Trump is welcomed to Washington DC with open arms

[Rochard]

Trump is building a hotel in Washington DC. He is suing the District of Columbia to reduce his tax liability before the hotel is even open.

If that isn't enough, he is being investigated by the Labor department due to wage violations.

This is just comical.

[Bladewire]

The GOP allowed him this platform, they could have (by their rules) ousted him long ago, many times over. The fact they get enough little people that believe he's on their side is truly saddening for them.

[plaster]

I don't understand your fascination with business...

He is going by the current laws, he said that. He wants some change because he knows how shitty things are, from his perspective. Why can't you stop listening to channels like CNN and realize that politics are corrupt from the core. People are murdered over politics every single day and it is all swept under the carpet.

Why are you trying to fight the guy that understands all this, lived it, deals with it every day, and just believe he wants something better? The guy is 70 years old... what agenda does he have to make america very poor and inferior? Serious question and please do not quote a liberal article... I want your opinion.

[Paul Markham]

I can see why he's suing. He obviously isn't as great as he says he is. He doesn't earn as much and his building isn't as great as he says they are.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by plaster

what agenda does he have to make america very poor and inferior? Serious question and please do not quote a liberal article... I want your opinion.

He's going to cut taxes, reduce healthcare, spend on the military, build a wall that will be ineffective and cost billions to run even if Mexico pays for it, he's going to bomb the ME and create more terrorists. There's even a chance he will go to way with more people than you're at war with now.

The last part is opinion, the rest is what he promises. If you want to go through his promises point by point. I would welcome the debate.

And yes the US President affects the lives of non-US citizens more than you think. The present mess in the ME is all down to Bush and Obama. Taliban, Saddam, Assad, Gadhafi style leaders, are the only type who can rule savages. The US wants them out and kills millions to achieve that aim. Just to make a few people richer.

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by plaster

I don't understand your fascination with business...

He is going by the current laws, he said that. He wants some change because he knows how shitty things are, from his perspective. Why can't you stop listening to channels like CNN and realize that politics are corrupt from the core. People are murdered over politics every single day and it is all swept under the carpet.

Why are you trying to fight the guy that understands all this, lived it, deals with it every day, and just believe he wants something better? The guy is 70 years old... what agenda does he have to make america very poor and inferior? Serious question and please do not quote a liberal article... I want your opinion.

Answer: money

Trump sells his own name out to the highest bidder, regardless of product quality or outsourced manufacturing. Trump created a fake university to scam suckers. Trump used the bankruptcy laws to escape paying creditors. All those actions were designed to increase/create wealth.

What makes you think he won't use the POTUS office to sell the American people out in the pursuit of money? He's not relinquishing all his business interest as President.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Answer: money

Trump sells his own name out to the highest bidder, regardless of product quality or outsourced manufacturing. Trump created a fake university to scam suckers. Trump used the bankruptcy laws to escape paying creditors. All those actions were designed to increase/create wealth.

What makes you think he won't use the POTUS office to sell the American people out in the pursuit of money? He's not relinquishing all his business interest as President.

Yeah its all about Trump. He owes billions to the biggest banks & investment firms that finance his properties. Trump would mean another generation slaved by student loan debt and other, higher interest, debt.

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He's going to bomb the ME and create more terrorists.

...aaaaand Obama did that today for him.

[kane]

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Answer: money

Trump sells his own name out to the highest bidder, regardless of product quality or outsourced manufacturing. Trump created a fake university to scam suckers. Trump used the bankruptcy laws to escape paying creditors. All those actions were designed to increase/create wealth.

What makes you think he won't use the POTUS office to sell the American people out in the pursuit of money? He's not relinquishing all his business interest as President.

It could be interesting though. If he is elected he will be required by law to disclose all of his financial and real estate holdings so the truth of how much he really has would come out. Most of his business would be controlled by a blind trust, which is meant to help the POTUS avoid conflicts of interest, but in his case he knows what kind of business he has and where he makes his money so even if he is not controlling the day to day operation of it he could still push for laws or support bills that would help him out.

[nico-t]

If you spent 1% of your time researching the one you will vote for, instead of spending 100% researching the candidate you hate so much, it would be alot more constructive for you.

[Paper_Zak]

I was in DC a while back and saw the construction as I was walking around the Capitol. Looks like a nice hotel.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by plaster

I don't understand your fascination with business...

