Wikileaks releases the Shillary Clinton Wall Street Speeches

[Coup]

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/11011

They can be downloaded from the attachment tab

[BaldBastard]

So the leak show that:

Hillary wants to build better relationships with Russia but Putin has rejected any attempts

She say's covert operations in foreign countries used to be much easier till the mobile phone came along

And she stand's up in front of Goldman Sachs and warns them if Wall street does not clean up their act she will invoke laws that will make them.

[plaster]

Nevermind, deleted post.

Anything good in them like the American people are inherently stupid?

[Coup]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

So the leak show that:

Hillary wants to build better relationships with Russia but Putin has rejected any attempts

They reject her because Russia wants to protect the assad regime in Syria

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

She say's covert operations in foreign countries used to be much easier till the mobile phone came along

She openly discusses covertly supporting the Islamic radicals that are working towards destroying the Assad regime.

So the problem for the US and the
Europeans has been from the very beginning: What
is it you -- who is it you are going to try to arm?
And you probably read in the papers my view was we
should try to find some of the groups that were
there that we thought we could build relationships
with and develop some covert connections that might
then at least give us some insight into what is
going on inside Syria.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by plaster

Nevermind, deleted post.

Anything good in them like the American people are inherently stupid?

Still reading through them off and on. She seems to think the Saudis would want to acquire nukes because in her words "They are a particularly unstable regime."

Which is hilarious seeing that she has pocketed so much of their money.

[Coup]

So I mean, I am constantly amazed at
how attention deficit disordered the political
punditry is.

lol. If they weren't you wouldn't have a political career, Hilldogg.

Our political press has just been
captured by trivia. I mean, to me. And so you
don't want to give them any more time to trivialize
the importance of the issues than you have to give
them. You want to be able to wait as long as
possible, because hopefully we will actually see
some progress on immigration, for example.

We now know why she hides from the press. It's because her campaign only works with those favorable to her behind the scenes.

[Coup]

So I think the way our system is supposed to work is if, by next November, people running for office are either defending or not the Affordable Care Act, it will be an electoral issue. And if it is still unacceptable to people or not running right, then the Congress that will come in after, will have every right in the world to go after it and figure out what they can do.
Now, if they still have a Democratic President in the White House, who may not want to go as far as some would, in fact, I'm sure of that, but then there can be a discussion about, okay, what worked and what didn't work.

Anyone think Obama care is great and needs to be expanded? because that's pretty much what she's proposing now. There certainly has not been a rational discussion about it in this election.

[Coup]

One thing is for sure, this is a woman that is bound and determined to stick her nose into every aspect of the affairs of the entire world. Under Hillary, If we don't end up in a war with Russia or China it would be a fucking miracle.

[Coup]

So how Egypt navigates through this next six to 12 months is crucial for the entire region. There are a lot of proxy battles going on, you know, there's proxy battles between the Saudis and the Iranis and the Jordanians and the Iranians and the Turks and, you know, it goes on and on, and you can look at individual countries and try to sort out who is on what side.

All of our supposed allies (iran excluded) in the middle east are waging proxy battles.

[Coup]

So in Egypt, the election of Morsi was not by any means an overwhelming mandate, in fact, it was a rather small turnout in the second election. And instead of recognizing that, Morsi and the Freedom and Justice Party, which was the political arm of the Muslim Brotherhood, really began to try to consolidate their own games.
And again, I -- kind of the manual for foreign policy is, you know, human nature. People had been on the outs, they've been in prison, they've been abused under Mubarak. They won an election in part because the other side was so poorly organized and would not get their act together, despite our best efforts to encourage them to.
So they think, okay, we want to now get all our people, you know, give them the position in the government, make the decisions that will please our supporters. They ignored the economy. They wouldn't make the tough decisions that the IMF was demanding for many months, still to this day, and they began to do things which really raised concerns among the vast majority of nonactive Islamists in Egypt. And you all know that the military then basically came in, but they had a 22 million signature petition asking them to, so it was all very unusual.

