Business Anybody in for a project like this?

[FunkyDog]

Long story short:

I want to start with a webcam and/or content site that takes ONLY bitcoins as payment option. I have the sources to drive traffic to it (Bitcoin related traffic). I'm on a pretty low budget right now so i'm probing to see if any content/webcam providers would be interested in joining me in a project like this for a share of site revenue...

Let me know!

[OneHungLo]

Why would you only accept bitcoin? Are you intentionally trying to cut off 95% of your market? Fantastic business plan.

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Why would you only accept bitcoin? Are you intentionally trying to cut off 95% of your market? Fantastic business plan.

Because i am aiming 100% at BTC traffic.... trust me, i know it WILL generate some good revenue with 100% bitcoin traffic and payment processing. Side note: I am gonna use software/scripts that are 100% written for bitcoins.

[RyuLion]

No thanks, good luck with that..

[SBJ]

maybe try frank?

[Rob]

Bitcoin only is a tough sell for anyone wanting to jump on board. You'd have to put forth a solid business plan and one hell of a marketing model to get anyone worth their weight. I don't know what you have planned, but it doesn't sound like a sustainable business model. Either way, good luck.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

Long story short:

I want to start with a webcam and/or content site that takes ONLY bitcoins as payment option. I have the sources to drive traffic to it (Bitcoin related traffic). I'm on a pretty low budget right now so i'm probing to see if any content/webcam providers would be interested in joining me in a project like this for a share of site revenue...

Let me know!

This is a sure-fire recipe for making the least profitable webcam site in history. Why, unless the girls on webcams are giving blowjobs to dogs and you can't get card billing approval, would you decline to take money from people who don't want to go through the butthurt of learning how BTC works, buying it somehow and transfering it to you? Most people have no BTC, so anyone that wants to buy something on your site would have to purchase it - most likely with a credit card somehow anyways - and if he can't do it via a credit card he's gonna do what? Signup for a paxum account, wait 3 days to get it approved, 2 weeks to fund it so he can go to some site and buy BTC with it and come back to your site to tip a model (which won't be there anymore anyways since she wouldn't have earned anything and gave up)?

All you would be doing here is adding in 5 steps of headache for the user before he can pay, in a market where it's already hard to get people to pay for porn.

[Rob]

Dark Webcam.

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

This is a sure-fire recipe for making the least profitable webcam site in history. Why, unless the girls on webcams are giving blowjobs to dogs and you can't get card billing approval, would you decline to take money from people who don't want to go through the butthurt of learning how BTC works, buying it somehow and transfering it to you? Most people have no BTC, so anyone that wants to buy something on your site would have to purchase it - most likely with a credit card somehow anyways - and if he can't do it via a credit card he's gonna do what? Signup for a paxum account, wait 3 days to get it approved, 2 weeks to fund it so he can go to some site and buy BTC with it and come back to your site to tip a model (which won't be there anymore anyways since she wouldn't have earned anything and gave up)?

All you would be doing here is adding in 5 steps of headache for the user before he can pay, in a market where it's already hard to get people to pay for porn.

The part you obviously didnt read is: I HAVE BTC TRAFFIC..... meaning people who ALREADY HAVE btc....

[woj]

just offer btc payment as the "primary" biller, then below that offer usual options as an alternative? or is the whole sales pitch that these cams are exclusive to btc?

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

The part you obviously didnt read is: I HAVE BTC TRAFFIC..... meaning people who ALREADY HAVE btc....

I did read that and it make's no difference - and again there would be no sense in restricting this to JUST btc. You can accept BTC on a cam site and push your btc traffic there too, while still taking card payments. There are alot more people with credit cards then BTC, and there are many unsuccessful cam sites that take cards. Just because someone has bitcoins doesn't mean they are going to buy at your cam site any more then having a credit card means someone will buy at a normal cam site. The conversion will still be the same, except you are marketing to a MUCH smaller base. Models are there to make money, not to strip, so with cams it's really go big or not at all.

Anyways - try it if you want, but porn and btc has been tried before and i've never heard of anyone having any special success with it.

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

I did read that and it make's no difference - and again there would be no sense in restricting this to JUST btc. You can accept BTC on a cam site and push your btc traffic there too, while still taking card payments. There are alot more people with credit cards then BTC, and there are many unsuccessful cam sites that take cards. Just because someone has bitcoins doesn't mean they are going to buy at your cam site any more then having a credit card means someone will buy at a normal cam site. The conversion will still be the same, except you are marketing to a MUCH smaller base. Models are there to make money, not to strip, so with cams it's really go big or not at all.

Anyways - try it if you want, but porn and btc has been tried before and i've never heard of anyone having any special success with it.

This part i disagree as paying with btc is doesn't have any negatives to the customer.... The "step" to taking out a credit card and giving out your cc numbers to a website is gone, and it's anonymous.

Anyway, i'm looking for content providers for a webcam site.

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by woj

just offer btc payment as the "primary" biller, then below that offer usual options as an alternative? or is the whole sales pitch that these cams are exclusive to btc?