He is going by the current laws, he said that. He wants some change because he knows how shitty things are, from his perspective. Why can't you stop listening to channels like CNN and realize that politics are corrupt from the core. People are murdered over politics every single day and it is all swept under the carpet.

He abuses the law every chance he gets.

It's stunning that someone can build a $200k fountain and then write off their taxes as an improvement or whatever. (Not to mention the maintenance costs.) But it's whole other kind of insanity that allows him to sue the city to lower his taxes BEFORE his business opens? On top of that, he is violating the law while it's being worked on. And based on his business record, the contractors won't get paid anyhow.

Originally Posted by plaster

Why are you trying to fight the guy that understands all this, lived it, deals with it every day, and just believe he wants something better? The guy is 70 years old... what agenda does he have to make america very poor and inferior? Serious question and please do not quote a liberal article... I want your opinion.

He isn't running for office because he wants to make the United States a better place. Before running for office, he has never done ANYTHING to support charities or make America better at all. He's made America worse - he has all of his products made overseas, fucks American worker EVERY chance he gets, and has been fucking over the entire country by not paying god only knows how much by not paying his taxes. Nearly every business he is involved in fucks people over.

Have you ever heard of Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico? (We used to drive through this area on way down to Mexico YP.) Trump put his name on a project, collected millions, and not a single thing was built. People lost their life savings in this.

Trump leaves a trail of wreckage with everything he does.

[Hannes]

how ironic that one of thee richest businessmen is trying to cut costs.

[Horatio Caine]

Dynamo should apply for roofer position

[dyna mo]

op's still mad over a fucking fountain. lolz.

as if a fucking fountain in front of the building is = to a ferrari or fancy boat, a status symbol. small penis syndrome. over a fucking fountain.

as if beautifying one's community isn't contributing back to one's community.

imagine the stark world of living in a community where the businesses don't help the place look better and be a better place to go. it's called Stockton.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Dynamo should apply for roofer position

that doesn't even make sense.

besides, you exclaimed yourself, based on your hiring illegal dope fiends, that illegals do a better job roofing than legals.

[Bladewire]

Taking a second look, this is another signal that Trump is broke.

In 2015 Trump Old Post Office LLC paid $1.7 million in taxes for the property for 2014.

This year they were billed the same $1.7 million, they've paid half, and are suing not to pay the other half. This gives him about a year and a half in mediation and litigation process delays.

No reason other than a juggling act of limited liquid assets to cover expenses.

[Barry-xlovecam]

All big business hire consultants for business real estate and personal property tax appeals and venue shopping for new projects -- that is standard operating procedure in the USA.

This has been this was since 1980 that I know of

[dyna mo]

i'm not suprised that the gfy liberal lynch mob sides with the government tax dept on this.

trump's supposed to bend over and accept the property valuation because the government says that's what it's worth.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Taking a second look, this is another signal that Trump is broke.

In 2015 Trump Old Post Office LLC paid $1.7 million in taxes for the property for 2014.

This year they were billed the same $1.7 million, they've paid half, and are suing not to pay the other half. This gives him about a year and a half in mediation and litigation process delays.

No reason other than a juggling act of limited liquid assets to cover expenses.

So now citizens can sue the city / state / federal governments to get their taxes lowered?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

All big business hire consultants for business real estate and personal property tax appeals and venue shopping for new projects -- that is standard operating procedure in the USA.

This has been this was since 1980 that I know of

So it's standard operating procedure to sue the local government to get your taxes lowered? WTF?

[dyna mo]

Americans have been able to contest and sue over government property assessment for decades.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

All big business hire consultants for business real estate and personal property tax appeals and venue shopping for new projects -- that is standard operating procedure in the USA.

This has been this was since 1980 that I know of

Why pay it last year and dispute the same amount this year? Its not like he's disputing an increase and it's a tax for leasing government owned property/land the ?possessory interest? tax, not a property tax.

[Barry-xlovecam]

A leasehold is a personal property asset.

Appeals are made to property tax boards then sometimes a lawsuit in the courts -- we live in a litigious society.

Large industrial plant owners are notorious for this -- they bully paying less taxes for reason that they are providing good paying jobs in the community and supporting others real estate property values.

