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Old 03-01-2016, 02:43 PM   #51
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:32 PM   #52
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All true. Makes me sad that his style of the message resonates, but true.
Look at the approval ratings of Congress , even the president, his approval rating average is the lowest since Carter. No one wants a politician, Trump isn't a politician.

It's because of the failings of Obama that Trump will most likely be the next president.

More people are unemployed than when he took office and more people are without health insurance than when he took office. Remember that the population has grown 16 million poeple and the amount of new people with jobs or healthcare has not kept up with that number, people are pissed!

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Other than hiring undocumented workers from Poland to build a building, what in the world has Trump done for equality?
Doesn't matter, no one like politicians, so Trump can say whatever he wants at this point
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Old 03-01-2016, 05:55 PM   #53
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Say what you want about Trump, but his campaign has been brilliant.
Spent less money and went the farthest, Focused on the things he thought most regular people were disgusted about and nailed it and didn't act like a politician. Everyone in the media has been bashing him yet his rankings in the polls and the votes just keep going up.

Plain and simple, he knows what he's doing and he's changing the way politics are done. He's pissing off the Politicians that want things to be the a way they can control, but no one can control Trump.

I'll bet Hillary is not looking forward to debating him!
It has been brilliant definitely. He tapped into a vein of stupid that runs right through America. It takes a little bit of smarts to recognize that.
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Would be funny if during the debates Trump brought out a check for Hillary. To give a speech for him.
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It has been brilliant definitely. He tapped into a vein of stupid that runs right through America. It takes a little bit of smarts to recognize that.
According to the exit polling, he's winning with the educated as well.

I think Stupid would be rallying for 4 more years of Obama with all his failures as Hillary is saying she's a 3rd term of Obama
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It's because of the failings of Obama that Trump will most likely be the next president.
Well now you go back to being wrong. My life has improved significantly since Obama has been in office, I guess it is about knowing what to do in the right enviroment. Trump is popular because he has a low brow base that has a reality TV mindset. Hillary will be the next POTUS.
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Old 03-01-2016, 10:24 PM   #57
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Well now you go back to being wrong. My life has improved significantly since Obama has been in office, I guess it is about knowing what to do in the right enviroment. Trump is popular because he has a low brow base that has a reality TV mindset. Hillary will be the next POTUS.
Obama has been a great president so far. Here are 335 Accomplishments with citations:

PCTC* | President Obama Has Done a LOT! A List of 335 Accomplishments so far, With Citations

If Trump gets elected, I don't think he will accomplish a single thing. He just has zero experience. I think he believes his own one-liners and thinks it will be easy to run the country, but I bet anything that if he actually gets in, he will have a nervous breakdown within a month, and accomplish nothing during his 1 term except piss a lot of people off.

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Obama has been a great president so far.

If Trump gets elected, I don't think he will accomplish a single thing. He just has zero experience.
You don't even see what you just wrote do you?

Trump has had 40 plus years experience as an executive.

Obama had ZERO experience as an executive (the Presidency is the executive branch) and only TWO years as a Jr. Senator from Illinois.

So you say that someone with no experience would be a terrible President. And then you turn around and say the current President who had no experience is a great President.
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Old 03-02-2016, 04:50 AM   #60
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It's because of the failings of Obama that Trump will most likely be the next president.

More people are unemployed than when he took office and more people are without health insurance than when he took office. Remember that the population has grown 16 million poeple and the amount of new people with jobs or healthcare has not kept up with that number, people are pissed!
Is this because of Obama or Congress? If so why didn't Congress stop him?


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Doesn't matter, no one like politicians, so Trump can say whatever he wants at this point
Agree and disagree.

We need people in power who aren't owned by big business. So removing the ability to buy political power is essential.

The problem with Trump is he can't come up with a workable political plan. No business plan would be allowed to be so vague and badly costed. As for the language he uses. That would get him kicked out of a boardroom.
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How much better did Bush do and would Mitt Romney, McCain, Gore or Kerry have been better?

What never cease to amuse me is how people cling to flags, even if a moron is leading the troop.

Trump isn't acting like a businessman when he pitching for the biggest job in the world. Would you do business with a man like this and with a business plan like his? No one would.

A business plan can't be made up of soundbites and budgets with huge holes in them. A businessman can't insult people previous choices, and that's what he's doing. He's telling the people they have been idiots for years by voting for the wrong people. And no matter how much people complain. Politicians get voted into office.

No matter how much blame people put on politicians. We get the people we vote for and often the people that are bought by others.

Why is the job market in the crapper? We exported jobs to the Third World.
Why are living conditions so bad? We imported millions of cheap workers.

The reality is clear. The richest who pay for the politicians are all doing great. None of them have a problem getting health care or money. So why not vote for one of them?

After all, it's cheaper than buying them.

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Trump just released his healthcare platform. And to be honest...it looks pretty damn good:

Healthcare Reform | Donald J Trump for President
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Trump just released his healthcare platform. And to be honest...it looks pretty damn good:

Healthcare Reform | Donald J Trump for President
I think those would have been good things pre Obamacare that the GOP should have done to pre-empt Obamacare if they had truly given a fuck. What is missing though is guaranteed coverage. My partner in Yanks and in life had abnormal test 10 years ago, between then and Obama because we are self employed Health Insurance was a no go. Denied, even though the test never reoccurred and was medically a non issue. Under this plan she gets denied, I guarantee it. Coverage for all in a first world country is standard in 2016. Conservative or not. We need to heal each other when possible.

