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Joshua G · 11-09-2016, 01:50 PM

like i said. polls are useless.

only a couple polls put the donald in the lead, but everyone was singing the song of realclearpolitics, which was way, way off. fivethiryeight, way, way off. rasmussen, IBD, LATimes, got it right.

& LATimes predicted hilary would win 352 electoral votes while their own poll showed trump win. how sheltered & dishonest are these liberal medias?

i know that political discussions will always include fraud polls. but most of them are fudged by their sponsors. this election is the smoking gun, there is no escape from the truth.

but if anyone ever comes at me with a poll ever again...rochard thats you...i will bring up trump 16.

JFK · 11-09-2016, 02:01 PM

its a statistic, 95% of statistics are made up on the spot, as this was !

plaster · 11-09-2016, 02:02 PM

CNN still reporting Hillary is ahead by 5...

Joshua G · 11-09-2016, 02:19 PM

its not that even the whole polling industry has to go to the drawing board. a few polls properly captured trump support in the high 40s...rasmussen & LATimes.

why did all the fudge polls understate trump support by at least 4 points? i thought the hilary number was fudged up, but all along it was the secret trump voter the polls missed.

the problem is that there is rampant liberal bias in the polling pools. bottom line.

kane · 11-09-2016, 02:46 PM

I will admit a good number of them were off, but a good number of them were correct as well. Here's the interesting thing to me. The day before the election most of the polls had Clinton up by 1-3 points, but most of those polls have a margin of error of 3points so basically they were tied. And that is how it played out on a national scale. Hillary won the popular vote, Trump won the Electoral College.

The biggest polls that were wrong were those in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Some polls had her winning Wisconsin by 6 points and clearly, they were wrong.

I don't think the polls were fudged in that I don't think they massaged the date to give her a lead. I do think there were a good number of people who were either completely off the pollster's radar or who flat out lied to the polls who planned to vote Trump all along, but didn't want to say so.

If that is what happened, clearly they will have to change how they operate going forward. If, by chance, they did fudge them and massage the data they now look like idiots for doing so.

I also think they underestimated how may Republicans would actually vote for Trump. There was a lot of talk about Republicans bailing on Trump and not voting for Trump, but in the end 90% of Republicans voted for him. I think that was something a lot of people, myself included, didn't think would happen. I thought it might be more like 75%

MFCT · 11-10-2016, 01:50 AM

Yeah, polls are a joke and this campaign proves it.

It seems they made would-be Hillary voters complacent and not bothering to go out and vote. They saw the polls and thought to themselves, "She's got it already. I'll just stay home and watch her win on CNN."

Also, I've never seen a losing presidential candidate in my lifetime not come out and at least thank all the supporters. With her, it was just like, "Go home." No gratitude to all those most-hardcore supporters who waited in line for hours just to be there for her. I think it shows how little regard she actually has for them, and how much less regard she must have for anyone else.

Maybe the polls, in a roundabout way, did us all a favor.

Relic · 11-10-2016, 02:08 AM

They tried manufacturing consent and they failed miserably.

MiamiBoyz · 11-10-2016, 04:19 AM

"Everyone Lies" - Dr. House

Grapesoda · 11-10-2016, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

I do think there were a good number of people who were either completely off the pollster's radar or who flat out lied to the polls who planned to vote Trump all along, but didn't want to say so.

this is a statement to the media, stop fucking lying and making shit up to push creepy personal agendas. when Obama's 'it could have been my son' 911 call was altered to place racism as the center of the shooting or t martin, the media did not give one fuck, but some dumb cunt accuses trump of complete bullshit 30 years ago... you get the point.

CaptainHowdy · 11-10-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Relic

They tried manufacturing consent and they failed miserably.

candyflip · 11-10-2016, 04:32 PM

The one person that I know who was polled lied, saying she supported Hillary but in reality she was voting for Trump.

mineistaken · 11-10-2016, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip

The one person that I know who was polled lied, saying she supported Hillary but in reality she was voting for Trump.

Wasn't her brainwashed by "Trump hates women" narrative?

11-09-2016, 01:50 PM	#1
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	hey kane - you need anymore proof that the polls are bullshit? like i said. polls are useless. only a couple polls put the donald in the lead, but everyone was singing the song of realclearpolitics, which was way, way off. fivethiryeight, way, way off. rasmussen, IBD, LATimes, got it right. & LATimes predicted hilary would win 352 electoral votes while their own poll showed trump win. how sheltered & dishonest are these liberal medias? i know that political discussions will always include fraud polls. but most of them are fudged by their sponsors. this election is the smoking gun, there is no escape from the truth. but if anyone ever comes at me with a poll ever again...rochard thats you...i will bring up trump 16.

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MFCT Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 1,489	Yeah, polls are a joke and this campaign proves it. It seems they made would-be Hillary voters complacent and not bothering to go out and vote. They saw the polls and thought to themselves, "She's got it already. I'll just stay home and watch her win on CNN." Also, I've never seen a losing presidential candidate in my lifetime not come out and at least thank all the supporters. With her, it was just like, "Go home." No gratitude to all those most-hardcore supporters who waited in line for hours just to be there for her. I think it shows how little regard she actually has for them, and how much less regard she must have for anyone else. Maybe the polls, in a roundabout way, did us all a favor. __________________ Keeping you abreast of the teens that get undressed. Girls By Location - Couples By Location - Guys By Location - Trans By Location

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11-09-2016, 02:02 PM	#3
plaster So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 2,295	CNN still reporting Hillary is ahead by 5...

11-09-2016, 02:19 PM	#4
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	its not that even the whole polling industry has to go to the drawing board. a few polls properly captured trump support in the high 40s...rasmussen & LATimes. why did all the fudge polls understate trump support by at least 4 points? i thought the hilary number was fudged up, but all along it was the secret trump voter the polls missed. the problem is that there is rampant liberal bias in the polling pools. bottom line.

11-09-2016, 02:46 PM	#5
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I will admit a good number of them were off, but a good number of them were correct as well. Here's the interesting thing to me. The day before the election most of the polls had Clinton up by 1-3 points, but most of those polls have a margin of error of 3points so basically they were tied. And that is how it played out on a national scale. Hillary won the popular vote, Trump won the Electoral College. The biggest polls that were wrong were those in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Some polls had her winning Wisconsin by 6 points and clearly, they were wrong. I don't think the polls were fudged in that I don't think they massaged the date to give her a lead. I do think there were a good number of people who were either completely off the pollster's radar or who flat out lied to the polls who planned to vote Trump all along, but didn't want to say so. If that is what happened, clearly they will have to change how they operate going forward. If, by chance, they did fudge them and massage the data they now look like idiots for doing so. I also think they underestimated how may Republicans would actually vote for Trump. There was a lot of talk about Republicans bailing on Trump and not voting for Trump, but in the end 90% of Republicans voted for him. I think that was something a lot of people, myself included, didn't think would happen. I thought it might be more like 75%

11-10-2016, 02:08 AM	#7
Relic So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,300	They tried manufacturing consent and they failed miserably.

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