Plant and equipment (personal property accelerated depreciation or useful live valuation) are always at issue -- this goes to the argument of continued plant viability and lowered taxes so that new equipment can be easier bought -- it's a hidden taxpayer subsidy paid.

The smaller property owners that can't afford an army of 'suits' shoulder the burden.

The taxes on your home are higher because the larger industrial property owners get these tax breaks and abatements -- who did you think pays?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

A leasehold is a personal property asset.

Appeals are made to property tax boards then sometimes a lawsuit in the courts -- we live in a litigious society.

Large industrial plant owners are notorious for this -- they bully paying less taxes for reason that they are providing good paying jobs in the community and supporting others real estate property values.

Plant and equipment (personal property accelerated depreciation or useful live valuation) are always at issue -- this goes to the argument of continued plant viability and lowered taxes so that new equipment can be easier bought -- it's a hidden taxpayer subsidy paid.

The smaller property owners that can't afford an army of 'suits' shoulder the burden.

The taxes on your home are higher because the larger industrial property owners get these tax breaks and abatements -- who did you think pays?

Great point.

If the property was complete and he brought jobs and business to the community I could understand the justification of requesting to pay less.

Currently he's being investigated for not paying workers the correct wage and the reconstruction is a burden on the community, taxpayers and nearby businesses, and he wants to pay half. Doesn't make sense, especially since he paid in full last year under the same circumstances.

[Vendzilla]

So much other fun things going on in politics right now

One of the guns used in Fast and Furious turned up as used in the Paris Terrorist attack!!
Lynch has a private meeting with Bill Clinton and will probably recuse herself from the ongoing investigations against Hillary.
State department wants to postpone the email case 27 months because they're not ready.
Benghazi is not over

And Rasmussen came out today putting Trump ahead of Hillary

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So much other fun things going on in politics right now

One of the guns used in Fast and Furious turned up as used in the Paris Terrorist attack!!
Lynch has a private meeting with Bill Clinton and will probably recuse herself from the ongoing investigations against Hillary.
State department wants to postpone the email case 27 months because they're not ready.
Benghazi is not over

And Rasmussen came out today putting Trump ahead of Hillary

Todays Fox News poll shows Clinton ahead of Trump by 6 points.

Regarding the Republican created bottle neck in the state department:

106 Republican lead lawsuits against the state department aimed at Hillary and her aids with 269,000 total search requests.

If each request results in just 500 document results that's over 14 million documents that need to be indexed for each 106 lawsuits, printed, and mailed. With their limited staff they've been averaging 500 search responses a month.

Disgusting abuse of government resources and huge cost to taxpayers, just like the $7 million , 2 year Benghazi "investigation" that came up with nothing.

Regarding Bill Clinton meeting Lynch - "will probably recuse herself from the ongoing investigations against Hillary." - speculation.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So much other fun things going on in politics right now

One of the guns used in Fast and Furious turned up as used in the Paris Terrorist attack!!
Lynch has a private meeting with Bill Clinton and will probably recuse herself from the ongoing investigations against Hillary.
State department wants to postpone the email case 27 months because they're not ready.
Benghazi is not over

And Rasmussen came out today putting Trump ahead of Hillary

The polls are all over the map. There was a big collection of polls from the battle ground states released today that show Clinton beating Trump in all of those states and in some of them she is wining by 10-15%

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballotpedia%...und_poll,_2016

If these are accurate Trump is in deep shit. He has very little money and just got caught breaking the law by trying to get money from foreign sources and Hillary is swimming in cash and about to start spending $30+ million of it on ads in the battleground states.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Todays Fox News poll shows Clinton ahead of Trump by 6 points.

Regarding the Republican created bottle neck in the state department:

106 Republican lead lawsuits against the state department aimed at Hillary and her aids with 269,000 total search requests.

If each request results in just 500 document results that's over 14 million documents that need to be indexed for each 106 lawsuits, printed, and mailed. With their limited staff they've been averaging 500 search responses a month.

Disgusting abuse of government resources and huge cost to taxpayers, just like the $7 million , 2 year Benghazi "investigation" that came up with nothing.

Regarding Bill Clinton meeting Lynch - "will probably recuse herself from the ongoing investigations against Hillary." - speculation.

This is what the Republican party has become. "We are mad because we didn't get our way, so we will investigate you until we find something and then pursue that until cows fly airplanes".

