News Judge unseals previously unknown $250M Trump tax fraud case

[Bladewire]

Imagine that! Mr. Trump trying to avoid taxes

This should hit the MSM Monday unless the GOP convention sucks up all the air. You think they're going to end up holding him more liable for this than they previously intented die to the new evidence?

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A Manhattan judge has just unsealed documents in a civil tax fraud case connected to Donald Trump’s real estate projects. The lawsuit points to an alleged conspiracy to launder $250 million of profit from projects such as Trump SoHo in New York City. It named Felix Sater, a former Trump senior adviser who has an earlier conviction for stock fraud, Sater’s firm Bayrock Group and law firms Kramer Levin, Roberts & Holland and Duval & Stachenfeld as defendants.

“This is an important case because it not only exposes how Bayrock, while developing Trump SoHo in New York, Trump International in Fort Lauderdale, and Trump Camelback in Phoenix in association with Mr. Trump, took advantage of Delaware secrecy to arrange to siphon most of the profits out of the country untaxed, it also exposes how major law firms were willing to facilitate it,” said Frederick Oberlander, one of the lawyers representing the State’s claim.

However, state representatives said that new information “may significantly change that calculus.”

“Mr. Trump gave his consent to the transaction after receiving a full set of documentation which made clear that without it the deal would not go through. The extent of his involvement and any culpability will become clear in the course of the case. FULL STORY

[plaster]

Please stop squirt. Every time I see you post a negative trump article it makes me think of the cobwebs in hillary's vagina and a short, skinny midget with balloons jumping up and down in excitement.

[2MuchMark]

[plaster]

Originally Posted by **********

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Uggh... the guy on that show is amazingly not funny and very annoying. The girl is ok at times but seems slightly retarded as well.

It's not a good video to post to support opposition to trump. I like family guy but had no idea they were still live.

Do Canadians find that video meaningful and funny?

You switched your video mr. Prince

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by **********

[plaster]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The question of do you think it is ok to shoot people and blow them up at their doorstep was left off that video. Amazingly the trump supporters said, um, Trump didn't say that and I don't agree with that.

... does anyone in this room agree with that? The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Imagine that! Mr. Trump trying to avoid taxes

never would have guessed

[Paul Markham]

Will this election shake up the GOP enough to bring them to their senses?

After they lose by a huge margin to Hillary, will they tell their financial backers that things have to change if they want to get a candidate elected to the office of President?

Or will the sheep keep voting Republican in the elections for the two houses and America will continue to decline?

Seeing the level of real debate here on the election, I choose the former.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Will this election shake up the GOP enough to bring them to their senses?

After they lose by a huge margin to Hillary, will they tell their financial backers that things have to change if they want to get a candidate elected to the office of President?

Or will the sheep keep voting Republican in the elections for the two houses and America will continue to decline?

Seeing the level of real debate here on the election, I choose the former.

The answer is no, they will not change.

8 years ago they lost bad to Obama and in the process lost the House and Senate and left the Democrats with a super majority in the house. Did they change? No, they thought they needed to be more conservative than ever before. If it weren't for Trump, one of their most conservative members, Cruz, would be the nominee.

If they lose they will blame Trump and assume it is just a fluke. They will do the same to Hillary as they did Obama (meaning filibuster everything and bring the government to a halt) then they will blame the lack of progress on the democrats and go back to promising the same shit they always promise.

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by plaster

Please stop squirt. Every time I see you post a negative trump article it makes me think of the cobwebs in hillary's vagina and a short, skinny midget with balloons jumping up and down in excitement.

I can see that...
Imagine that, an American trying to avoid taxes. How un-American is that?

[Jigster715]

Originally Posted by plaster

The question of do you think it is ok to shoot people and blow them up at their doorstep was left off that video. Amazingly the trump supporters said, um, Trump didn't say that and I don't agree with that.

... does anyone in this room agree with that? The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind.

Both parties have a lot of policies in place that go right back to 1930's Germany.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kane

The answer is no, they will not change.

8 years ago they lost bad to Obama and in the process lost the House and Senate and left the Democrats with a super majority in the house. Did they change? No, they thought they needed to be more conservative than ever before. If it weren't for Trump, one of their most conservative members, Cruz, would be the nominee.

If they lose they will blame Trump and assume it is just a fluke. They will do the same to Hillary as they did Obama (meaning filibuster everything and bring the government to a halt) then they will blame the lack of progress on the democrats and go back to promising the same shit they always promise.

They only have power while people vote for them.

Trump has exposed a problem. Middle America, in terms of income and areas, is suffering. From loss of jobs, wages and living standards. The reasons are simple to see.

Free Trade is great if you have a workforce who works hard and cheap, yet the ability to dump goods on countries with higher incomes. It was great when the goods being imported were only clothing, not so great for those who used to make clothes. When the cheap goods close industries like steel and the goods become airplanes and space exploration parts, there's a problem.

Immigration works great if it's doctors, scientists, businessmen. It's not so good when it's people taking jobs in fast food restaurants, which have replaced jobs for those who used to making goods like clothing.

I say not good. For the top 10%, it works great. Until their jobs start to be exported. And they will, in fact already are being exported. Eventually, The First World drops in buying power and a few in the Third World replace them. Not as many, but for the 1% that's not the aim.