If he is such a good negotiator where is he in negotiating health costs down. My father in law recently passed after an accident. No "sorry for your lose" needed he was a class a-1 prick. His medical bill was a million dollars for a 3 week hospital stay. This was after a fall that could have happened to anyone. He was conservative and used a loophole to avoid Obamacare. Had he had it there would have been an estate to leave to his only daughter, he didn't, the estate bankrupted. Under this plan the same thing would have happened, estate bankrupted. So back to the first sentence. Where is the great "Art of the Deal" writer in negotiating those costs to what they would be in the UK, Spain, Australia, Germany, Canada, etc.?

The points are good, but dated. The GOP should have gotten this done before Obamacare. This doesn't improve it.
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Todd, in every speech Trump has given on healthcare he has said repeatedly that pre-existing conditions will all be covered.
The other Republican candidates attacked him in the last debate when he said there was no way that he would let people "die in the streets".

Matter of fact they are all attacking him today saying his plan is no different than Hillary's.
Trump is not and never has been the "extreme right wing" blah-blah-blah that some of the low information fake liberals of GFY have tried to paint him as. (not referring to you)

I think your partner would have better coverage and wouldn't be denied under Trump's plan from what I have understood as he explained it. And it would be far cheaper than the massive ripoff by the insurance companies that is going on now.

And medication will be too. Trump's plans on stopping the drug companies from price gouging are right on the money.
I watched him speak on television the other day. And he said flat out that all the other candidates and every politician in Washington D.C. gets money from Big Pharma.
He then went on to say that he doesn't want or need their money and that he (and I quote) doesn't "Give a damn" about the heads of the big drug companies.
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Anyway, today is THE day.

The Republican Establishment is going to full out war against Trump.

They have an "open letter" from 50 former security officials proclaiming that Trump is "dangerous" to our "security" and will make the U.S. less "secure".

AND...they are bringing out Mr. Establishment himself to praise all of the other candidates running and to condemn Trump.

I guess we'll see if going nuclear is enough to convince voters that they need to get back in line and obey or not.
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At the beginning of the first debate wasn't Trump chastised about possibly running as an independent instead of a Republican? Wasn't the GOP pressuring him to run as a Republican and not an independent?
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Todd, in every speech Trump has given on healthcare he has said repeatedly that pre-existing conditions will all be covered.
The other Republican candidates attacked him in the last debate when he said there was no way that he would let people "die in the streets".

Matter of fact they are all attacking him today saying his plan is no different than Hillary's.
Trump is not and never has been the "extreme right wing" blah-blah-blah that some of the low information fake liberals of GFY have tried to paint him as. (not referring to you)

I think your partner would have better coverage and wouldn't be denied under Trump's plan from what I have understood as he explained it. And it would be far cheaper than the massive ripoff by the insurance companies that is going on now.

And medication will be too. Trump's plans on stopping the drug companies from price gouging are right on the money.
I watched him speak on television the other day. And he said flat out that all the other candidates and every politician in Washington D.C. gets money from Big Pharma.
He then went on to say that he doesn't want or need their money and that he (and I quote) doesn't "Give a damn" about the heads of the big drug companies.
Trump has gone OTR since August stating pre-existing conditions are covered under his plan.
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His medical bill was a million dollars for a 3 week hospital stay.
umm, yeah, no.
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Trump has gone OTR since August stating pre-existing conditions are covered under his plan.
I guess his past OTR didn't make the official OTR that he made his campaign OTR there Sparky.

Maybe my control-F is broken though. Can you point it out there Sport.
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I guess his past OTR didn't make the official OTR that he made his campaign OTR there Sparky.

Maybe my control-F is broken though. Can you point it out there Sport.
you claim you're the brainiac, sparky sport, do it yourself.
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Under this plan she gets denied, I guarantee it.
this.


i'm supposed to guide you through to Trump's stating preexisting conditions are covered under his plan, meanwhile you get a free pass on your Oklahoma guarantee.
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i'm supposed to guide you through to Trump's stating preexisting conditions are covered under his plan, meanwhile you get a free pass on your Oklahoma guarantee.

Ok, I will go slower. The....Pre...exist......ing.....con...di...tion... s......r.....not.....on....that....page. I win. You say that is is policy. It isn't....on....the....inter.....net.....Cheers Champ!
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2/3, 30%, 49% of 1,000.

Is far less than 1/3, 10%, 16% of 5,000.

What are the actual numbers of Republican v Democrat votes?


I was amazed listening to South Caroliners being interviewed on the news here. They were saying how they want a person who isn't part of the political establishment and owned by big business. I'll bet a cent to a dollar they have a long history of voting for these guys.

Nothing will change by voting Trump. They have to vote over and over again for people outside the grip of big business. Which is something they have never done.
Good call Paul!
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This morning CNN released it's recent poll which shows Trump loosing to Hillary - 52% to 44%, which is huge. In fact, another poll also shows Trump loosing to Sanders.

Nearly every poll out there - except for Fox News of course - has Hillary winning: RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton
Spot on, Rochard!!
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