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Old 12-23-2015, 10:24 AM   #1
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Trump bans Disney bound Muslim family from entering the USA.

Wait, no that was Obama.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/23/u-s-keeps-muslim-family-headed-to-disneyland-out-of-the-country/
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:32 AM   #2
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That racist bastard! He is just like HITLER!!! He is spreading FEAR!

No wait...it's President Obama that did it.
I take back everything I said.
This was obviously a genius move that was carefully thought out and made out of love.
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Intel clearly picked up chatter about a threat against Disney.. Just a few days ago the media was reporting about increased/new security measures at Disney but said there was no specific threat. And now this. Bullshit. Fear would hurt attendance at the House of Mouse and we can't have that. $$$
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Exactly! The Federal Govt.'s "intel" has been so on target every time!
Thank you kind and wonderful Pres. Obama!
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That racist bastard! He is just like HITLER!!! He is spreading FEAR!
I already posted this.... but sure, its reminiscent of the FEAR trade that got bad people into power in decades past.

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...isneyland.html

Anyway, we can easily test if was an American action or some other action, just make it audible.

Americans usually pronounce them as "MUZZ-LIMBS" Other people say "MOOS-LIMS"
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Exactly! The Federal Govt.'s "intel" has been so on target every time!
Thank you kind and wonderful Pres. Obama!
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...vacation in Crawford, Bush receives a Presidential Daily Briefing warning, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US." FBI highlights Al Qaeda activities consistent with hijacking preparations, as well as surveillance of federal buildings. [Date the public knew: 5/18/02]

CIA officer flies to Crawford to call Bush's attention to document. Bush replies, "All right, you've covered your ass now." [Date the public knew: 6/20/06]
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Old 12-23-2015, 10:56 AM   #9
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why stop with W? you & mother jones ignore that 2003 does not happen without the events of 2001, when a democrat president took blow jobs from the intern for 2 years while a terror group declared war on USA.

that sounds familiar. but hey, at least slick willy didnt let them grow into a billion dollar quasi-state.
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Our "intel" has been wrong so many times.

And it completely misses when something actually IS going to happen (the Boston marathon bombing, San Bernadino)
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dodge and deflect.


go on, take the hit amigo. this ban happened under BO policy, not Trump.
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Our "intel" has been wrong so many times.

And it completely misses when something actually IS going to happen (the Boston marathon bombing, San Bernadino)
Damn right. And the high profile ones they've stopped were created/pushed/led by them.

You all need to watch The Newburgh Sting.
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Damn right. And the high profile ones they've stopped were created/pushed/led by them.

You all need to watch The Newburgh Sting.
Yep, the ONLY "terrorist threats" the govt. has "stopped" have been the ones that the FBI approached people undercover and talked them into doing it. Then the FBI supplies them with a fake "bomb" and then arrests them.
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The US is stopping British citizens going on holiday -- we can't look the other way | Stella Creasy | Opinion | The Guardian
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What is the one thing these stories have in common? Religion. A growing number of UK Muslim citizens say they have been similarly treated. This raises troubling questions well beyond how to diffuse the heartache of small children unable to meet Elsa from Frozen. Indeed, if the US thinks it has good grounds for stopping people going there, we cannot be contented that the UK does not take any action to follow this up here.
I am not sure if this is a UK MP's rant or the real deal of visitors visas denied without real cause. Had they visited countries on the 'ban' list?

**added 'Labour’s Stella Creasy writes to PM after party of 11 heading to Disneyland were told by American officials at Gatwick they could not go"

No point in ranting back and forth without all the facts.
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dodge and deflect.


go on, take the hit amigo. this ban happened under BO policy, not Trump.

I was commenting on Robbie's post, not yours.

As for "deflecting". You put Obama's name in the title of this post even though the story you linked to doesn't even mention his name.

Typical rightie.
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I am not sure if this is a UK MP's rant or the real deal of visitors visas denied without real cause. Had they visited countries on the 'ban' list?