We need to vote out those who only represent the few. Be they big corporations or big government like the EU.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Tax cheat in chief? Trump just evades the subject with bullshit. So, who knows?

The art of the Flim-Flam.


When Mr. Trump was asked on ABC?s ?Good Morning America? whether he thought voters had a right to see his returns, he replied, ?I don?t think they do.?

Mr. Trump added of his taxes: ?It?s under routine audit. When the audit ends, I?m going to present them. That should be before the election. I hope it?s before the election.?

But when asked by the interviewer, George Stephanopoulos, what effective tax rate he pays, Mr. Trump said, ?It?s none of your business.? He added, ?You?ll see it when I release, but I fight very hard to pay as little tax as possible.?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Imagine that! Mr. Trump trying to avoid taxes

This should hit the MSM Monday unless the GOP convention sucks up all the air. You think they're going to end up holding him more liable for this than they previously intented die to the new evidence?

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A Manhattan judge has just unsealed documents in a civil tax fraud case connected to Donald Trump?s real estate projects. The lawsuit points to an alleged conspiracy to launder $250 million of profit from projects such as Trump SoHo in New York City. It named Felix Sater, a former Trump senior adviser who has an earlier conviction for stock fraud, Sater?s firm Bayrock Group and law firms Kramer Levin, Roberts & Holland and Duval & Stachenfeld as defendants.

?This is an important case because it not only exposes how Bayrock, while developing Trump SoHo in New York, Trump International in Fort Lauderdale, and Trump Camelback in Phoenix in association with Mr. Trump, took advantage of Delaware secrecy to arrange to siphon most of the profits out of the country untaxed, it also exposes how major law firms were willing to facilitate it,? said Frederick Oberlander, one of the lawyers representing the State?s claim.

However, state representatives said that new information ?may significantly change that calculus.?

?Mr. Trump gave his consent to the transaction after receiving a full set of documentation which made clear that without it the deal would not go through. The extent of his involvement and any culpability will become clear in the course of the case. FULL STORY

not sure why this is news worthy... ALL business try and avoid taxes. even the Clintons and berrine sanders... my experience from face book is the more liberal someone is the sleazier stuff they pull

[arock10]

Why is it civil and not criminal?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

They only have power while people vote for them.

Trump has exposed a problem. Middle America, in terms of income and areas, is suffering. From loss of jobs, wages and living standards. The reasons are simple to see.

Free Trade is great if you have a workforce who works hard and cheap, yet the ability to dump goods on countries with higher incomes. It was great when the goods being imported were only clothing, not so great for those who used to make clothes. When the cheap goods close industries like steel and the goods become airplanes and space exploration parts, there's a problem.

Immigration works great if it's doctors, scientists, businessmen. It's not so good when it's people taking jobs in fast food restaurants, which have replaced jobs for those who used to making goods like clothing.

I say not good. For the top 10%, it works great. Until their jobs start to be exported. And they will, in fact already are being exported. Eventually, The First World drops in buying power and a few in the Third World replace them. Not as many, but for the 1% that's not the aim.

We need to vote out those who only represent the few. Be they big corporations or big government like the EU.

And therein is the problem. Everyone bitches that all the candidates are the same and nothing ever changes, yet they insist on voting for the same people over and over again.

Congress had a horrible 10% approval rating going into the last election yet they had a 95% re-election rate.

The only way things will change is is term limits are put in place so that people are forced to vote for someone else or if something very bad happens and out of it a different type of leader or party emerges. Short of that we will continue this cycle for a while.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by arock10

Why is it civil and not criminal?

I thought the same thing, just like when the DOJ charged him, and the federal judge found him guilty of, breaking federal antitrust laws, he just had to pay $750k to stay out of jail.

[Hannes]

Why does he evade paying axes? because he is Trump...
Is this a good excuse? no. He steals money from people and then complains how Hillary is such a bad person for what she did. Everyone has something they dint want people to find out.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by plaster

Please stop squirt. Every time I see you post a negative trump article it makes me think of the cobwebs in hillary's vagina and a short, skinny midget with balloons jumping up and down in excitement.

the brainwashed hillary slave is obsessed with trump bash articles.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by nico-t

the brainwashed hillary slave is obsessed with trump bash articles.

Whatever Woulter. Legal matters regarding candidates isn't bashing and notice that I don't have to call people names to make a point, the facts speak for themselves. Who's the president of NL? or you have a royal family? Don't know don't care ❤

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by kane

And therein is the problem. Everyone bitches that all the candidates are the same and nothing ever changes, yet they insist on voting for the same people over and over again.

Congress had a horrible 10% approval rating going into the last election yet they had a 95% re-election rate.

The only way things will change is is term limits are put in place so that people are forced to vote for someone else or if something very bad happens and out of it a different type of leader or party emerges. Short of that we will continue this cycle for a while.

In Europe, politicians are overwhelmingly for the EU. The majority of people are very anti. The UK is the first to vote OUT, there will be more. If Governments don't offer referendums, the people will change the Governments.

If only America was that democratic and the land of the free and brave.

The saddest part is people think Rand Paul is a solution.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Whatever Woulter. Legal matters regarding candidates isn't bashing and notice that I don't have to call people names to make a point, the facts speak for themselves. Who's the president of NL? or you have a royal family? Don't know don't care ❤

who the fuck is Woulter