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Old 07-22-2016, 06:23 AM   #1
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Alcohol is a direct cause of seven ​​forms of cancer, finds study

Analysis implicates alcohol in development of breast, liver and other types of cancer and says even moderate consumption is a risk


Alcohol causes seven forms of cancer, and people consuming even low to moderate amounts are at risk, according to new analysis.

Health experts endorsed the findings and said they showed that ministers should initiate more education campaigns in order to tackle widespread public ignorance about how closely alcohol and cancer are connected. The study sparked renewed calls for regular drinkers to be encouraged to take alcohol-free days, and for alcohol packaging to carry warning labels.

Fresh analysis of evidence accumulated over recent years implicates alcohol in the development of breast, colon, liver and other types of cancer.

The study, published in the scientific journal Addiction, concludes that there is more than simply a link or statistical association between alcohol and cancer that could be explained by something else. There is now enough credible evidence to say conclusively that drinking is a direct cause of the disease, according to Jennie Connor, of the preventive and social medicine department at Otago University in New Zealand.

?There is strong evidence that alcohol causes cancer at seven sites in the body and probably others,? Connor said. ?Even without complete knowledge of biological mechanisms [of how alcohol causes cancer], the epidemiological evidence can support the judgment that alcohol causes cancer of the oropharynx, larynx, oesophagus, liver, colon, rectum and breast.?

Growing evidence suggested that alcohol was also likely to cause skin, prostate and pancreatic cancer, she added. Emphasising that a drinker?s risk increased in relation to the amount consumed, Connor said: ?For all these there is a dose-response relationship.?

Connor arrived at her conclusions after studying reviews undertaken over the past 10 years by the World Cancer Research Fund, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, the World Health Organisation?s cancer body, and other authoritative bodies.

?The highest risks are associated with the heaviest drinking but a considerable burden is experienced by drinkers with low to moderate consumption, due to the distribution of drinking in the population,? Connor said. Campaigns to reduce alcohol consumption should therefore try to encourage everyone to cut down, as targeting only heavy drinkers had ?limited potential? to reduce alcohol-related cancer, she added.

In February Prof Dame Sally Davies, the chief medical officer for England, caused a stir by warning women that drinking alcohol could cause breast cancer. She told a parliamentary hearing: ?Do as I do when I reach for my glass of wine. Think: do I want the glass of wine or do I want to raise my own risk of breast cancer? I take a decision each time I have a glass.?

Davies played a key role in drawing up new government guidelines on safe drinking limits, published in January, which recommended that men reduce their maximum weekly intake of alcohol from 21 to 14 units, or seven pints of beer a week, which is the longstanding threshold that women are advised not to exceed.

The growing evidence of alcohol?s role in causing cancer, underlined by a report by the UK Committee on Carcinogenicity, was a key reason behind Davies and her counterparts in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland issuing advice that some said was impractical and would be ignored. Sticking to the new guidelines would help keep drinkers? risk of cancer low, the proponents said.

Dr Jana Witt, Cancer Research UK?s health information officer, said: ?We know that nine in 10 people aren?t aware of the link between alcohol and cancer. And this review is a stark reminder that there?s strong evidence linking the two.?

A recent CRUK study found that when people were shown a list of different cancers, only one in five of them knew that breast cancer could be caused by drinking, compared to four out of five people who knew that alcohol could cause liver cancer.

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That depends on the type of alcohol you drink and on its quality. For example, the famous long-livers of Caucasus who live up to 168 years and have almost no medicine in their distant mountains. They eat a lot of meat (e.g. shashlik) and drink wine instead of water from a very-very young age.







BTW: Heavy Drinkers Outlive Nondrinkers, Study Finds - TIME
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Do you really need to post this when my weekend starts and I just got my first drink..

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Do you really need to post this when my weekend starts and I just got my first drink..

Hahaha i just had my post dinner glass of whisky and cigarette, currently contemplating if I should go out and destroy myself or stay at home. Worst time ever to post this stuff
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LOL 168 years!! Dude.

Yes, they live a long time, mostly due to the fact that they have good healthy diets and good genes, with exersize. 168 years, not so much. The longest verified life is that of Jeanne Calment
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That depends on the type of alcohol you drink and on its quality. For example, the famous long-livers of Caucasus who live up to 168 years and have almost no medicine in their distant mountains. They eat a lot of meat (e.g. shashlik) and drink wine instead of water from a very-very young age.
I know my limits, and they are very very modest.
Long gone the days of severe hangovers. That was pretty poisonous and stupid, nothing healthy or great about it.

