This week begins the sinking of the hilary boat.

[Joshua G]

No shaking hands. No kissing babies. No press conferences. No fair interviews, just ones with friends. No meeting with the public, just donors. Its absurd, her insularity.

So can a candidate win a presidency entirely on surrogates & TV? Can she win with no footwork?

I say no.

In fact i dare say the media is overplaying its hand. 2 problems - its energizing trump movement, & its causing left leaning voters to be falsely complacent. There are dumb hilary voters that really believe she is up 14. But shes not.

All the ingredients for a huge upset are in play.

Mark the calendar, & watch the only accurate poll, LAtimes. The decisive move to trump starts now.

[Yanks_Todd]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

its energizing trump movement

That is just the Boone's Farm and a post sister coital high. Don't be confused, it will wear off as the week of looking for a job starts once again.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

No shaking hands. No kissing babies. No press conferences. No fair interviews, just ones with friends. No meeting with the public, just donors. Its absurd, her insularity.

So can a candidate win a presidency entirely on surrogates & TV? Can she win with no footwork?

I say no.

In fact i dare say the media is overplaying its hand. 2 problems - its energizing trump movement, & its causing left leaning voters to be falsely complacent. There are dumb hilary voters that really believe she is up 14. But shes not.

All the ingredients for a huge upset are in play.

Mark the calendar, & watch the only accurate poll, LAtimes. The decisive move to trump starts now.

She will unfortunately win though. Ignoring the polls - look at bookmaker's odds. Last I checked trump is paying out 5:1 and hillary 1,2:1... The establishment won't allow trump to be president, and Hillary will probably start WW3 with Russia.

[Relic]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

She will unfortunately win though. Ignoring the polls - look at bookmaker's odds. Last I checked trump is paying out 5:1 and hillary 1,2:1... The establishment won't allow trump to be president, and Hillary will probably start WW3 with Russia.

The establishment will find itself in a civil war before any Hillary or WW3 type scenario occurs. The people have had it. Those bookmaker odds also regarded brexit as an impossibility. It's all part of a flux of propaganda to make the establishment's wishes appear as forgone conclusions. Read the founding documents, provisions exist for these tyrants.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

She will unfortunately win though. Ignoring the polls - look at bookmaker's odds. Last I checked trump is paying out 5:1 and hillary 1,2:1... The establishment won't allow trump to be president, and Hillary will probably start WW3 with Russia.

The bookmaker odds on Brexit were about 10:1 leave and 1,2:1 remain.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Relic

The establishment will find itself in a civil war before any Hillary or WW3 type scenario occurs. The people have had it. Those bookmaker odds also regarded brexit as an impossibility. It's all part of a flux of propaganda to make the establishment's wishes appear as forgone conclusions. Read the founding documents, provisions exist for these tyrants.

Everything that's happening right now in the world is sketchy as fuck. The establishment, both republic and democratic, might have some skeletons in their closets they'd be worried about trump releasing because he's an outsider. Germany told people to have food rations for 10 days. Russia telling politicians to bring back kids from foreign schools immediately. Obama refuses to sign declaration that the US won't be the first to use nuclear weapons. An almost colonization of the EU by Islamic migrants. That wierd army training shit that was happening around Texas a month or two back, etc. Something is going on. It wasn't always like this.

I don't know what the end-game is, maybe the elites are planning to start a global war to cull some of the population, who knows.

And talks about civil war? I don't see this happening. People are convinced that wars are relics of the past and only happen far away. Americans have tons of guns bought I doubt anyone is going to grab their rifles and go "fight for their countries" like they do in the movies. Nothing short of a coup-de-etat by the army will bring down the establishment and it's not like the higher ups in the army aren't already like that. I get a vibe that alot of people think that Americans are some cowboys that "won't take shit from tyrants" but the fact is they probably will. Trump will lose, either fairly or due to election rigging (George Soros has influential control over a company who will supply 16 US states with voting machines). It's harder to rig an election then it is to spread lies, half-truths and misinformation via the media, but don't think that they will stop at that if they see the need. There isn't going to be civil war in a country with 320 million people. It's impossible to organize something large enough to not get squashed in a fucking second. How? Facebook? They'll censor it and label anyone planning it a terrorist. Civil war was possible in the states when there was colonies because there was fuck all people here. The government is already organized, the people aren't and you can't organize that many people with the media and any form of mass communication being censored.