Well the traffic is 100% bitcoin traffic (read: people that have an active bitcoin wallet)

[PornDiscounts-V]

You obviously are a complete fucking moron. You have btc traffic. Good for you. What you don't seem to realize is that it takes millions of people to make millions of dollars. You don't have millions of btc traffic with a billion dollars waiting to spend. You have several thousand who are not going to spend 100% of their btc at your Web cam site. So if they are only going to pay with 5% of their money like any other people would, you won't make enough to support 100's of girls to entertain them.

Hence why we know you will fail.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

This part i disagree as paying with btc is doesn't have any negatives to the customer.... The "step" to taking out a credit card and giving out your cc numbers to a website is gone, and it's anonymous.

Anyway, i'm looking for content providers for a webcam site.

So let me get this straight - you expect that people will spend money at your BTC cam site just because they have BTC, but at the same time do not expect people to pay with a credit card just because they have a credit card?

Anyways, I'm not gonna argue, if you feel you will succeed at this then power to you - but don't bet the farm.

[Sly]

Out of curiosity, how much BTC money/traffic do you really control? You say you have the traffic, but how much?

Lots of people think they have traffic when they talk about 1000 users a day. 1000 users a day is peanuts, that's not traffic. If you can control $10-25k worth of BTC daily, someone *MIGHT* be interested, but if you can control that much BTC, you don't need a partner.

Businesses only restrict method of payment when they are doing well and want to eliminate some of the trouble in their lives. For example, a business might say no to credit cards because they just want to deal with cash because they want to launder or they don't want to pay the credit card fees. That is somewhat normal for an already existing business that can survive with restrictions.

A startup is not in a position to place restrictions on payment methods. You want as many feasible payment methods as possible. Work with the lowest common denominator, not some strange offshoot currency that only people in Zimbabwe can spend.

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by vvvvv

You obviously are a complete fucking moron. You have btc traffic. Good for you. What you don't seem to realize is that it takes millions of people to make millions of dollars. You don't have millions of btc traffic with a billion dollars waiting to spend. You have several thousand who are not going to spend 100% of their btc at your Web cam site. So if they are only going to pay with 5% of their money like any other people would, you won't make enough to support 100's of girls to entertain them.

Hence why we know you will fail.

1. My goal is not millions of dollars
2. You have absolutely no idea what my traffic source is so your actually just talking without any knowledge about my project
3. I don't need 100's of girls, again you don't even know the script side of my project and the business model (that i won't explain here in public)

Again, i'm not waiting for people with ZERO knowledge about my project/traffic source/scripting/business model/site model/etc... to reply. I'm just probing for interested content suppliers.

Side note: People that talk and try to have a discussion with ZERO knowledge are fucking morons IMHO.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

1. My goal is not millions of dollars
2. You have absolutely no idea what my traffic source is so your actually just talking without any knowledge about my project
3. I don't need 100's of girls, again you don't even know the script side of my project and the business model (that i won't explain here in public)

Again, i'm not waiting for people with ZERO knowledge about my project/traffic source/scripting/business model/site model/etc... to reply. I'm just probing for interested content suppliers.

Side note: People that talk and try to have a discussion with ZERO knowledge are fucking morons IMHO.

What WebCam platform are you currently promoting?

[BoomBoomBenoit]

Clearly you're bucking the status quo with this business proposal - I am really curious as to why you'd suggest a pure BTC cam site.

Does BTC eliminate refund and chargeback risks? Are you able to have billing models that the highly regulated and anal credit card association doesn't allow? I am genuinely interested in the opportunity that you see. If you don't want to share it here, hit me up on skype: boomboombenoit.

I remember when the internet was still called the "information superhighway", there were similar objections to exits, cross sells, double blind cross sells, 100% recurring programs, sms billing for porn, etc.

Time will tell - either way I'm interested to learn more.

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by Sly

What WebCam platform are you currently promoting?

Only doing mainstream at the moment but i have done about 6 months of script developing and live testing for what i have in mind.

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by BoomBoomBenoit

Clearly you're bucking the status quo with this business proposal - I am really curious as to why you'd suggest a pure BTC cam site.

Does BTC eliminate refund and chargeback risks? Are you able to have billing models that the highly regulated and anal credit card association doesn't allow? I am genuinely interested in the opportunity that you see. If you don't want to share it here, hit me up on skype: boomboombenoit.

I remember when the internet was still called the "information superhighway", there were similar objections to exits, cross sells, double blind cross sells, 100% recurring programs, sms billing for porn, etc.

Time will tell - either way I'm interested to learn more.

Thank you, will add you and hit you up tomorrow so we can talk. I'm not at homebase right now but will fly back tomorrow.

[BoomBoomBenoit]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

Thank you, will add you and hit you up tomorrow so we can talk. I'm not at homebase right now but will fly back tomorrow.

sounds good!