I guess we know why they showed so much support for the arab spring. Gotta get the IMF paid.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-morsi-crisis

[Dvae]

Coup you have it all wrong! Donald Trump is the one we must fear.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Dvae

Coup you have it all wrong! Donald Trump is the one we must fear.

Her love of covert intervention reminds me of Reagan. This woman is Ronald Reagan on steroids. And as we all well know covert intervention hasn't worked out so well for us in the long term.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Coup

Her love of covert intervention reminds me of Reagan. This woman is Ronald Reagan on steroids. And as we all well know covert intervention hasn't worked out so well for us in the long term.

OOP's did I forget the <sarcasm> tags?

[Coup]

If you look at what's happening in Syria, it's clearly a multiply leveled proxy battle. We've got Iran with their agents in Hezbollah, and they're being taken on by indigenous rebels but increasingly a collection of Jihadists who are funded by the Saudis, funded by the Emiratis, funded by Gotter (phonetic), and you have the Turks that were very active in the beginning, but then began to be concerned by some of the development inside Syria, particularly among the northern and northeastern Kurdish population in Syria.

Hmm, yes. this is definitely a fire we want to throw gas on. Let's arm the kurds, she says!

[onwebcam]

Funny thing is WL is only roughly 12k in to 50k+ and they get juicier everyday. I wonder if the last 30k are the deleted emails? They are making the media's heads spin and they don't know what to do with all this shit.. But they are being forced to report on it.

This was 3 days ago. More have been exposed since.

Top 10 Hillary Clinton scandals exposed by WikiLeaks - Washington Times

Clinton is standing by one promise. Jobs, because shitloads of people are on payroll right now reading all the goods.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Dvae

OOP's did I forget the <sarcasm> tags?

It wasn't needed. I understood the sarcasm in your post.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Funny thing is WL is only roughly 12k in to 50k+ and they get juicier everyday. I wonder if the last 30k are the deleted emails? They are making the media's heads spin and they don't know what to do with all this shit.. But they are being forced to report on it.

One things for sure.. They can't keep ignoring it hoping it will go away. Hopefully, with how insulting and dismissive she is about the press in these speeches, it will light a fire under their asses and they will get to work on this. That is, if they hope to hold on to the shred of credibility they have left.

[Coup]

And with political people, again, I would say the same thing, you know, there was a lot of complaining about Dodd-Frank, but there was also a need to do something because for political reasons, if you were an elected member of Congress and people in your constituency were losing jobs and shutting businesses and everybody in the press is saying it's all the fault of Wall Street, you can't sit idly by and do nothing, but what you do is really important.
And I think the jury is still out on that because it was very difficult to sort of sort through it all.
And, of course, I don't, you know, I know that banks and others were worried about continued liability and other problems down the road, so it would be better if we could have had a more open exchange about what we needed to do to fix what had broken and then try to make sure it didn't happen again, but we will keep working on it.
MR. O'NEILL: By the way, we really did appreciate when you were the senator from New York and your continued involvement in the issues (inaudible) to be courageous in some respects to associated with Wall Street and this environment. Thank you very much.
SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I don't feel particularly courageous. I mean, if we're going to be an effective, efficient economy, we need to have all part of that engine running well, and that includes Wall Street and Main Street.

None of her position on wall street then sounds at all like the "We have to take on the big banks!" firebrand that Hillary Clinton pretends to be now

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/brief...cial-industry/

[bronco67]

This will be another one of those things where conservatives think they have something, and will say "hey, look at this."

Everyone will look and say "nothing to see here".

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Coup

One things for sure.. They can't keep ignoring it hoping it will go away. Hopefully, with how insulting and dismissive she is about the press in these speeches, it will light a fire under their asses and they will get to work on this. That is, if they hope to hold on to the shred of credibility they have left.

Try Grab Pussy instead of Trump Sex

[Coup]

Originally Posted by bronco67

This will be another one of those things where conservatives think they have something, and will say "hey, look at this."

Everyone will look and say "nothing to see here".

