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Old 06-16-2016, 11:12 AM   #1
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who says US needs to ban guns, when shooting in UK kills young female MP

Well I can't believe the news today, horrible, what an awful tragedy.

A Labour MP Jo Cox has been shot & stabbed today, just before 1pm in Yorkshire. She has died & now has taken Britain by surprise!



Jo Cox MP dead after shooting attack - BBC News

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...west-yorkshire


she was meant to be a really nice person, bringing a zest to life, working for oxfam & trying to do right for the people of her area

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what does the US have to do with this?
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its a tragedy, i hate how change will happen once we really hit rock bottom.
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what does the US have to do with this?
Well since the Orlando shooting, I hear many people changing their views over guns in the US. Now hearing a shooting today in the UK, when guns are not legal, legal or not, means nothing. Maybe change can be a bad thing & I'm staying strong to believe the US have their own laws & have it right for the US.

Not sure where the guy got the gun he used to kill the MP, and such a shame. He was meant to be law abiding & a nice guy. The MP, an amazing woman, caring & always helping people...

Very strange what has happened & why?
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Well since the Orlando shooting, I hear many people changing their views over guns in the US. Now hearing a shooting today in the UK, when guns are not legal, legal or not, means nothing. Maybe change can be a bad thing & I'm staying strong to believe the US have their own laws & have it right for the US.

Not sure where the guy got the gun he used to kill the MP, and such a shame. He was meant to be law abiding & a nice guy. The MP, an amazing woman, caring & always helping people...

Very strange what has happened & why?
so you're saying the UK should allow guns or the USA should abolish gun laws or both? what?
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Well I can't believe the news today, horrible, what an awful tragedy.

A Labour MP Jo Cox has been shot & stabbed today, just before 1pm in Yorkshire. She has died & now has taken Britain by surprise!



Jo Cox MP dead after shooting attack - BBC News

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...west-yorkshire


she was meant to be a really nice person, bringing a zest to life, working for oxfam & trying to do right for the people of her area

fucking murdering bastards
I noticed how the knife got a walk on the 'hysterical' post. what's up with that?
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is there a trump equivalent in the UK liberals can blame this on? if not, then go ahead, blame our trump.

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Tragedy in gun-free, gun-phobic, Europe; where all you can do is run, hide, and pray you don't get shot

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is there a trump equivalent in the UK liberals can blame this on? if not, then go ahead, blame our trump.

Nigel Farage ?

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exactly ONE person killed
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Tragedy in gun-free, gun-phobic, Europe; where all you can do is run, hide, and pray you don't get shot

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And yet there's 30 times more gun murders per capita in the US compared to the UK. All those guns don't keep you that safe do they?
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btw, not trying to gotcha on this, just trying to sort out your view/what you are saying.
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Well I can't believe the news today, horrible, what an awful tragedy.

A Labour MP Jo Cox has been shot & stabbed today, just before 1pm in Yorkshire. She has died & now has taken Britain by surprise!



Jo Cox MP dead after shooting attack - BBC News

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...west-yorkshire


she was meant to be a really nice person, bringing a zest to life, working for oxfam & trying to do right for the people of her area

fucking murdering bastards
Your thread title makes no sense and your posts are confused. What is the question you are asking or what is the point you are trying to make.
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Really, this may be a right wing hate crime and a harbinger of things to come.

Very sad indeed from what I am reading so far in the media.
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And yet there's 30 times more gun murders per capita in the US compared to the UK. All those guns don't keep you that safe do they?
Yet Again! with the unfavorable comparisons between the United States and a series of cherry-picked countries like the UK with lower murder rates and with fewer guns per capita.
I?ve seen it 100 times.

Your Dhimmitude and Pointless Pacifism won't do anything to save you or your family.

Grow some Fucking Balls Prognuts..!

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Notice the shooter was a far right nut job? Guess the Brits have them too.
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Yet Again! with the unfavorable comparisons between the United States and a series of cherry-picked countries like the UK with lower murder rates and with fewer guns per capita.
I?ve seen it 100 times.

Your Dhimmitude and Pointless Pacifism won't do anything to save you or your family.

Grow some Fucking Balls Prognuts..!

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It's hardly cherry picked, the thread is about the US and the UK. And can you not see the obvious link between "lower murder rate and fewer guns"?
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Wait, you mean to tell me that in a land where guns are outlawed....only outlaws will have guns? Surely, you jest.

Check out this short video. This so-called "concealed carry" old man decides to go on a shooting spree in an internet cafe full of people. He blatantly violates the civil rights of armed robbers who would have otherwise been free to carry out another Orlando-type slaughter of helpless unarmed people, as though they were sitting ducks.

This is why guns must be outlawed, so we can be free of gun violence just like the UK.

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I don't see the correlation between political assassination, terrorism and run-of-the-mill street crime as to motive. Unless, every gun is destroyed there will be political assassins with handguns or sniper rifles. Before there were firearms there was assassination, terrorism and crime throughout history.

Caesar was stabbed to death in a meeting of Senate in Rome.


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exactly ONE person killed
One is still too many, especially when it's an obvious hit on a very nice, friendly & caring person, why, just why.

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btw, not trying to gotcha on this, just trying to sort out your view/what you are saying.
Certainly didn't think you was trying to be against me here, and understanding your questions.
I was merely pointing out the fact that sprung to mind after hearing so many wanting US banning guns because of the recent shootings in the US. So more so, I'm sticking up for gun enthusiasts in the US, saying, people in the UK can still get hold of a gun & murder a lovely, innocent & decent person.

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Your thread title makes no sense and your posts are confused. What is the question you are asking or what is the point you are trying to make.
I'm pointing out the fact with regards to gun laws in the US, as said about to Dyna Mo & wondering where do you think this murderer got his hands on a gun in the UK?