No one rich or powerful enough enough to stop it is going to band together to keep this from happening, because frankly they'll just move elsewhere and not give a fuck rather then risk anything. I know I would rather then risk fuck knows what.

Hillary *WILL* be the next president of the United States. I would prefer that not happen, because what happens in the USA affects the whole world, but that's how it's going to be...

[Relic]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Nothing short of a coup-de-etat by the army will bring down the establishment

This is very possible as Donald Trump has the allegiance of the admiralty. I agree with all your points though. Trump isn't kidding when he says it's rigged. It's always the globalist candidate that wins. Always.

[Relic]

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Relic

And we'll be living in an 1984-esque society long before any violent revolution happens. Again, it's IMPOSSIBLE to rally even a fraction of 320 million people to start a civil war today. Fuck, you can write at the top of twitter's site "We're fighting back! Prepare your guns!" where everyone could see it and it'll get removed by ISP's on the way to your pc on the fly if the government wants it gone.

Everything we do is being watched and censored in the name of fighting terrorism - and it in some ways should be but the battle against terrorism will be lost anyways because it's impossible to stop due to advancements in technologiy. Look at drones - those are fucking TERRIFYING. There's nothing that can prevent a terrorist from from buying a used $1-2k drone off craigslist, loading it with a couple of kg of explosives and flying it into a crowd of people during a parade from half a mile away or more. It's too small to be caught on radar and too fast to shoot down (not that some cop seeing one would nessesarily react immediately and start shooting at it to begin with).

[LatinaCamChat]

America - Land of the cuckolds

Unless they somehow get Trump to make America great again.

[Relic]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Look at drones - those are fucking TERRIFYING.

Sure are

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by Relic

Sure are

Well thanks for that. My life wasn't stressful enough

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

No shaking hands. No kissing babies. No press conferences. No fair interviews, just ones with friends. No meeting with the public, just donors. Its absurd, her insularity.

So can a candidate win a presidency entirely on surrogates & TV? Can she win with no footwork?

I say no.

In fact i dare say the media is overplaying its hand. 2 problems - its energizing trump movement, & its causing left leaning voters to be falsely complacent. There are dumb hilary voters that really believe she is up 14. But shes not.

All the ingredients for a huge upset are in play.

Mark the calendar, & watch the only accurate poll, LAtimes. The decisive move to trump starts now.

You need to educate yourself on the scope of her ground game compared to Trump. There's a lot more going on than you see.

[Paul Markham]

Read these. The shit is about to hit the fan.

The Press Buries Hillary Clinton?s Sins - WSJ

https://newrepublic.com/article/1365...-clinton-whack

Ultimate Media Privilege: Hillary?s Crimes Versus Trump?s Mouth | Observer

As the media is forced to reveal Clinton's sins. The balance will topple.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by bronco67

You need to educate yourself on the scope of her ground game compared to Trump. There's a lot more going on than you see.

maybe you should educate yourself & put down CNN. a well rounded reader knows the dems are quite upset at the hilary ground game...

Democrats Worry About Hillary Clinton’s Ground Game - The Daily Beast

you need to read both sides not just 1, you bimbo.

[Yanks_Todd]

Originally Posted by bronco67

You need to educate yourself on the scope of her ground game compared to Trump. There's a lot more going on than you see.

I think she is working on her transition team and whether or not to pursue states like AZ or call it a win and stay out of the Trump Trainwreck.

[Relic]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Well thanks for that. My life wasn't stressful enough

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Yanks_Todd

I think she is working on her transition team and whether or not to pursue states like AZ or call it a win and stay out of the Trump Trainwreck.

yes todd thanks for making my point that you libs think you got it in the bag....you dont.

sorry but PC whining doesnt have pull in the rust belt like it does in NYC...sorry.

[Joshua G]

fox news will come through...they will flood hilary with flashbulbs, raise the room temp...whatever it takes to make that wenchs diseases spill out all over the place.

no coughing, hillz...