No point in ranting back and forth without all the facts.
There is no telling anymore. The govt.'s of the world are in disarray over this situation.

The point of Dynamo's post was to show the hypocrisy of the Obama Administration and the DNC during the election year.

They are vilifying Trump and calling him a fear-monger while they do the exact same thing in a different way and use different terms to define it.

Sheer hypocrisy and typical of politicians.
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and how did anyone know what religion they are?
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and how did anyone know what religion they are?
I think he was wearing a yellow star.. Nevermind I'm thinking of another religious group.
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and how did anyone know what religion they are?
The guys name MIGHT have been a give-away if you were being observant:
Mohammad Tariq Mahmood

Probably not a Chinese guy. lol
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The guys name MIGHT have been a give-away if you were being observant:
Mohammad Tariq Mahmood

Probably not a Chinese guy. lol
With that name. 100% god fearing christian. for sure.
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I was commenting on Robbie's post, not yours.

As for "deflecting". You put Obama's name in the title of this post even though the story you linked to doesn't even mention his name.

Typical rightie.
I know you were commenting on Robbie's topic and not the topic of this thread. that was my point. and that's why i included BO in the title. the topic is about how this happened under BO policy, not Trump policy. i know it's all fun and games for libs to point at Trump and call him names and high 5 over how crazy he is and the shit that he spews.

but when BO policy actually does in FACT ban a muslim family, liberals like yourself seize opportunities like pointing to Bush and Iraq, because, you know, Robbie.
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OK, according to the guys here from the UK the UK is full of radical Muslims that are a menace to the western world.

So you[s] cry out HYPOCRISY! based on a UK politician's accusation.

This could very well be a visa vetting based on facts. Assumptions by a UK politician do not prove hypocrisy or wilful religious bias in US visa applications.

Visa control is different between the USA and the UK -- BTW.
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Good, keep those camel jockeys out. And they were not British citizens "their authorisation to travel had been cancelled". Build your own Disneyland.
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Good, keep those camel jockeys out. And they were not British citizens "their authorisation to travel had been cancelled". Build your own Disneyland.
not according to that article or are we just making up shit while we go now?

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What is the one thing these stories have in common? Religion. A growing number of UK Muslim citizens say they have been similarly treated. This raises troubling questions well beyond how to diffuse the heartache of small children unable to meet Elsa from Frozen. Indeed, if the US thinks it has good grounds for stopping people going there, we cannot be contented that the UK does not take any action to follow this up here.
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It is not just the family themselves who are livid. The vacuum created by a refusal to provide any context for these decisions is fuelling resentment and debate. Online and offline discussions reverberate with the growing fear that UK Muslims are being “trumped” – that widespread condemnation of Donald Trump’s call for no Muslim to be allowed into America contrasts with what is going on in practice. Faced with such claims, our concern should be to offer more than a critique of American Republican primary political positioning. Because this isn’t happening in the US. It’s happening on British soil, at our airports and involving our citizens and challenging their sense of place in our society too.
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Just a week ago, parliamentarians were united in agreement that Trump’s views were abhorrent. Now we should do more than shrug our shoulders at secretive American security policies that leave our constituents in such limbo. If the embassy won’t answer to the family’s MP, it should answer to their prime minister and he to us about what he is doing to ensure that no British citizen is being discriminated against for their faith on our shores.
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Unless you have some information contrary -- they were all alleged British Citizens ...
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Probably not a Chinese guy. lol
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They were doing them a favor, Disneyland sucks.
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not according to that article or are we just making up shit while we go now?



Unless you have some information contrary -- they were all alleged British Citizens ...
British citizens do not need travel documents to visit US and they repeatedly mention "travel authorizations".
So whats the problem here? Its not like they turned away every Muslim on this flight. Somehow one or more of them got on "no flight list". Britain is filled with radical Muslims. Keep those assholes out. I'm sure Pakistan has its own version of Disney. Take your nine kids there.
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and how did anyone know what religion they are?
They had novelty shirts that said "I'd rather be beheading someone."
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Disneyland sucks.
I like you because your avatar makes George Carlin's voice sound in my head as I read your posts...but you sure are sounding kinda grump and miserable.
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sounds like DHS doing what they are supposed to do..