It will surprise no one that you, and folks like you that do not value the truth about who Hillary Clinton actually is, will turn a blind eye to this. But those that are not complete sycophants will see that all of these Clinton wikileaks paint a pretty disturbing picture about not only Hillary, but how our government and media work as a whole.

[Coup]

Say what you will about the intelligence of Trump supporters. But, at least they are smart enough to recognize that none of the shit that is going on is OK.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Try Grab Pussy instead of Trump Sex

Why? Either show show a similar pattern. There's a much larger interest in the wikileaks story and it's clear that the Trump "scandal" isn't gaining nearly as much traction. That's why I think you'll see ratings minded press orgs shifting focus to it.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

So the leak show that:

Hillary wants to build better relationships with Russia but Putin has rejected any attempts

She say's covert operations in foreign countries used to be much easier till the mobile phone came along

And she stand's up in front of Goldman Sachs and warns them if Wall street does not clean up their act she will invoke laws that will make them.

Why Putin hates Hillary

Behind the allegations of a Russian hack of the DNC is the Kremlin leader's fury at Clinton for challenging the fairness of Russian elections.

Read more: Why Putin hates Hillary - POLITICO

"Americans voting for a president on Nov. 8 must realize that they are voting for peace on Planet Earth if they vote for Trump. But if they vote for Hillary it's war. It will be a short movie. There will be Hiroshimas and Nagasakis everywhere."

Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war | Reuters

[Rochard]

So far these emails have nothing of interest in them.... Pretty much standard and routine.

[kane]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Why Putin hates Hillary

Behind the allegations of a Russian hack of the DNC is the Kremlin leader's fury at Clinton for challenging the fairness of Russian elections.

Read more: Why Putin hates Hillary - POLITICO

"Americans voting for a president on Nov. 8 must realize that they are voting for peace on Planet Earth if they vote for Trump. But if they vote for Hillary it's war. It will be a short movie. There will be Hiroshimas and Nagasakis everywhere."

Putin ally tells Americans: vote Trump or face nuclear war | Reuters

In the interest of full disclosure, that quote comes from a high-ranking member of then Russian administration who is very close to Putin and not a U.S. journalist.

You have to ask yourself why the Russians would prefer Trump. Is it because they really think he would have peace in mind and would work with them to keep world peace or is it because they know they can control Trump?

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So far these emails have nothing of interest in them.... Pretty much standard and routine.

Not surprising at all that Bagdad Bob understands none of the implications of any of this.


If I were more conspiracy minded I would accuse you of being an outright paid shill at this point. LOL.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by kane

In the interest of full disclosure, that quote comes from a high-ranking member of then Russian administration who is very close to Putin and not a U.S. journalist.

You have to ask yourself why the Russians would prefer Trump. Is it because they really think he would have peace in mind and would work with them to keep world peace or is it because they know they can control Trump?

If the current media narrative is true about the Russians taking the UNPRECEDENTED step of meddling with our elections it's for a very good reason. They are not going to allow us to continue over throwing regimes in the middle east. Especially not their ally Syria. We now know, beyond a shadow of a doubt this is what Hillary is going to do. They don't want war with the unitied states and it's plainly obvious why they don't want Hillary in office. She is going to fuck with Syria and the Russians (along with turkey) will be forced to retaliate if she follows through with her stated plan to arm the syrian kurds.

They have drawn a line in the sand and Hillary has announced publicly and in these wikileaks that she intends to cross it. We are headed full speed into a very dangerous situation and the Rochard's of the world refuse to see it. Not out of just sheer stupidity, out of something much worse... WILLFUL IGNORANCE.

[plaster]

Originally Posted by kane

In the interest of full disclosure, that quote comes from a high-ranking member of then Russian administration who is very close to Putin and not a U.S. journalist.

You have to ask yourself why the Russians would prefer Trump. Is it because they really think he would have peace in mind and would work with them to keep world peace or is it because they know they can control Trump?

Ask yourself this...