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Really, this may be a right wing hate crime and a harbinger of things to come.

Very sad indeed from what I am reading so far in the media.
Yes, it's interesting to know if this goes further than just a nut job shooting an MP, was it an inside job?

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Notice the shooter was a far right nut job? Guess the Brits have them too.
Sadly it seems you're right

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It's hardly cherry picked, the thread is about the US and the UK. And can you not see the obvious link between "lower murder rate and fewer guns"?
I wasn't thinking statistics, lower murder rates & fewer guns. This is far from how I think. One is too many & if one murder occurs in a country where bans are illegal, this doesn't mean guns should be banned in another
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One is still too many, especially when it's an obvious hit on a very nice, friendly & caring person, why, just why.



Certainly didn't think you was trying to be against me here, and understanding your questions.
I was merely pointing out the fact that sprung to mind after hearing so many wanting US banning guns because of the recent shootings in the US. So more so, I'm sticking up for gun enthusiasts in the US, saying, people in the UK can still get hold of a gun & murder a lovely, innocent & decent person.



I'm pointing out the fact with regards to gun laws in the US, as said about to Dyna Mo & wondering where do you think this murderer got his hands on a gun in the UK?



Yes, it's interesting to know if this goes further than just a nut job shooting an MP, was it an inside job?



Sadly it seems you're right



I wasn't thinking statistics, lower murder rates & fewer guns. This is far from how I think. One is too many & if one murder occurs in a country where bans are illegal, this doesn't mean guns should be banned in another
You are pointing out what 'fact with regards to gun laws in the US'? Your comprehension of the English language is absolutely shocking.
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It's hardly cherry picked, the thread is about the US and the UK. And can you not see the obvious link between "lower murder rate and fewer guns"?
don't mind him. He has lived in an asylum, at least in his mind, for some time now..
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what does the US have to do with this?
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You are pointing out what 'fact with regards to gun laws in the US'?
I'll repeat my point again. The UK doesn't allow guns, alas, some nut job had a gun & killed a defenceless woman. The US has taken abuse for the law on guns, with all the shootings, many US people are changing views, especially since Orlando, saying guns should be banned.

I'm saying, maybe not, because no matter the law, guns will still be bought on the black market
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I'll repeat my point again. The UK doesn't allow guns, alas, some nut job had a gun & killed a defenceless woman. The US has taken abuse for the law on guns, with all the shootings, many US people are changing views, especially since Orlando, saying guns should be banned.

I'm saying, maybe not, because no matter the law, guns will still be bought on the black market
Gary you are thick as shit

You can own guns in the UK

Airguns are legal.

And you can own guns if you have a valid licence.

Many UK farmers own shotguns.
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It's hardly cherry picked, the thread is about the US and the UK. And can you not see the obvious link between "lower murder rate and fewer guns"?
Not at all



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nothing compares to the death toll from guns (in first world countries) than that of the USA despite the rising ones in the UK.
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nothing compares to the death toll from guns (in first world countries) than that of the USA despite the rising ones in the UK.

thanks captain obvious. no one in the USA had any idea.
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nothing compares to the death toll from guns (in first world countries) than that of the USA despite the rising ones in the UK.
Is this thinking from the stats you've seen for the number of murders by use of a gun, or are you talking about the size of the country by the numbers of kills by use of a gun?

Isn't the reality, "deaths from a gun per sq metre of the country". Or, "population divided by murders from a gun" ratio?

The fact is, "the ban of a gun" really doesn't make any difference.

A gun was still used, & used for murder, in a country where guns are illegal
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Wait, you mean to tell me that in a land where guns are outlawed....only outlaws will have guns? Surely, you jest.

Check out this short video. This so-called "concealed carry" old man decides to go on a shooting spree in an internet cafe full of people. He blatantly violates the civil rights of armed robbers who would have otherwise been free to carry out another Orlando-type slaughter of helpless unarmed people, as though they were sitting ducks.

This is why guns must be outlawed, so we can be free of gun violence just like the UK.

Let's put this into perspective....

In 2011, there was 39 firearm deaths in all of England. In the United States, there was 7230.

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Well since the Orlando shooting, I hear many people changing their views over guns in the US. Now hearing a shooting today in the UK, when guns are not legal, legal or not, means nothing. Maybe change can be a bad thing & I'm staying strong to believe the US have their own laws & have it right for the US.

Not sure where the guy got the gun he used to kill the MP, and such a shame. He was meant to be law abiding & a nice guy. The MP, an amazing woman, caring & always helping people...

Very strange what has happened & why?
When was the last time 10 people died to guns in a single day in the UK, much less 10 at one time?

Seems to me the stats speak for themselves.. less guns = less gun violence..
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If the news stories are correct the shooter was inspired by neo-Nazi and other White Supremacist Movements -- racist and anti-immigrant dogma played a factor.

British Parliament assassin who supported U.S. neo-Nazis charged - NY Daily News

So, he gets 3 hots and a cot for 40 years in prison or until he dies which ever comes first?
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If the news stories are correct the shooter was inspired by neo-Nazi and other White Supremacist Movements -- racist and anti-immigrant dogma played a factor.

British Parliament assassin who supported U.S. neo-Nazis charged - NY Daily News

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I don't know there are multiple sources cited not just one source.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...ional-alliance

Credible sources

This probably was a political extremist killing. Europe, like the rest of the world, has a long history of this.
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Old 06-18-2016, 08:37 AM   #41
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When was the last time 10 people died to guns in a single day in the UK, much less 10 at one time?

Seems to me the stats speak for themselves.. less guns = less gun violence..
Although wanting to agree with you, except, it's "no guns = still gun crimes"
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