A DHS source tells CBS News that two brothers in this group "hit positive for terror checks." One of the brothers was refused entry into Israel two years ago, and his teenage son's Facebook account has links to terrorist websites, the source said.


I'm sorry but one of them had already been denied entry to Iseral for the same reasons. They had links to terrorist groups even on their Facebook profiles..

How dumb can you be?
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I like you because your avatar makes George Carlin's voice sound in my head as I read your posts...but you sure are sounding kinda grump and miserable.
No worries. They're not going to shut down Disneyland because of my opinion, you will be able to enjoy it for many years to come.
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British citizens do not need travel documents to visit US and they repeatedly mention "travel authorizations".
So whats the problem here? Its not like they turned away every Muslim on this flight. Somehow one or more of them got on "no flight list". Britain is filled with radical Muslims. Keep those assholes out. I'm sure Pakistan has its own version of Disney. Take your nine kids there.
You don't read the news I guess ...
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British citizens do not need travel documents to visit US and they repeatedly mention "travel authorizations".
So whats the problem here? Its not like they turned away every Muslim on this flight. Somehow one or more of them got on "no flight list". Britain is filled with radical Muslims. Keep those assholes out. I'm sure Pakistan has its own version of Disney. Take your nine kids there.
Actually they kinda do. Although they don't necessarily need to apply for a Visa, they are on the ESTA program (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) It's like a fast track visa that's good for 2 years.
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I believe that the need to understand and respect the officers who are concerned about its citizens Safety. muslims need do it too,necessarily. trust must be earned
we do not always know the whole situation. terrorists might use children

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That racist bastard! He is just like HITLER!!! He is spreading FEAR!

No wait...it's President Obama that did it.
I take back everything I said.
This was obviously a genius move that was carefully thought out and made out of love.
Summed up the likes of crockett perfectly
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Summed up the likes of crockett perfectly
Except..Obama had zero to do with this. It was DHS doing their jobs.. but hey let's randomly blame Obama because Trump said stupid shit and DHS banning someone who was on a terrorist watch list can be blamed on Obama..

You guys are sheeple..
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Except..Obama had zero to do with this. It was DHS doing their jobs.. but hey let's randomly blame Obama because Trump said stupid shit and DHS banning someone who was on a terrorist watch list can be blamed on Obama..

You guys are sheeple..
This is irrelevant to my remark which was how you always see only bad things done by republicans and never see bad things done by democrats.
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This is irrelevant to my remark which was how you always see only bad things done by republicans and never see bad things done by democrats.
It's entirely relevant, because Obama had zero to do with this which is typical of you right wingers. You think because Trump says dumb shit about banning Muslims, then DHS bans a Muslim who was on a terrorist watch list.. That it's the same thing so Blame Obama..

There is pleanty of dumb shit Democrats do, but you guys always whine about the retarded shit which has next to nothing to do with reality..
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Except..Obama had zero to do with this. It was DHS doing their jobs.. but hey let's randomly blame Obama because Trump said stupid shit and DHS banning someone who was on a terrorist watch list can be blamed on Obama..

You guys are sheeple..
Lol, what a joke post. So the 10 year old niece was a terrorist too according to you

And you need to brush up on just how much control over dhs the Potus has.
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It's entirely relevant, because Obama had zero to do with this which is typical of you right wingers. You think because Trump says dumb shit about banning Muslims, then DHS bans a Muslim who was on a terrorist watch list.. That it's the same thing so Blame Obama..

There is pleanty of dumb shit Democrats do, but you guys always whine about the retarded shit which has next to nothing to do with reality..
Heads up, you should get up to speed prior to posting , BO's dhs banned the entire 11 member family.
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