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Paul Markham · 02-19-2016, 08:43 AM

David Cameron is trying to reform the EU and pull it back a little. And getting nowhere because the EU politicians and bureaucrats are set on creating a United States of Europe. Whether the people of Europe want it or not.

Cameron's problems are he promised to get a lot more from Europe than he's asked for and can't even get that little. Because countries like Czech, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia and now Greece are demanding no changes to any reduction in benefits they now receive.

We have a situation of the tail wagging the dog.

celandina · 02-19-2016, 09:00 AM

A dilemma at least 75 years old.. Too bad they did not have a Facebook then::

wehateporn · 02-19-2016, 09:04 AM

It's a stageshow, they will eventually pretend they got a great deal, so as the people in the UK don't mind staying in the EU

blogspot · 02-19-2016, 12:25 PM

pretty much sums that up

redwhiteandblue · 02-19-2016, 02:47 PM

EU referendum - New poll shows UK on course for Brexit as PM struggles with renegotiation | Politics | News | Daily Express

Ross · 02-19-2016, 02:57 PM

Cameron is an idiot. Idiots put him in power, again. I am glad I left that shit hole years ago.

Paul&John · 02-19-2016, 02:57 PM

breaking Unanimous support for UK-EU deal - Tusk - BBC News

ianmoone332000 · 02-20-2016, 05:01 AM

Let project fear commence. Wait and see the scare stories they try and pull. Pray wee still vote out. I worked in a factory for over 10 years in Scotland. It provided a job/income for thousands of local people since the 1970s. One day a big bus pulls up full of Europeans. We naively didnt think too much of it. Within 18 months, 90% of the local people were gone (including myself) and replaced by these Europeans. They were all kept on agency work so if it was a quiet day,they could send them home half way through there shift to save some money. As soon as there were more of them than us,the company started changing the terms and conditions of our contracts that we had fought for over years as they knew the Europeans would do what they were told. Of course they did, they were just happy to have a job. These Europeans would also tell you they spent the minimum needed to live in Scotland and saved there money. Then on there holidays, they would go home and buy there clothes etc. Basically putting as much of there earnings back into there own economies. Now this is just 1 factory in Glasgow. Think of the thousands of places up and down Britain its happened too over the past few years. Its fucking grim

redwhiteandblue · 02-20-2016, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

breaking Unanimous support for UK-EU deal - Tusk - BBC News

Of course the BBC is going to be all over it talking it up - they get funding from the EU.

It's one big fucking gravy train and we need to be shot of it.

Paul Markham · 02-20-2016, 03:29 PM

With a rough guess at the income level, I would say everyone on under £35,000 ($55,000) per year is worse off. The lower down the income level the worse they're doing.

The top reason for a lowering of living standards has to be house prices and rents. Then in this order roughly, wages, employment, healthcare, education and benefits. Added to that is the need to keep borrowing to keep paying out benefits that wouldn't be required if there were fewer migrants.

@ ianmoone Come to Czech and see where some of those companies have moved to. Easier to move to the workers then employ migrants on taxpayer subsidies.

I still can't see any benefits for anyone under £35,000 or even as high as £55,000.

This applies to Germany especially with the flood of migrants from the ME driving down wages, pushing up property prices and putting more into poverty. Hence the move to the only people who offer any solution, the Far Right. Once those migrants spill into France, Austria, Holland, Denmark, voters will kick back.

Unanimous support for UK-EU deal - Tusk - BBC News = Politicians, aren't a democratic system. It'sd the people who do.

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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	With a rough guess at the income level, I would say everyone on under £35,000 ($55,000) per year is worse off. The lower down the income level the worse they're doing. The top reason for a lowering of living standards has to be house prices and rents. Then in this order roughly, wages, employment, healthcare, education and benefits. Added to that is the need to keep borrowing to keep paying out benefits that wouldn't be required if there were fewer migrants. @ ianmoone Come to Czech and see where some of those companies have moved to. Easier to move to the workers then employ migrants on taxpayer subsidies. I still can't see any benefits for anyone under £35,000 or even as high as £55,000. This applies to Germany especially with the flood of migrants from the ME driving down wages, pushing up property prices and putting more into poverty. Hence the move to the only people who offer any solution, the Far Right. Once those migrants spill into France, Austria, Holland, Denmark, voters will kick back. Unanimous support for UK-EU deal - Tusk - BBC News = Politicians, aren't a democratic system. It'sd the people who do. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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ianmoone332000 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,705	Let project fear commence. Wait and see the scare stories they try and pull. Pray wee still vote out. I worked in a factory for over 10 years in Scotland. It provided a job/income for thousands of local people since the 1970s. One day a big bus pulls up full of Europeans. We naively didnt think too much of it. Within 18 months, 90% of the local people were gone (including myself) and replaced by these Europeans. They were all kept on agency work so if it was a quiet day,they could send them home half way through there shift to save some money. As soon as there were more of them than us,the company started changing the terms and conditions of our contracts that we had fought for over years as they knew the Europeans would do what they were told. Of course they did, they were just happy to have a job. These Europeans would also tell you they spent the minimum needed to live in Scotland and saved there money. Then on there holidays, they would go home and buy there clothes etc. Basically putting as much of there earnings back into there own economies. Now this is just 1 factory in Glasgow. Think of the thousands of places up and down Britain its happened too over the past few years. Its fucking grim