I'm sure alcohol inside one's body does no better than if one were to pour some medical alcohol on their skin - it makes it feel dry, dehydrated. exactly the same effect inside.
If you stay constantly dehydrated and then do several shots of vodka, for instance, you may feel the same dryness in your head - very bad for brains and psyche. i believe it still does damage brains over long time regardless being hydrated.

PS Imho, Russia's main problem isn't Putin or Gov., Russia's main problem is heavy drinking. Got to stop cultivating alcoholism and extreme drinking - it simply weakens men, then things will start brightening up for all around.
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before any one dies of boredom, don't they go insane first? - it then becomes quite a ride
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LOL 168 years!! Dude.
That's not from my own archive. I just gave a link.
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PS Imho, Russia's main problem isn't Putin or Gov., Russia's main problem is heavy drinking.
A very naive subsumption. Have you been to the UK? Those guys drink 10x times more than any Russian can even survive. Sure alcohol is a problem here, especially in the villages, but the youth in large Russian cities don't drink. Yes, not at all, of course, but in comparison to my generation, they are very different about alcohol. They simple don't like it. Wanna see some drunk herd? Go to Dublin - believe me, you won't see something even similar here.
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A very naive subsumption. Have you been to the UK? Those guys drink 10x times more than any Russian can even survive. Sure alcohol is a problem here, especially in the villages, but the youth in large Russian cities don't drink. Yes, not at all, of course, but in comparison to my generation, they are very different about alcohol. They simple don't like it. Wanna see some drunk herd? Go to Dublin - believe me, you won't see something even similar here.
I agree that in younger, modern generations in some circles and cities people are smarter about alcohol. But lets be honest, you want to tell me Russian Federation doesn't have hazardous health issue due to drinking habits as a nation as whole? Is there a more popular product with great variety to choose from than alcohol in RU? Supermarkets are loaded with liquor, small corner shops - first thing you see are wall shells full of bottles. It is best selling product. People drink with or without occasion, to celebrate and ton of time when they are down.

Drunks are drunks, no matter where ever they are. Russians don't need to get in large drunk herds, they do that very successfully in private settings. Thing is Dublin's people I assume are able to stay somehow and somewhat productive. Russians on the other hand have almost nothing to lose - no life, no future, nothing. surely it must effect drinking approach to a greater extreme.
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I agree that in younger, modern generations in some circles and cities people are smarter about alcohol. But lets be honest, you want to tell me Russian Federation doesn't have hazardous health issue due to drinking habits as a nation as whole?
As I said above, even my generation doesn't drink that much as the UK people. Do you think that alcohol is a danger to the UK nation? I though their main danger are rapefugees...

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Is there a more popular product with great variety to choose from than alcohol in RU? Supermarkets are loaded with liquor, small corner shops - first thing you see are wall shells full of bottles. It is best selling product. People drink with or without occasion, to celebrate and ton of time when they are down.
Yes it is. The same you will see in almost every European country. For example, in Czech republic you can buy alcohol right on the street (BTW, according to the stats, they also drink more than Russians) which is impossible in Russia. So what?

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Productive??? A whole city is drunk as shit every fuckin' Friday. Believe me or not, but that's true.



And this is not a police news report. That's their usual condition.

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Are you an idiot? Maybe you live on the Moon? What do you mean on "nothing to lose"? No life or no future in Russia? I don't know which hole you live in, but I bet it's a real sad, ugly and hopeless place comparing to my city.



It's my city from a q-copter view. Where are those drunk people with no life and no future? Show me at least one.

P.S. You've never been to the modern Russia, right?
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ok, CyberSEO, according to your arguments, RU doesn't have a drinking problem, that's fine. me as an idiot loves your logic pointing to other places to support your view and going low to calling names, you sound sober, clear minded man! Also happy to hear that life in russia is a no anywhere near being fucked up for an average citizen and that you all flying copters, drinking fine bottles and living 168 years enjoying life eating shashlik while being jealous somewhat of your drunk Dublin boddy's as they seem to get more fucked up collectively than you's.


Keep drinking as a nation - nothing will change for the better in your country. no matter what others do elsewhere.
- this is purely my opinion.
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ok, CyberSEO, according to your arguments, RU doesn't have a drinking problem, that's fine.
It has. But the problem is not that huge as your media shows it. At least in the UK is problem is much more serious than here.

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Hmm, you just said that I have almost nothing to lose - no life, no future, nothing. Do you think it's ok to speak this way? What do you know about my life?

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As you say, mister expert. However you didn't answer to my question: have you been to the modern Russia?