[flashfire]

Problem for Trump is that the majority of his supporters are in the same hick states

electoral vote will be almost impossible, look at a map and tell me the states he actually has a shot

[flashfire]

thats what I thought

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

No shaking hands. No kissing babies. No press conferences. No fair interviews, just ones with friends. No meeting with the public, just donors. Its absurd, her insularity.

So can a candidate win a presidency entirely on surrogates & TV? Can she win with no footwork?

I say no.

In fact i dare say the media is overplaying its hand. 2 problems - its energizing trump movement, & its causing left leaning voters to be falsely complacent. There are dumb hilary voters that really believe she is up 14. But shes not.

All the ingredients for a huge upset are in play.

Mark the calendar, & watch the only accurate poll, LAtimes. The decisive move to trump starts now.

Jerk off while you can, Dynamo, your boy Trump's about to be bitch-slapped.

[Coup]

Originally Posted by flashfire

Problem for Trump is that the majority of his supporters are in the same hick states

electoral vote will be almost impossible, look at a map and tell me the states he actually has a shot

He has a shot in a few of the battleground states and it will be a blow out in the red states. It's a single digit race in more than few cases.

Battleground: 2016 Swing State Map, List, Polls & News - POLITICO

I believe this race is a lot closer than the current media narrative would have you believe.

Edit: even CNN is admitting that his latest scandals haven't hurt much

[flashfire]

Originally Posted by Coup

He has a shot in a few of the battleground states and it will be a blow out in the red states. It's a single digit race in more than few cases.

Battleground: 2016 Swing State Map, List, Polls & News - POLITICO

I believe this race is a lot closer than the current media narrative would have you believe.

Edit: even CNN is admitting that his latest scandals haven't hurt much

He was already unlikely to win..even if he wins Florida and a couple others he still loses

I don't think some of you understand how this works...there is a reason all Trump is doing these days is making excuses for losing the election

[dougeetx]

Grab 'Em In The Pussy | Teespring

[Rochard]

Grab them by the pussy!

[kane]

So, we are at the end of what yous called the beginning of the end for Hillary and nothing has happened. Many people felt she won the debate or at the very least, it was a draw. Your beloved L.A. Times poll hasn't budged and Trump is actually polling a fraction lower today than he was at the beginning of the week.

So, maybe next week? Or the week after that?

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by kane

So, we are at the end of what yous called the beginning of the end for Hillary and nothing has happened. Many people felt she won the debate or at the very least, it was a draw. Your beloved L.A. Times poll hasn't budged and Trump is actually polling a fraction lower today than he was at the beginning of the week.

So, maybe next week? Or the week after that?

pretty clear that people saw what they want to see at the debate. as such, partisans also reflect their views on the independents. you do it, i do it, i believe in part because we are both independents.

but my beloved LA Times poll says trump is winning. he has trended up the past 2 days, hilary is nowhere. graph appears to show trump won the debate.

Isnt it interesting that this poll has hilarys support much lower than other polls? 44% not the 48%, 50% nonsense elsewhere. & they have trump at 45 - 47%, not 38% like the fudge polls.

its more in line with the rallies, the social media, everything not fudged by the corporate media.

so its a slow moving boat. but my call is trump will be 5 up in LATimes once we are inside a few days of the vote, while the rest of the fudged polls tighten, but are still lying about the winner.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

pretty clear that people saw what they want to see at the debate. as such, partisans also reflect their views on the independents. you do it, i do it, i believe in part because we are both independents.

but my beloved LA Times poll says trump is winning. he has trended up the past 2 days, hilary is nowhere. Isnt it interesting that this poll has hilarys support much lower than other polls? 44% not the 48%, 50% nonsense elsewhere. its more in line with the rallies, the social media, everything not fudged by the corporate media.

so its a slow moving boat. but my call is trump will be 5 up in LATimes once we are inside a few days of the vote, while the rest of the fudged polls tighten, but are still lying about the winner.

When I look at the polls and I see every one of them with Clinton up anywhere from 2-10 points and they have been that way for a while then I see one that tells the opposite story it makes me wonder why. You believe it is because all the others are fudged. I believe it is because the L.A. Times is using a different format than all the others and therefore might not be accurate.

I guess we will see on election day.