This is Whitewater all over again.

I keep saying the same thing - let's take this all the way. Let's expand the investigation to include every Secretary of State for the past fifteen years. It's all digital so we should have copies, right? Let's see what dirty laundry we can turn up.

Let's start putting Republicans under oath and ask them questions about every email until we catch them in a lie.

We are spending hundreds of millions of dollars and sucking up massive amounts of resources into bullshit. We need some accountability here - if you demand an investigation and it turns out there was no crime committed, you should be forced to resign and spend a year in prison.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

The polls are all over the map. There was a big collection of polls from the battle ground states released today that show Clinton beating Trump in all of those states and in some of them she is wining by 10-15%

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballotpedia%...und_poll,_2016

If these are accurate Trump is in deep shit. He has very little money and just got caught breaking the law by trying to get money from foreign sources and Hillary is swimming in cash and about to start spending $30+ million of it on ads in the battleground states.

The polls are not all over the map, and they all have said the same thing since the beginning. Even when you compare Trump against Bernie, he still loses.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is what the Republican party has become.

......
if you demand an investigation and it turns out there was no crime committed, you should be forced to resign and spend a year in prison.

her employer, the State Department, asked the FBI to investigate her.

it's asinine to suggest there should be a penalty fee for investigating alleged crimes.

our entire system is based on innocent until proven guilty.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

This is what the Republican party has become. "We are mad because we didn't get our way, so we will investigate you until we find something and then pursue that until cows fly airplanes".

This is Whitewater all over again.

I keep saying the same thing - let's take this all the way. Let's expand the investigation to include every Secretary of State for the past fifteen years. It's all digital so we should have copies, right? Let's see what dirty laundry we can turn up.

Let's start putting Republicans under oath and ask them questions about every email until we catch them in a lie.

We are spending hundreds of millions of dollars and sucking up massive amounts of resources into bullshit. We need some accountability here - if you demand an investigation and it turns out there was no crime committed, you should be forced to resign and spend a year in prison.

Trump, and the collapse of the GOP, are why I'm not voting Republican this cycle.

The GOP has turned into what I call the three D's: Delay, Deflect, Dispute (litigation)

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The GOP has turned into what I call the three D's: Delay, Deflect, Dispute (litigation)

based on your comments you'll never vote GOP ever, why kid yourself, libby.

this is a link to loretta lynch delaying, deflecting, & disputing...not that you will read it, you've shown you only read what you want to.

but maybe just once you will be open minded & look at the sleaze you will vote for. so that you dont sound like a dumb hyopcrite when you write you wont consider GOP candidates due to 3 dumb Ds.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The polls are not all over the map, and they all have said the same thing since the beginning. Even when you compare Trump against Bernie, he still loses.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

its like you link to the nazi press corp to get reports about the jews...please dont puke on yourself when you are totally shocked trump won. how could it happen, the liberal media told me the truth? right?

#rochardsoclueless...

[kane]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The polls are not all over the map, and they all have said the same thing since the beginning. Even when you compare Trump against Bernie, he still loses.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

As a collective they aren't and many of them are similar, but when you look at that page you can seen Reuters has Clinton up by 10 points, but Rasmussen has Trump up by 4 points. a 14 point spread between two different polls done at the same time is pretty big. That is what I mean by all over the place.

In the end the general election polls don't matter a whole lot. The reality is that Clinton is likely going to win the states that the democrats always win and Trump will win the republican states. It is going to come down to who does better in the battleground states and right now Trump is not looking good there.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

...aaaaand Obama did that today for him.

So vote for people who will not do any bombing of countries who have no desire to become Westernised.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by plaster

what agenda does he have to make america very poor and inferior?

He will raise debt to levels that will make US ratings drop.

He will destroy Obamacare with nothing to replace it.

Odds on he will start a war the US can't win in the long term. He reacts with knee-jerk solutions. The first terrorist incident that comes from outside the US. Will get him foaming at the mouth and into a war.

I agree with him on migration, but a wall doesn't solve the problem and the running costs won't come from Mexico. Assuming they pay for building it.

I agree with him on imports. But the US needs to sell loan bonds and stopping cheap imports will raise your cost of living. That alone makes Americans poorer.

