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Old 04-16-2016, 01:21 AM   #1
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Weed makes you psychotic.

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The warning from scientists in the UK, US, Europe and Australia reflects a growing consensus that frequent use of the drug can increase the risk of psychosis in vulnerable people, and comes as the UN prepares to convene a special session on the global drugs problem for the first time since 1998. The meeting in New York next week aims to unify countries in their efforts to tackle issues around illicit drug use.

While the vast majority of people who smoke cannabis will not develop psychotic disorders, those who do can have their lives ruined. Psychosis is defined by hallucinations, delusions and irrational behaviour, and while most patients recover from the episodes, some go on to develop schizophrenia. The risk is higher among patients who continue with heavy cannabis use.

Public health warnings over cannabis have been extremely limited because the drug is illegal in most countries, and there are uncertainties over whether it really contributes to mental illness. But many researchers now believe the evidence for harm is strong enough to issue clear warnings.

?It?s not sensible to wait for absolute proof that cannabis is a component cause of psychosis,? said Sir Robin Murray, professor of psychiatric research at King?s College London. ?There?s already ample evidence to warrant public education around the risks of heavy use of cannabis, particularly the high-potency varieties. For many reasons, we should have public warnings.?
You should stop smoking the reefer and go crazy for the love of Jesus Christ our lord and savior instead IMO
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Replace 'cannabis' with 'alcohol' to see some bigotry.
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Replace 'cannabis' with 'alcohol' to see some bigotry.
It's way easier for people to justify cannabis use. I mean television, movies, and old hippies say it's cool so you know it's true. Screw all those scienceing science idiots...
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You should stop smoking the reefer and go crazy for the love of Jesus Christ our lord and savior instead IMO
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I smoke maybe once every few months. I started a couple years ago after only smoking a couple times my entire life.

When I started a couple years ago and smoked for the first time, about a day later I had a really weird negative mood swing. It was only after a few more times of smoking the following months that I noticed the pattern.

I'm not sure if the pot these days is a lot stronger or what but I know now if I don't taper down, it happens like clockwork about 24 hours later. If I use an edible I have no side effects at all. Strange.

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It's true - I've had a couple psychotic episodes in the past from heavy weed use.
Just check my posting history lol!
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I'm pretty sure the word heavy should be emphasized here.. Heavy use of anything leads to bad things (sugar, alcohol, prescription drugs etc)
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Psychosis is defined by hallucinations, delusions and irrational behaviour, and while most patients recover from the episodes, some go on to develop schizophrenia. The risk is higher among patients who continue with heavy cannabis use.
How many joints needed to have hallucinations?
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How many joints needed to have hallucinations?
All of them. All the joints
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My own view is that cannabis definitely can trigger psychotic episodes in some people, I've seen it happen to people I knew. I don't take drugs. Why anyone would want to gamble with their health in this way is beyond me.
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All of them. All the joints
I smoked all the joints before and it gave me a headache.

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All of them. All the joints
I was wondering. gracias

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My own view is that cannabis definitely can trigger psychotic episodes in some people, I've seen it happen to people I knew. I don't take drugs. Why anyone would want to gamble with their health in this way is beyond me.
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My own view is that cannabis definitely can trigger psychotic episodes in some people, I've seen it happen to people I knew. I don't take drugs. Why anyone would want to gamble with their health in this way is beyond me.
no sugar or coffee? i would assume that is more difficult than being vegan lol
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On the whole weed vs alcohol thing....

Weed is a plant that comes from mother earth.

Alcohol is FUCKING ALCOHOL. It can be used to clean things and is highly flammable. It can't be good for you.

and have you ever heard the term "belligerent stoner"???
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As are shrooms!
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On the whole weed vs alcohol thing....

Weed is a plant that comes from mother earth.

Alcohol is FUCKING ALCOHOL. It can be used to clean things and is highly flammable. It can't be good for you.

and have you ever heard the term "belligerent stoner"???
so arsenic and crude oil = safe because natural. gotcha...
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so arsenic and crude oil = safe because natural. gotcha...
Ok that's some straw man bullshit.
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and have you ever heard the term "belligerent stoner"???
Yes. And I think we have/will see examples of these as the thread progresses
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natura...peal_to_nature
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On the whole weed vs alcohol thing....

