trump must have the balls to execute the nuclear option

[Joshua G]

eliminate the filibuster in the senate, once & for all.

if he doesn't do it, dems are going to do to trump what GOP did to obama for 8 years. blind obstruction.

its not in the constitution. just a dumb senate rule, they can simply delete it with 51 votes.

[Bladewire]

How do they eliminate the filibuster? What steps do they take? How quickly can it get done?

[kane]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

How do they eliminate the filibuster? What steps do they take? How quickly can it get done?

The democrats changed the Senate rules to enact what they call "The Nuclear Option." This allows the Senate to approve (or disapprove) cabinet and judicial nominees with a simple majority vote of 51. Normally, it takes 60 votes to approve a nominee.

When Trump takes office the republicans will only have a 51 to 49 advantage in the Senate so the Democrats likely will do some filibustering of nominees. The Senate Republicans can use this option to get around it.

The potential downside is that if one party uses it, especially if they use it regularly, there likely will come a time when they are the minority party and they can then expect to have it used against them.

[Joshua G]

The GOP already got rid of the filibuster for nominees.

But im talking about everything. All bills. 51 votes to pass.

Just like 1791. There is no filibuster in the constitution. & today, its used only for obstruction, not for making deals like in previous eras.

It needs to be gone, or nothing will get done, or bills will be watered down to failures. This is exactly what happened to obamacare. Had to scrap big parts that couldnt get 60 votes.

Get rid of it. Totally.

[charlie g]

should change the name or cher and baldwin will go hide in their fallout bunkers...wait, keep the name

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by charlie g

should change the name or cher and baldwin will go hide in their fallout bunkers...wait, keep the name

Oh but no

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

The GOP already got rid of the filibuster for nominees.

But im talking about everything. All bills. 51 votes to pass.

Just like 1791. There is no filibuster in the constitution. & today, its used only for obstruction, not for making deals like in previous eras.

It needs to be gone, or nothing will get done, or bills will be watered down to failures. This is exactly what happened to obamacare. Had to scrap big parts that couldnt get 60 votes.

Get rid of it. Totally.

Let me get this right - a function of your government was used to thwart a democratically elected president from passing laws. That was ok though because he was not your choice of president.

Now, when your guy in in the hot seat, you think that the same functions should be scrapped and your guy should have free reign to do whatever the fuck he likes.

And for the sake of clarity this is a guy that lied, bullied, and slandered his way into the top job. Cheered on by far right groups and political parties around the world ?

A guy that was happy to treat the office of president with utter contempt, and a guy who brought the fairness of the whole democratic procedure into doubt. A guy who refused say whether or not he would actually accept the result should he lose.

You actually think the normal checks and balances which are in place should be removed for this guy ?

[Joshua G]

Newnick...you live in a fantasy zone. Im not wasting energy debunking your fairy tales. You will have to figure out reality yourself.

I was no fan of obamacare being mutilated by the filibuster. It had its purpose in a less hostile politics. Today its holding back agendas.

Its not a check & balance from the constitution. Im tired of having to educate you on basic facts. Such as the right wing cheering trump? They opposed him you dummy!

Your a moron. Stop pretending your on my playing field. You have a middle school understanding of life.

[NewNick]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

Newnick...you live in a fantasy zone. Im not wasting energy debunking your fairy tales. You will have to figure out reality yourself.

I was no fan of obamacare being mutilated by the filibuster. It had its purpose in a less hostile politics. Today its holding back agendas.

Its not a check & balance from the constitution. Im tired of having to educate you on basic facts.

Your a moron. Stop pretending your on my playing field. You have a middle school understanding of life.

As usual you ignore the points made and hurl insults like a little girl.

Pathetic.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by NewNick

As usual you ignore the points made and hurl insults like a little girl.

Pathetic.

There are no facts from u. Just fairy tales, such as, i was ok with the GOP obstructing obama. I wasnt. You made it up. Fairy tale.

Go talk to 10 year olds they are on your level.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by NewNick

Let me get this right - a function of your government was used to thwart a democratically elected president from passing laws. That was ok though because he was not your choice of president.

Now, when your guy in in the hot seat, you think that the same functions should be scrapped and your guy should have free reign to do whatever the fuck he likes.

And for the sake of clarity this is a guy that lied, bullied, and slandered his way into the top job. Cheered on by far right groups and political parties around the world ?

A guy that was happy to treat the office of president with utter contempt, and a guy who brought the fairness of the whole democratic procedure into doubt. A guy who refused say whether or not he would actually accept the result should he lose.

You actually think the normal checks and balances which are in place should be removed for this guy ?

Well said.

There are people whose family and friends are afraid they're going to be rounded up and shipped out of the country because of their citizenship status or religion, because of what Trump said to win the election. After winning the office Trump has remained silent, except to complain about the protesters on twitter and accused them of being paid for by the media.

This election has shown that all norms are out the window, that includes a Trump presidency and peaceful transition of power, power that the majority of Americans voted for another candidate to have, not Trump.

Originally Posted by NewNick

As usual you ignore the points made and hurl insults like a little girl.

Pathetic.

This is why I put him on ignore months ago, that and this is one of a few multiple nicks he has.

He's not like most people here where you can have a thoughtful semi intelligent back and forth, it's you being thoughtful and intelligent, and him pasting propaganda or misogyny with no reference to most anything you say.

[Joshua G]

bladewire has me on ignore but somehow keeps posting his mental stink nuggets in my threads.

just admit you sweat me, you know im right & your indulging in mental mascochism wasting your energy in my domain. if you had any confidence in yourself or your own thoughts, you wouldnt be here, reading this, & replying, time after time.

now go sell some pot or something...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

There are no facts from u. Just fairy tales, such as, i was ok with the GOP obstructing obama. I wasnt. You made it up. Fairy tale.

Go talk to 10 year olds they are on your level.

The only fairytale in here is you pretending you aren't DynaMo...