow shit up?
You are not helping

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Because it's so much more important than the other issues.

I read an article yesterday that said you are a thousand times more likely to be shot by accident by a toddler than you are to be killed in a terrorist attack.

[Paul Markham]

Gun violence in America, in 17 maps and charts - Vox



A Guide to Mass Shootings in America | Mother Jones

Gun owners don't get worried. So long as the NRA own your politicians, nothing will change.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

Mass shootings: Only five states spared from spate of shooting sprees in the US, tracking website says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Only five states spared from spate of shooting sprees in the US, tracking website says

Hawaii, New Hampshire, North Dakota, West Virginia and Wyoming alone were spared such macabre fate.

Some where along the line we have lowered the bar of news reporting while making it oh so much easier to find information. Clearly someone didn't fact check anything...

Eight people shot dead in Honolulu:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_murders

[ITraffic]

Originally Posted by Robbie

That story doesn't explain itself.

When did the "mass shooting" take place in Georgia? Or Alabama? Or South Carolina?
Are they counting "mass shootings" that may have taken place in the 1800's? WTF?

the internet is based upon links. there are links within the text then when you click them give more information.

Mass Shootings in 2015 - Mass Shooting Tracker

[Rochard]

Just re-read the article... I didn't see this was only "this month" since December 2nd, 2015. So... Opps.

But this brings up a valid point that kills me... Trump and all of the Republicans are making such a big deal about Muslims entering the country, yet hundreds of people have died from mass shootings in the past two weeks. Clearly arming the population hasn't changed a thing - Millions of firearms floating around in the public and yet still hundreds of people get shot and killed every month.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by ITraffic

the internet is based upon links. there are links within the text then when you click them give more information.

Mass Shootings in 2015 - Mass Shooting Tracker

Got it.

By the way...what's the criteria for a "mass shooting"? More than 2 people?
Some of those "mass shootings" don't seem very "mass".

I'm not trying to be flippant about it. But when I think of "mass shooting", I'm thinking that at least 7 or 8 people were shot.
Looks like that site has put the number at "4" to be proclaimed as a "mass shooting".

Is that pretty much the agreed on number? And if so, should it be called a "mass shooting"?

[Atticus]

I love how people will spend countless hours defending the 2nd amendment in post after post, then turn around and take a giant piss on the first.

Apparently to conservatives the Constitution is similar to the Bible. Just pick and choose the parts that fit your views.

[dyna mo]

it's weird that markham thinks Americans need a guns fatality powerpoint presentation.

it's weird because i go through life 24/7/365 in the USA without 1 single fuck given about getting killed by a gun, regardless of a map. and so does every American I know.