Trump doesn't know when to stop: Armed Clubgoers Could Have Stopped Orlando Gunman

[Horatio Caine]

Jam packed gay club with lots of drugs and alcohol. He wants them to be armed too.

Dr Bizzaro wear wig.

[Hannes]

he needs to find a way to get rid of the people he's against..

[Paul Markham]

He's dedicated to losing the election. The thought of him being President scares the shit out of him.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Talk about a brain fart ...

[Black All Through]

I can't wait for the debates, thats if the GOP wont find a way to topple him off the chair at the Republican convention.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Black All Through

I can't wait for the debates, thats if the GOP wont find a way to topple him off the chair at the Republican convention.

They should do PPV. Smooth talking lawyer bitch VS Delusional Egomaniac from planet Trump

[2MuchMark]

I don't get it.

After he loses the election by embarrassing numbers, what will he do next? His brand will be destroyed. Hopefully he will just sell whatever he has left and then stay out of the way forever.

[Evil Chris]

The GOP convention this year will go down in history no matter what. Warm up your DVRs!

[Naughty-Pages]

Originally Posted by Gallag97

he needs to find a way to get rid of the people he's against..

That's the first thing that I thought.. lol

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by **********

I don't get it.

After he loses the election by embarrassing numbers, what will he do next? His brand will be destroyed. Hopefully he will just sell whatever he has left and then stay out of the way forever.

Thar ain't no such a thing as bad publicity.

.

[Bryan G]

Alcohol and guns what could possibly go wrong??

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by **********

I don't get it.

After he loses the election by embarrassing numbers, what will he do next? His brand will be destroyed. Hopefully he will just sell whatever he has left and then stay out of the way forever.

I was thinking the same thing. He will crawl back into hole he came from and we'll never hear from him again hopefully. It's not like his career as a TV personality was on any kind of upswing when he started to run for president.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Alcohol and guns what could possibly go wrong??

Multiply that by the fact people don't always hit what they're aiming for (like in the movies), especially if they don't have military/police training with firearms. And then there's just the stress involved. I've never been in a gunfight, but I trained with Marines as a member of my Naval Base security force, and the pistol and shotgun training takes a toll on the nerves. Just imagine if it was a real situation.

I'd rather deal with one crazed gunman, than with 20 wannabe heroes + a crazed gunman.

[Vendzilla]

Looking at this thread, it's great to see haters getting together.

BTW, if you have a CCW in most states, you're not allowed to carry in a bar.

[galleryseek]

Guarantee you those people were hoping someone somewhere had a gun to take him out.

If you can't protect yourself, how the fuck are you going to trust someone else to do it for you?

Observing the emaciation of men here is sad.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

BTW, if you have a CCW in most states, you're not allowed to carry in a bar.

[Phoenix]

lol..he does seem to be losing his shit these days

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

lol..he does seem to be losing his shit these days

He just reminds you of your loudmouth uncle who will say or do anything without thinking it through properly....... now remember Trump will have the nuclear button to hand.

[Rochard]

But.... There was someone armed with a firearm at the club. In fact, he was an off duty police officer who was working security. And the officer opened fire on the gunman.

Orlando Club Had Armed Security

A good guy with a gun does not always stop a bad guy with a gun - even more so when that bad buy is armed with an AR15. People watch way too much TV - they think a good guy will walk in and quickly take care of the bad guy and not even have to do any paperwork. It doesn't work that way.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

lol..he does seem to be losing his shit these days

And this hasn't even started yet. I cannot wait for the debates. I don't think that much of Clinton, but she's a career politician.

I think Trump is completely unprepared for this. Clinton has run a number of campaigns, everything from governor of Arkansas to Bill's presidential campaign (twice), then her own Senate seat. Of course then there is her time at the State Department. This woman knows politics like the back of her hand. Hillary has taken over the Democratic party; I don't mean this figuratively but instead her staff has taken over the day to day operations of DNC campaigning. Clinton has hundreds of staff members in every state, while Trump seems to have less than fifty in total. Trump has $2 million, while Clinton has over $40 million. (source)

I am not a huge fan of Hillary but I am wondering if she is just going to destroy Trump.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

Guarantee you those people were hoping someone somewhere had a gun to take him out.

If you can't protect yourself, how the fuck are you going to trust someone else to do it for you?

Observing the emaciation of men here is sad.

Dipshit logic hits GFY yet again.

So anyone can walk into a bar or crowded place with a gun. So someone with a gun doesn't decide to shoot everyone.

The solution is simple. Every public place is guarded by trained professionals. Paid via taxes on those places, price rises, and taxes on people buying, selling and manufacturing guns. More price rises.

[MaDalton]

When even the NRA thinks it's a bad idea...

[tony286]

Officers may have shot Orlando club patrons | 12NEWS.com
And these are trained officers.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Dipshit logic hits GFY yet again.

So anyone can walk into a bar or crowded place with a gun. So someone with a gun doesn't decide to shoot everyone.

The solution is simple. Every public place is guarded by trained professionals. Paid via taxes on those places, price rises, and taxes on people buying, selling and manufacturing guns. More price rises.

You won't make sense to a Neanderthal who thinks insulting masculinity is a valid gun debate tactic.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by tony286

Officers may have shot Orlando club patrons | 12NEWS.com
And these are trained officers.

The male emaciation post was winning. You're giving it a run though.

Officers are trained for a terrorist on a mass shooting in a nightclub. Headshot dreamland. Right.

[galleryseek]

You want to talk about some dipshit logic? Fucking christ my head is about to explode.. Let's examine this astounding piece of shit that you've managed to create with a mere 61 words..