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So vote for people who will not do any bombing of countries who have no desire to become Westernised.

What the hell makes you even THINK I voted for Obama? LOL!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump, and the collapse of the GOP, are why I'm not voting Republican this cycle.

The GOP has turned into what I call the three D's: Delay, Deflect, Dispute (litigation)

Trump might just end up destroying the Republican party.... It's stunning that they have allowed Trump to invade their party.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

As a collective they aren't and many of them are similar, but when you look at that page you can seen Reuters has Clinton up by 10 points, but Rasmussen has Trump up by 4 points. a 14 point spread between two different polls done at the same time is pretty big. That is what I mean by all over the place.

I completely disagree. Polls are everything. It's how we as a society has gauged everything. Yes, you have some polls off to one side but over all most of them show the same exact thing and have for some time.

Originally Posted by kane

In the end the general election polls don't matter a whole lot. The reality is that Clinton is likely going to win the states that the democrats always win and Trump will win the republican states. It is going to come down to who does better in the battleground states and right now Trump is not looking good there.

This I agree with.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So now citizens can sue the city / state / federal governments to get their taxes lowered?

Yes. My parents sued their town and had their property reassessed, thus lower their taxes.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Yes. My parents sued their town and had their property reassessed, thus lower their taxes.

something to do with property worth vs taxes? ie vast discrepancy between the actual worth of property to what old data the town was trying to tax them for?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I completely disagree. Polls are everything. It's how we as a society has gauged everything. Yes, you have some polls off to one side but over all most of them show the same exact thing and have for some time.



This I agree with.

As the election wears on I think the polling will be more accurate. Right now there are still a lot of people who are undecided. They might tell one pollster they are voting for Trump then a few weeks later tell another they are voting Clinton or are undecided.

After the first debate I think the polls will be pretty much on point. At that point, baring a major problem or mistake by one of the candidates most people will have their minds made up.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by kane

As the election wears on I think the polling will be more accurate. Right now there are still a lot of people who are undecided. They might tell one pollster they are voting for Trump then a few weeks later tell another they are voting Clinton or are undecided.

After the first debate I think the polls will be pretty much on point. At that point, baring a major problem or mistake by one of the candidates most people will have their minds made up.

Most likely, yes. But Trump will need to "bring it".

Trump comes off as an arrogant bully who has no knowledge of how our government works. The fact checking sites claim 75% of what he says is pure BS. During the debates he will not only need to act presidential, but he will need to back it up with knowledge and facts.

[SuckOnThis]

Media finally does as Trump asks and shows size of crowd

True to form, Trump spent some time at Friday?s Western Conservative Summit to brag about the size of the ?tremendous crowd? that showed up for his speech, exclaiming ?Wow! That?s a good crowd of people!?

In a case of being careful what you wish for, however, conservative video site Digitas Daily did the job the media refuses to do, and compiled a video featuring side-by-side comparisons of Trump?s boasts, and views of the actual crowd:

[JamesM83]

You should see canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau say goodbye to Obama... he says it as if he's scared about future candidates

[kane]

Originally Posted by JamesM83

You should see canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau say goodbye to Obama... he says it as if he's scared about future candidates

There is a video of Obama speaking the Canadian leadership. When he finished and headed back to his seat the room started chanting, "Four more years!"

You know your choices of candidates are pretty shitty when other countries are chanting for your current president to stay.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Media finally does as Trump asks and shows size of crowd

True to form, Trump spent some time at Friday?s Western Conservative Summit to brag about the size of the ?tremendous crowd? that showed up for his speech, exclaiming ?Wow! That?s a good crowd of people!?

In a case of being careful what you wish for, however, conservative video site Digitas Daily did the job the media refuses to do, and compiled a video featuring side-by-side comparisons of Trump?s boasts, and views of the actual crowd:

You really, really hate one of the very few people who is able to disrupt the establishment don't you. Serve your masters, vote Hillary

[Relic]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

our entire system is based on innocent until proven guilty.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Trump might just end up destroying the Republican party.... It's stunning that they have allowed Trump to invade their party.

The Republican Party destroyed itself.

Originally Posted by Rochard

Most likely, yes. But Trump will need to "bring it".

Trump is an arrogant bully who has no knowledge of how our government works.

Edited to make it correct. Worse still is he has no idea how other countries work.