[Penny24Seven]

Fuck them, I made a site and only accept onions as payment. The people without onions well fuck them I say. Onions only on my site. You know what. I have the most onions and now I am looking for some rings. I will be the onion ring king

[ITraffic]

was already tried before. pretty sure it's long gone.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Brian837

Fuck them, I made a site and only accept onions as payment. The people without onions well fuck them I say. Onions only on my site. You know what. I have the most onions and now I am looking for some rings. I will be the onion ring king

I think you need bread coating, flour, and oil - not 'rings' per say

[aleussX]

There is already a bitcoin exclusive based website , called XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. , started this year .
I see some camsites implementing bitcoin , but they also run traditional payment services . This one is an example Xlovecam - Purchase Credits

[DAMNMAN]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Why would you only accept bitcoin? Are you intentionally trying to cut off 95% of your market? Fantastic business plan.

I love Bitcoin as much as the next guy but this is SOOOOOOOOO true!!!!!!

[Ross]

The cam business is hard enough when you accept every single payment method available to man but when you limit it to a highly technical crypto currency that someone has to jump thru hoops to purchase or generate, you are just asking for trouble.

The ups and downs are too volatile, your data will be all over the place from week to week. You will not have consistent results because everything will have impacts depending when you bought it, paid for it or accept payment.

I wish you the best but cutting off 98% of potential customers is dumb.

[brassmonkey]

let me guess you will hold the bitcoins!

[MetaMan]

LOL how many sites have you made accepting anykind of payment? Im guessing 0.

I have never heard someone actually say that on their website they want the least amount of billing options possible.

[JIBCONTENT]

I am interested fuck all these guys.

And I think I have just thought up the secret sauce of what will make your idea fly.

99 Percent of the start ups in adult web are about how to make a quick buck giving the surfer the absolute worst experience and take him for the most amount of money as possible. I'm long haul and that means cams....and cryptos.

15 years from now these same guys talking shit will be like "Why is that Visa payment option on your site? Does anyone still use it?"

BTC and camming are like PB and J

[JesseQuinn]

Originally Posted by aleussX

There is already a bitcoin exclusive based website , called XOtika.TV: Bitcoin adult live streaming community. , started this year .

off hand I can think of at least 3 other bitcoin-based cam sites fom the past couple of years that are now parked domains.

cams is a tough field and even mainstream sites have a hard time gaining traction so not all that surprising that btc-based sites have even more of an uphill climb. as peeps above have already written, btc is not yet a general use currency and not offering cc processing eliminates a huge sector of the target market

Originally Posted by aleussX

I see some camsites implementing bitcoin , but they also run traditional payment services . This one is an example Xlovecam - Purchase Credits

exactly. I can see the utility of offering btc as a payment option, but building a entire site around it is just willful blindness of the marketplace in it's current form.

adultmobile has been awesome in honestly reporting the underwehlming net effect of btc with his site, one of the current 'success' stories is Porn.com and even they only process 5% through btc.

OP, I'd urge you to do a bit more research into practical, real world experiences of adult sites and btc before you invest any more time and money into your venture as you currently envision it.

however you proceed wish ya good luck though

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

LOL how many sites have you made accepting anykind of payment? Im guessing 0.

I have never heard someone actually say that on their website they want the least amount of billing options possible.

I made my first website accepting payments in 1998..... adult
The last one i made was about 2 months ago, mainstream, bitcoins... running good, not a million dollar site but gets a fair amount of revenue

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by JIBCONTENT

I am interested fuck all these guys.

And I think I have just thought up the secret sauce of what will make your idea fly.

99 Percent of the start ups in adult web are about how to make a quick buck giving the surfer the absolute worst experience and take him for the most amount of money as possible. I'm long haul and that means cams....and cryptos.

15 years from now these same guys talking shit will be like "Why is that Visa payment option on your site? Does anyone still use it?"

BTC and camming are like PB and J

Will contact you shortly, just came home after a long and delayed flight

[FunkyDog]

Originally Posted by BoomBoomBenoit

sounds good!

Will contact you today... my flight was delayed

[JIBCONTENT]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

Will contact you shortly, just came home after a long and delayed flight

send again to gthing at gmx

[sandman!]

fuck no i will pass

[Dmitry]

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[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

I made my first website accepting payments in 1998..... adult
The last one i made was about 2 months ago, mainstream, bitcoins... running good, not a million dollar site but gets a fair amount of revenue

I can understand why you would want to use btc, but why on earth would you not want to offer alternatives? Cost issue?

[ilnjscb]

Do you only have BTC traffic for cams? Or do you have other BTC demand traffic?

[kkkkkk]

Totally interested.

[Sadie Rosse]

Oh, why would you accept only bitcoin?

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

Long story short:

I want to start with a webcam and/or content site that takes ONLY bitcoins as payment option. I have the sources to drive traffic to it (Bitcoin related traffic). I'm on a pretty low budget right now so i'm probing to see if any content/webcam providers would be interested in joining me in a project like this for a share of site revenue...

Let me know!

[$money$]

Originally Posted by kkkkkk

Totally interested.

though you were a model

[PornDiscounts-V]

I don't need to know about YOUR particular business to know this is going to fail as a bitcoin only entity. I know about BUSINESS in general. Sort of like the guy running Pepsi doesn't know dick about soft drinks. He knows about business as well.

[Karatmaster]

Originally Posted by FunkyDog

Because i am aiming 100% at BTC traffic....

Hey Funky, have you started mining the CPC yet ?
Otherwise, see the crypto website in my signature ... and let's talk !