Hillary Clinton enabled Putin to control 20% US uranium. Why is Putin now so mad at hillary? Sounds like a deal that went south to me. Like he was supposed to have option to buy more stake and she instead, sold to the next highest bidder.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Coup

If the current media narrative is true about the Russians taking the UNPRECEDENTED step of meddling with our elections it's for a very good reason. They are not going to allow us to continue over throwing regimes in the middle east. Especially not their ally Syria. We now know, beyond a shadow of a doubt this is what Hillary is going to do. They don't want war with the unitied states and it's plainly obvious why they don't want Hillary in office. She is going to fuck with Syria and the Russians (along with turkey) will be forced to retaliate if she follows through with her stated plan to arm the syrian kurds.

They have drawn a line in the sand and Hillary has announced publicly and in these wikileaks that she intends to cross it. We are headed full speed into a very dangerous situation and the Rochard's of the world refuse to see it. Not out of just sheer stupidity, out of something much worse... WILLFUL IGNORANCE.

Perhaps Putin doesn't like us overthrowing Middle East regimes because he wants to do just that. There is a lot of oil there. Both the US and Russia want it. They likely think Trump will be easier to get it from.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Coup

Not surprising at all that Bagdad Bob understands none of the implications of any of this.


If I were more conspiracy minded I would accuse you of being an outright paid shill at this point. LOL.

I seem to understand the implications of the emails perfectly.... They are nothing exciting and aren't damaging at all. The polls seem to back me up. At this point, ALL of the polls put Clinton ahead by a large margin: RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

[kane]

Originally Posted by plaster

Ask yourself this...

Hillary Clinton enabled Putin to control 20% US uranium. Why is Putin now so mad at hillary? Sounds like a deal that went south to me. Like he was supposed to have option to buy more stake and she instead, sold to the next highest bidder.

So they think Trump will sell them more?

[Coup]

Originally Posted by kane

Perhaps Putin doesn't like us overthrowing Middle East regimes because he wants to do just that. There is a lot of oil there. Both the US and Russia want it. They likely think Trump will be easier to get it from.

Your argument doesn't hold water. Russia doesn't need Oil and Gas. Exporting it is the backbone of their economy. They clearly have MUCH more than they need.

Oil and natural gas sales accounted for 68% of Russia?s total export revenues in 2013 - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

[kane]

As far as the search terms go.

Try this
https://www.google.com/trends/explor...rump,wikileaks

This is comparing the terms wikileaks and trump in the US only over the last 7 days.

Ask yourself what that huge spike on the 9th was.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I seem to understand the implications of the emails perfectly

"Nothing of interest -- simply routine"

Fuck off. LMAO.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by kane

In the interest of full disclosure, that quote comes from a high-ranking member of then Russian administration who is very close to Putin and not a U.S. journalist.

You have to ask yourself why the Russians would prefer Trump. Is it because they really think he would have peace in mind and would work with them to keep world peace or is it because they know they can control Trump?

Coup already answered the reason. Her and Obama started this Syria shit and she intends to finish it. Much like Bush Jr did with his fathers mess. That worked out well for us. In addition, you REALLY have to start looking at these people differently. The Bush's have had something against the American people for about 70 years. What's that you ask? Prescott Bush had all of the family money and businesses seized because he was bankrolling Hitler. They have been looking for pay back ever since. And they got it two-fold. Obama and his wife have told us how much they hate the American people since before he was even elected. Hillary left the White House broke and her husbands cum all over everyone. These people fucking hate us. Why do you think the Bush's are backing Hillary now? Because they are on her side AGAINST Us. The fucking jig is up. Do you think they will be on the front lines fighting a battle with Russia? Hell no. They'll be off in some underground bunker sipping wine with each other.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Coup

Your argument doesn't hold water. Russia doesn't need Oil and Gas. Exporting it is the backbone of their economy. They clearly have MUCH more than they need.

Oil and natural gas sales accounted for 68% of Russia?s total export revenues in 2013 - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

And if they had even more oil in the Middle East they could just sell that much more.

I won't pretend to act like I know exactly why the Russians want Trump to win. All I know is that typically if the Russians want something, whatever that is isn't likely very good for the US.