Weed is a plant that comes from mother earth.

Alcohol is FUCKING ALCOHOL. It can be used to clean things and is highly flammable. It can't be good for you.

and have you ever heard the term "belligerent stoner"???
smoking anything is not good and eating it can really fuck you up if you're not careful. i smoked daily for 20 years and had mostly great times but i would be lying if i said it didn't have some negative impacts in certain parts of my life though its sure as hell much better than drinking every day for 20 years.
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If I use an edible I have no side effects at all. Strange.
The difference is 98 degrees vs 450.
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Yes, that is literally what your argument was on the matter. I just gave you examples of what you just said. Glad to hear you are brushing up on your critical thinking lingo though, that is the first step. You just need to figure out how to apply it and you are on your way.
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Yes, that is literally what your argument was on the matter. I just gave you examples of what you just said. Glad to hear you are brushing up on your critical thinking lingo though, that is the first step. You just need to figure out how to apply it and you are on your way.
literally the argument? you sure?
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Stupidest argument ever. Lot's of poisons come from "mother earth"...
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Actually no, it's very accurate. Lot's of poisonous herbs, dangerous stuff you should not even touch, that come from "mother earth"
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On the whole weed vs alcohol thing....

Weed is a plant that comes from mother earth.

Alcohol is FUCKING ALCOHOL. It can be used to clean things and is highly flammable. It can't be good for you.

and have you ever heard the term "belligerent stoner"???
- alcohol is produced by yeast, one of the most primitive and oldest known organisms on earth...
- it was consumed by humans way earlier than weed...
- it naturally occurs in fruit: http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1970-v...28DAVIS%29.pdf
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- alcohol is produced by yeast, one of the most primitive and oldest known organisms on earth...
- it was consumed by humans way earlier than weed...
- it naturally occurs in fruit: http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1970-v...28DAVIS%29.pdf
where did you get that info about booze before weed (or incense/herbal drugs is what i am thinking here)?
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- alcohol is produced by yeast, one of the most primitive and oldest known organisms on earth...
- it was consumed by humans way earlier than weed...
- it naturally occurs in fruit: http://fshs.org/proceedings-o/1970-v...28DAVIS%29.pdf
Weed is plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan... it cant be bad for you. It was put on earth for us to smoke.
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where did you get that info about booze before weed (or incense/herbal drugs is what i am thinking here)?
"...human ancestors began consuming alcohol as early as 80 million years ago, when early primates occasionally ate rotting fermented fruit rich in ethanol."

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"...human ancestors began consuming alcohol as early as 80 million years ago, when early primates occasionally ate rotting fermented fruit rich in ethanol."

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'"I suspect ethanol was a second-choice item," Carrigan said. "If the ancestors of humans, chimps and gorillas had a choice between rotten and normal fruit, they would go for the normal fruit. Just because they were adapted to be able to ingest it doesn't mean ethanol was their first choice, nor that they were perfectly adapted to metabolize it. They might have benefited from small quantities, but not to excessive consumption."

so they just figured out a way to find out how far back the ability to digest it goes

that doesn't mean they weren't ingesting or smoking anything else..?
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People can have bad trips or get really uncomfortable of course especially edibles...here in CA it's regulated and lab testing including dosage information is standard. The days of smoking random flowers from street dealers is over. Has anyone ever died from direct consumption? No.

It's psychoactive, so of course people might trip out. The people and "scientists" who have an issue with it are big pharm and other parties who would suffer if it's more widely accepted

In other news PA has legalized medical use.

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Yes, that is literally what your argument was on the matter. I just gave you examples of what you just said. Glad to hear you are brushing up on your critical thinking lingo though, that is the first step. You just need to figure out how to apply it and you are on your way.
I said because alcohol can be used as a cleaning solution, it should not go in your body....and just because arsenic exists, it doesn't automatically make cannabis bad for you. Thanks for being smart enough to help me with my critical thinking.
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