It's easy to be a sofa expert, who watches TV shows, reads wikipedia and makes bold conclusions about live in some particular countries w/o visiting them. Personally I love to travel and I've seen a lot of countries from inside. First of all, the "news" can not trick me about the places where I've been to. The second thing is that I really haven't seen a better city than Moscow - if I stay anywhere else for more than two weeks, I want to back home. Maybe it does exist somewhere, but I don't know where to go for it. Maybe you will tell me?
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It has. But the problem is not that huge as your media shows it. At least in the UK is problem is much more serious than here.



Hmm, you just said that I have almost nothing to lose - no life, no future, nothing. Do you think it's ok to speak this way? What do you know about my life?



As you say, mister expert. However you didn't answer to my question: have you been to the modern Russia?

It's easy to be a sofa expert, who watches TV shows, reads wikipedia and makes bold conclusions about live in some particular countries w/o visiting them. Personally I love to travel and I've seen a lot of countries from inside. First of all, the "news" can not trick me about the places where I've been to. The second thing is that I really haven't seen a better city than Moscow - if I stay anywhere else for more than two weeks, I want to back home. Maybe it does exist somewhere, but I don't know where to go for it. Maybe you will tell me?
i don't need to watch TV to know that russians drink too much too carelessly in most circles in their homeland and abroad.
you took "almost have no life" too literally and personal.
a guy who has an average low salary to barely meet ends, great if paid on time, with no perspective in career growth; a scandalous wife wanting him to do better and be more engaged with family and kids; fucked up relatives; day to day constant problems, bureaucracy BS, etc; what future? and there is also his buddies with whom he constantly get together to discuss global problems passing some shots, bottle after bottle, day after day. - please tell me its a media's fantazy that brainwashed into me this picture. if not, is this life?
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a guy who has an average low salary to barely meet ends, great if paid on time, with no perspective in career growth; a scandalous wife wanting him to do better and be more engaged with family and kids; fucked up relatives; day to day constant problems, bureaucracy BS, etc; what future? and there is also his buddies with whom he constantly get together to discuss global problems passing some shots, bottle after bottle, day after day. - please tell me its a media's fantazy that brainwashed into me this picture. if not, is this life?
I didn't get it, really. Is that your personal life story or it was copied from the "Married with Children" show? How does it relate to me or to any other particular Russian? Sure there are people whom your life story applies to, but it works for any country on the planet. Losers are everywhere. Not because their country is bad, but because they are losers.
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you didn't get my point

i'd love to see slovak people do better and have better lifestyles.
but as a matter of fact, average lifestyle now of a typical russian person is very poor. Or you don't agree with this?

people like to blame everything and anything but themselves, for instance, people suffer and have poor conditions because government is bad.

All i'm saying while russians cultivate drinking, and yes they do, nothing will change - and yes, i'm aware this is not a popular view. I've noticed everyone get defensive about their drinking habits, when I mention it LOL. But reality is simple, want a better lifestyle, change something, drinking habit is a good start, get yourself (not you CyberSEO) clear minded and healthy and more opportunities will be opening up. Russia would be far better if it drunk less. That is all! Why are you arguing CyberSEO? or there is no Russia outside of MSK?
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but as a matter of fact, average lifestyle now of a typical russian person is very poor. Or you don't agree with this?
Of course I don't agree. Do you really going to compare life in Russia with some Slovaks, Albanians or Somalians? You are kidding, right?

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No they don't. A consumption of vodka has dropped for 40% during last couple of years only. You watch TV, but I live here.

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There are SBP, Eburg, Ufa, Kazan etc... Millions of people live in those cities. Actually about 20% of Russian people live in MSK + SPB only.
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i'm an idiot, but you are drunk idiot =)

aren't russians slovak people?

life in russia is super great, there is no issues and no drinking problem, everything is peachy. need to get together to celebrate and drink to it!
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I don't know what you drink or smoke, but Russians are not Slovaks. Russians are Slavs (FYI Slovaks are Slavs too). Please go back to your meth or what you do, I won't answer to your further posts while you'll get sober tomorrow (I hope).