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Dipshit logic hits GFY yet again.

So fucking ironic..

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So anyone can walk into a bar or crowded place with a gun. So someone with a gun doesn't decide to shoot everyone.

....
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YES! What the FUCK? That sounds like a strange, unrealistic scenario to you? Of all the mass shootings, they happen where?

Come on buddy, you can figure it out.. Where do they happen?

Oh, places that have those silly little "GUN FREE ZONE" signs.

And of course this same logic plays out in towns with high gun ownership. You see less armed robberies, because the advent of getting shot in the fucking face every 3rd home is disheartening, even to criminals.

Would you imagine THAT?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The solution is simple.

Oh great, this should be groundbreaking.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Every public place is guarded by trained professionals. Paid via taxes on those places, price rises, and taxes on people buying, selling and manufacturing guns. More price rises.

Got it. Another silly ass statist solution. "Let's solve this problem by government! Uh, we'll just tax everyone! That'll stop would-be mass murderers from getting guns! Swell!"

Nevermind the blatant hypocrisy of using force by way of government GUNS with your silly little tax proposal, to solve a GUN problem...

All you'd do is empower the black market, which always leads to higher crime + the same mass murderers getting their semi/fully automatic weapons. It's that simple. That's always the unintended consequence of silly scribbles called legislation used to solve a problem based on people who ignore said silly scribbles.

Your solution is the usual, shitty liberal statist solution of raising everyone's god damn taxes for any problem under the sun. Politicians would fucking love you man.

The solution is to advocate for personal protection, numb nuts. I'm not going to TAX you more, I'm not going to tell you you can't defend yourself. I'm going to say tell you that in the HIGHLY unlikely scenario that you're potentially on the other end of a bullet, you should have a fighting chance.

Originally Posted by dyna mo

You won't make sense to a Neanderthal who thinks insulting masculinity is a valid gun debate tactic.

That's a mighty fine strawman you got yourself there.

[Naughty-Pages]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

Oh, places that have those silly little "GUN FREE ZONE" signs.

Gun Free Zones are intended to protect the public from legal gun owners, not criminals.

[dyna mo]

The guy advocating guns for club chicks also doesn't know what a strawman argument is.


He doesn't realize that he's already lost the argument when he's grasping at straws to make the argument about male masculinity.

I'm not surprised.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Next time you go out shopping at a crowded supermarket -- think about this ...

The only solution may be disengagement of the US Foreign Policy with hostile countries along with most trade.

China, Russia, India, others to numerous to mention are not sending nor instigating terrorism on American soil. Countries whose territory is being used for that purpose should be totally cut off. The US involvement in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria is causing terrorism on US soil -- fuck them -- let them kill each other off.

Even if we are successful in eliminating the Islamic Terrorist State -- the same terrorist ideology will arise with a new name like it has before -- there is no winning only profits from blood $2 trillion dollars spent and this is the result -- who is the fool now?

Most of us are, but being stubborn in your foolishness is damn stupid.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

The guy advocating guns for club chicks also doesn't know what a strawman argument is.

You said:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

You won't make sense to a Neanderthal who thinks insulting masculinity is a valid gun debate tactic.

And that's your strawman. You made the assertion that I think insulting masculinity is a valid gun debate tactic, when I never said that. Stating my observation of the emaciation of men is just an observation, not an argument. Learn the difference.

And what's more laughable is that you made a 2nd strawman argument in your last reply:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

The guy advocating guns for club chicks

Christ.

[Horatio Caine]

Don't worry Trumplets. Fuckface Von Clownstick thinks you all are just plain stupid.
Here's what he says now.

"When I said that if, within the Orlando club, you had some people with guns, I was obviously talking about additional guards or employees"

Here's his original quote.

?It?s too bad that some of the young people that were killed over the weekend didn?t have guns, you know, attached to their hips, frankly, and you know where bullets could have flown in the opposite direction,? Trump said. ?It would have been a much different deal. I mean, it sounded like there were no guns. They had a security guard. Other than that there were no guns in the room. Had people been able to fire back, it would have been a much different outcome.?

Come on, tell me you didn't get it.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by galleryseek

You said:



And that's your strawman. You made the assertion that I think insulting masculinity is a valid gun debate tactic, when I never said that. Stating my observation of the emaciation of men is just an observation, not an argument. Learn the difference.

And what's more laughable is that you made a 2nd strawman argument in your last reply:



Christ.

right. you're in here just to insult people who think differently than you, eh, not to point counter-point the issue. meanwhile you try to squirm out of your claim that clubgoers should be armed:

Originally Posted by galleryseek

If you can't protect yourself, how the fuck are you going to trust someone else to do it for you?

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

right. you're in here just to insult people who think differently than you, eh, not to point counter-point the issue. meanwhile you try to squirm out of your claim that clubgoers should be armed:

Again, you made the claim that I think "club chicks" should be armed. You're *misrepresenting* my argument, which is a strawman sophist attack.

I said people should be armed. They should learn how to use their guns, and they would at least have a fighting chance.

As for armed security guards, you let market demand take care of that. If there's a demand, there will be a supply. If the amount of mass shootings (which are so extremely low) compels people enough to seek out clubs that have armed guards, then the rest will either follow suit, or run the risk bad publicity after another mass shooting.

The last thing you do is establish a fucking government decree that all clubs must have armed guards.

[dyna mo]

So everyone except club chicks should be armed at the dance club.

Thanks for the clarification.

[galleryseek]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

So everyone except club chicks should be armed at the dance club.

Thanks for the clarification.

Cute, another strawman.

Hey soul rebel, change dyno's nick to strawman plz.