If Putin wants Trump there is a reason and I highly doubt that reason is world peace.

[kane]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Coup already answered the reason. Her and Obama started this Syria shit and she intends to finish it. Much like Bush Jr did with his fathers mess. That worked out well for us. In addition, you REALLY have to start looking at these people differently. The Bush's have had something against the American people for about 70 years. What's that you ask? Prescott Bush had all of the family money and businesses seized because he was bankrolling Hitler. They have been looking for pay back ever since. And they got it two-fold. Obama and his wife have told us how much they hate the American people since before he was even elected. Hillary left the White House broke and her husbands cum all over everyone. These people fucking hate us. Why do you think the Bush's are backing Hillary now? Because they are on her side AGAINST Us.

Have I once made a post endorsing Hillary?

No.

I have said many times I think she will win because I think she will win. I have never endorsed her.

All I am saying, like I posted above, is if Putin wants Trump there is a reason and I highly doubt that reason world peace.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by kane

And if they had even more oil in the Middle East they could just sell that much more.

I won't pretend to act like I know exactly why the Russians want Trump to win. All I know is that typically if the Russians want something, whatever that is isn't likely very good for the US.

If Putin wants Trump there is a reason and I highly doubt that reason is world peace.

They want him to win because they want peaceful relations with us Edit: Not because he's a puppet or they think he is awesome. But they aren't going to sit around and let us continue having a hand in the destruction of their allies.

This oil argument you're presenting is absurd. They aren't risking a war with the United States for oil.

[Coup]

Since we're asking ourselves questions, ask yourselves this: If the Russians are out to install Donald Trump as a puppet... Do you think Donald Trump is a competent man? Or are the Russians complete morons?

I'm pretty sure they are savy enough that they could've propped up a much more competent puppet, personally.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Coup

Since we're asking ourselves questions, ask yourselves this: If the Russians are out to install Donald Trump as a puppet... Do you think Donald Trump is a competent man? Or are the Russians complete morons?

I'm pretty sure they are savy enough that they could've propped up a much more competent puppet, personally.

I don't think they see him as a puppet so much as they see him less of a pain in their ass than Hillary. I'm sure they see Trump as competent, but I think they see how he is running his campaign and they see what kind of person he is and they feel he will be easier to control and get what they want from him.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by kane

I don't think they see him as a puppet so much as they see him less of a pain in their ass than Hillary. I'm sure they see Trump as competent, but I think they see how he is running his campaign and they see what kind of person he is and they feel he will be easier to control and get what they want from him.

If what they want is "Not war and leave our allies alone" it's not to much to ask. A war between us would be devastating for both. All evidence points that we are heading there fast.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Coup

If what they want is "Not war and leave our allies alone" it's not to much to ask. A war between us would be devastating for both. All evidence points that we are heading there fast.

I think all parties involved are smart enough to know a war between Russia and the US would be catastrophic and therefore will be avoided no matter who is in the White House.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by kane

I think all parties involved are smart enough to know a war between Russia and the US would be catastrophic and therefore will be avoided no matter who is in the White House.

As far is Hillary is concerned, all the evidence points in the direction of war. Hillary's smart enough to know this and it's clear that she just doesn't care.

[plaster]

Originally Posted by kane

I think all parties involved are smart enough to know a war between Russia and the US would be catastrophic and therefore will be avoided no matter who is in the White House.

I think hillary pissed off Putin with a renig on back door arrangement and he despises her and the clinton machine now. I think he likes trump and wants to see clinton cash shut down and start anew.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Coup

As far is Hillary is concerned, all the evidence points in the direction of war. Hillary's smart enough to know this and it's clear that she just doesn't care.

The Middle East is one giant cluster fuck. It has been a giant cluster fuck since the beginning of recorded history and there is no reason to think it won't always be a giant cluster fuck. IMO we should just leave the area completely. Let anyone that wants it have it and they can deal with the shit storm that it is.

That said, that isn't going to happen anytime soon. So, I think Hillary is smart enough to know what can and cannot be done there when it comes to pushing the Russians too far. To say she doesn't care about starting a war with Russia is just being flip.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by kane

Have I once made a post endorsing Hillary?