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Seems Russia has a drinking problem. You do have some great ethnic pride though
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ok, "slav" people, my bad, thought you would get it first time though

i'm not nationalist too, while i spoke about russian people i wanted to include all eastern europe people. drinking issue is deeply rooted among many slav people. call me names all you want but while vodka and beer are top selling products in your region, life for most there will be not so great - this is too plain and obvious imo. it's good for politics though, weak minded people and some level of inflated egos and country stays a shithole (meaning: poorly and recklessly managed and taken advantage of people and budgets for private gains).

btw i've never attacked you and had no intent.

with healthier, stronger, sober minds your country could be better and my country could be better. I simply figured what was main problem for your region and simply shared my opinion as it was fitting early in the thread. you say drinking problems isn't a big deal, that's fine, I see it differently. gonna keep arguing?
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Seems Russia has a drinking problem. You do have some great ethnic pride though
I don't believe to wikipedia. I know that alcohol consumption is very high Russia, but there are many countries (e.g. UK, Estonia, Czech Republic, Ireland etc) that drink much more but they are not listed above. How come?

Actually there is a ton of such lists and every one of them has its own top - they all different, of course. E.g. this: At last, Britain's a world leader again (unfortunately it's in drinking alcohol) or this: World's 10 best drinking nations - CNN.com - the Great Britain is ahead of the World for drinking. So what?

As about ethnic pride, you should be the last one to speak about it. A nation of meth blames people who prefer alcohol? Don't make me laugh please

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lol

it's easy to say Russian nation are drunks
not that easy to say USA are methheads

guess why?
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Actually the story about drunken Russians is a same sort like a story of bears with balalaika and babushka on Russian streets. This story is a commercial product for foreigns like matryoshka. I don't what to say that Russians don't like to drink. They like it a lot, but still much less than the UK people for example.

In big cities an average employee is sober all the year long except for corporatives... These are crazy holidays (a couple times a year) when a company where you work buys a restaurant for a night. If you have never been to any, I'll try to describe it as a real madness and endless alcohol rally. It's a place where everybody does absolutely nasty things (wanna get laid with the sexy accountant Sveta - here you go, man!) I've been to a couple of corporatives in 90's when I was working in some offline company and I can tell you - everything you can see on the videos is truth (90% of the real action is just not acceptable according to the youtube TOS)...

They start like this:





Continue like this:





And they end up like [consored], because what happens in corporative stays in corporative...

People here calls its a RESET, when they work all the year w/o any vacations or rest, having no time for a personal life or even for a casual sex (especially for women which are majority in Russia - there is a lack of men here), they use those few days in a year to get it all. Once again, they are not alcoholics because they don't drink every day or every week or every month, but when they've got a chance.. they've got drunk into shit.
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Everything in moderation. Hell so much shit in today's life can kill you.
What can I say I like my wine.....in moderation of course
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Everything in moderation. Hell so much shit in today's life can kill you.
What can I say I like my wine.....in moderation of course
Actually even a usual milk can be a cancerogen today.
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That depends on the type of alcohol you drink and on its quality. For example, the famous long-livers of Caucasus who live up to 168 years and have almost no medicine in their distant mountains. They eat a lot of meat (e.g. shashlik) and drink wine instead of water from a very-very young age.







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Unfortunately wine drinkers are at risk for lots of issues these days. Arsenic levels in cheap wines like two buck chuck are extremely high. If you consume two glasses per day, not a problem. But if you consume the entire bottle you are going to begin to store it in your body. Add in rice and the fact that many major brands of beer now use rice instead of other cereals and you have lots of chances to feel like total shit because of what is acceptable levels when everyone knows we are breaking those guidelines.

The same goes for many foods with acceptable levels of carcinogens at the recommended portions, but people don't stop there. And even if you do, you are eating five things per day with these issues, so you are going overboard even when you think you are in control.

Have a nice cancer!
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Unfortunately wine drinkers are at risk for lots of issues these days. Arsenic levels in cheap wines like two buck chuck are extremely high. If you consume two glasses per day, not a problem. But if you consume the entire bottle you are going to begin to store it in your body. Add in rice and the fact that many major brands of beer now use rice instead of other cereals and you have lots of chances to feel like total shit because of what is acceptable levels when everyone knows we are breaking those guidelines.

The same goes for many foods with acceptable levels of carcinogens at the recommended portions, but people don't stop there. And even if you do, you are eating five things per day with these issues, so you are going overboard even when you think you are in control.

Have a nice cancer!
So the only way to avoid arsenic, nitrates, pesticides, fusel oil and other shit is to drink... Vodka, which is known as the most clear alcohol w/o supplements. At least if you drink a bottle of good Vodka, you will wake up vigorous (yep, almost ;)) If you drink a bottle of good Whiskey you will wake up like a piece of shit with a deadly headache.

P.S. When I'm talking about good Whiskey, I don't mean all that horse piss for rednecks like JW Red Label, Jack Daniels, White Horse etc. The bottom level of good Whiskey starts at 12 y/o Chivas Regal and Bushmills.
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