No.

I have said many times I think she will win because I think she will win. I have never endorsed her.

All I am saying, like I posted above, is if Putin wants Trump there is a reason and I highly doubt that reason world peace.

Welcome to the very long list of "I hate Trump but I don't like Hillary either." I'm on the "I hate Hillary but I don't like Trump" list. Only question left is who's list is bigger or who's crooked enough to steal it. I'll give that one to Hillary hands down. She's already been caught once. There's definitely going to be election fraud, no doubt about it. The question is can they do it without making it completely obvious and when they do get caught, which they will, will Trump fight it or lay down like Al Gore did? Or will the attempt fail because they underestimated?

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Great work OP

This will be an election that will prove if we have really passed the point of no return in absurdity / ignorance / idiocy among the population.

There has been so many actual facts already uncovered that go directly against the public interest (real issues affecting the country, not pussy grabbing) that just about any presidential candidate in the history of US would have to drop out.

Being forced to it by public (which appears increasingly ignorant), and by mass media (which either hide just about everything like if didn't happen or are labeled "extremist").

Originally Posted by kane

And if they had even more oil in the Middle East they could just sell that much more.

I won't pretend to act like I know exactly why the Russians want Trump to win. All I know is that typically if the Russians want something, whatever that is isn't likely very good for the US.

If Putin wants Trump there is a reason and I highly doubt that reason is world peace.

The whole Middle Eastern oil cartel is trying for a while now to cut just about anybody else from even considering self-reliance in oil production by artificially dumping the price of crude oil below its drilling cost.

Russia needs the prices to go up, so it's in their interest all these cartel nations have a strong counter part in the region (that's why they support Iran). Plus they also have their pretty much only military base in Middle East in Syria. That itself is a clear reason why they are involved.

Ironically, Obama with his Iran fiasco and history of utter incompetence and inaction in the region (apart from bowing to the Saudi King) gives the Russians an excellent opportunity to achieve just this.

If Trump proclaims that he's not going to continue exporting "freedom" to these hellish regions that cause so much trouble to the Russian economy, it's only logical Russia supports him over the proven war monger HRC.

HRC, that's in the pocket of just about any big business in US. We could see first hand what this has caused during the last 15 years (think 3 trillion "war" in Iraq, government money funneled directly to the military complex etc.).

[Coup]

Originally Posted by kane

The Middle East is one giant cluster fuck. It has been a giant cluster fuck since the beginning of recorded history and there is no reason to think it won't always be a giant cluster fuck. IMO we should just leave the area completely. Let anyone that wants it have it and they can deal with the shit storm that it is.

That said, that isn't going to happen anytime soon. So, I think Hillary is smart enough to know what can and cannot be done there when it comes to pushing the Russians too far. To say she doesn't care about starting a war with Russia is just being flip.

It's not just the Russians. If we go arming the Syrian kurds the Turks are going to absolutely flip their shit. That is Hillary's stated goal along with arming and supporting the sunni rebels. There is no "Knowing the limit" if that is her stated goals. The limit is already crossed pretty much. Continued involvement in syria will guarantee war with russia and possibly turkey. The last thing the turks want is armed kurds.

You say you want to leave the ME alone and yet you continue to argue for the person openly advocating continued involvement. Where's the logic in any of your argument?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Coup

It's not just the Russians. If we go arming the Syrian kurds the Turks are going to absolutely flip their shit. That is Hillary's stated goal along with arming and supporting the sunni rebels. There is no "Knowing the limit" if that is her stated goals. The limit is already crossed pretty much. Continued involvement in syria will guarantee war with russia and possibly turkey. The last thing the turks want is armed kurds.

You say you want to leave the ME alone and yet you continue to argue for the person openly advocating continued involvement. Where's the logic in any of your argument?

I'm not arguing for Clinton. I am making two points:

1. I don't think Clinton will get us into a war with Russia.
2. I think there is more to Russia wanting Trump than they thinking he will make a good partner for peace.