Conservatives and the Tesla

[slapass]

I can't figure out why they are not behind this car. We could end our dependence on foreign oil and do it with a US made car.

I,get the range anxiety but based on all the pluses this seems a good bet.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by slapass

I can't figure out why they are not behind this car. We could end our dependence on foreign oil and do it with a US made car.

I,get the range anxiety but based on all the pluses this seems a good bet.

They are against for 2 reasons: They are stupid, and big oil pays them to be.

BTW, Range Anxiety isn't a think anymore. Tesla's get around 300 miles to a charge, and charge up to near-full in less than 30 minutes, at any of thousands of free charging stations across the US and Canada.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by **********

They are against for 2 reasons: They are stupid, and big oil pays them to be.

One reason. They are conservative, by definition it means they do not like novelties etc.

[TCLGirls]

Originally Posted by slapass

I can't figure out why they are not behind this car. We could end our dependence on foreign oil and do it with a US made car.

I,get the range anxiety but based on all the pluses this seems a good bet.

You can't figure out why conservatives, brainwashed by big oil, are not behind an electric powered car?

[noshit]

Originally Posted by mineistaken

One reason. They are conservative, by definition it means they do not like novelties etc.

Drill Baby, Drill..!

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[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by **********

They are against for 2 reasons: They are stupid, and big oil pays them to be.

What a ridiculous statement. Any notion that I may have about you being a fairly intelligent and reasonable individual is gone.

Besides OP did not ask why they are against it. He asked why they are not behind it. There is a difference.




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[woj]

are you driving one yourself? why not?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by slapass

I can't figure out why they are not behind this car. We could end our dependence on foreign oil and do it with a US made car.

I,get the range anxiety but based on all the pluses this seems a good bet.

near as I can tell only you and mark prince think conservatives are against the tesla

[crockett]

Conservatives are a special breed. They deny logic and fact but believe in fairy tales and failed ideologies.

[Barry-xlovecam]

1. Social conservatives cannot afford electric automobiles; or,
2. Financial conservatives own oil stocks and electric automobiles are not in their self interest.

Hydrogen fuel cell automobiles and trucks is the long term bet ...
Hydrogen fuel cell cars coming to Connecticut - Connecticut Post

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by slapass

I can't figure out why they are not behind this car. We could end our dependence on foreign oil and do it with a US made car.

I,get the range anxiety but based on all the pluses this seems a good bet.

its seems like its you who needs to clarify. who or which conservatives have even taken a position on tesla?

the only moaning i've ever heard is telsas dependence on government handouts to stay in business. which to me is a nonsensical critique in light of the F 35 program.

a far better critique is having snobs sit on top of 10,000 lithium ion batteries & call it a safe vehicle. Sounds more like a death trap to me. good luck fixing those cars in a decade. how much will it cost to replace all those batteries???

then there is the source of all that electricity- is that really better than gas for the environment. nobody discusses that. or whether all the rare earth metals needed for the batteries is worth all that strip mining you libs oppose so much. & all this is being done just so libs can behave like holier than thou snobs, when theres still no proof of the teslas carbon saving...might be even worse than gas...

IMO.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Joshua G

its seems like its you who needs to clarify. who or which conservatives have even taken a position on tesla?

the only moaning i've ever heard is telsas dependence on government handouts to stay in business. which to me is a nonsensical critique in light of the F 35 program.

a far better critique is having snobs sit on top of 10,000 lithium ion batteries & call it a safe vehicle. Sounds more like a death trap to me. good luck fixing those cars in a decade. how much will it cost to replace all those batteries???

then there is the source of all that electricity- is that really better than gas for the environment. nobody discusses that. or whether all the rare earth metals needed for the batteries is worth all that strip mining you libs oppose so much. & all this is being done just so libs can behave like holier than thou snobs, when theres still no proof of the teslas carbon saving...might be even worse than gas...

IMO.

Yet the same conservatrolls never whine about govt hand outs to big oil & gas. BTW yes there were many of you consertrolls whom bitched and moaned endlessly about Tesla. It's gone quiet on that front now because as we've all seen Tesla has proven themselves but a few years ago your little troll buddies like Robbie, mineistaken, ect..ect used to bitch and whine endlessly about it and tell us all how electric cars would never get anywhere . It was all just a ploy to steal tax payers money.. Wrong. Pretty much the only one of the local conservatrolls whom wasn't whining about Tesla 3 years ago was you JoushaMo..

[Rochard]

Eventually electric cars will be the standard, and Tesla will be leading the way.

This is a massive shift in technology, economics, and society, and it will take time to take hold. The technology and the cost is just not there yet. Electric cars come with additional financial costs and technological hurdles.

For me.... I don't see the reasoning behind paying extra for a car that cannot get me from San Fran to Southern California in one charge. I am sure there are charging stations along the way, but why would I want to extend my trip by an hour or two pay more for doing it?

Also, we do not yet have solar at our house..... Installing solar at my house would cost $35k, and would cost more per month then my current power bill so there is little incentive for me to get an solar. So if I can't get solar.... What's the point in getting an electric car? I am either paying for power or paying for gas.

We are getting very close, but we aren't there yet.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

What a ridiculous statement. Any notion that I may have about you being a fairly intelligent and reasonable individual is gone.

Ok, I take it back.

But then again, look at what I am basing my opinion on. It's a well known fact that many republicans have been working hard to unplug EV's.

And then there is this tool:



To be fair, not all conservatives are like this, but I think most are.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Eventually electric cars will be the standard, and Tesla will be leading the way.

This is a massive shift in technology, economics, and society, and it will take time to take hold. The technology and the cost is just not there yet. Electric cars come with additional financial costs and technological hurdles.

For me.... I don't see the reasoning behind paying extra for a car that cannot get me from San Fran to Southern California in one charge. I am sure there are charging stations along the way, but why would I want to extend my trip by an hour or two pay more for doing it?

Also, we do not yet have solar at our house..... Installing solar at my house would cost $35k, and would cost more per month then my current power bill so there is little incentive for me to get an solar. So if I can't get solar.... What's the point in getting an electric car? I am either paying for power or paying for gas.

We are getting very close, but we aren't there yet.

I'm with you. We're getting really close, but we aren't there yet.

Solar panels are going up on houses around here, but the technology is changing super fast and the rules are weird and electricity is dirt-cheap where I live, so Solar doesn't make economic sense for me. I want it anyway (cuz, cool!) but I don't need it.

For me, San Fran to San Diego in a Tesla would be awesome. The trip is about 550 miles and would require only 1 stop and 30 minutes for a charge-up. How much gas that might be varies on the car of course, but price aside, electric would be so cool.

[DBS.US]

Tesla is the only America car I see driving in Hong Kong.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by woj

are you driving one yourself? why not?

I put my 1k down on the model 3. I have a monetary goal to hit in 2017 and might just get the model S as a reward. They are super fun to drive. Crazy fast.

But for clarification, there is a lot of negative flack on the car. I would think based on its merits, that it would attract some nationalistic following.

[NETbilling]

Conservatives like coal jobs....

I have test driven a Tesla S many times, and several of my neighbors own them as well. I didn't get excited at all except for the first time because of the electric novelty of it all and the big screen in the center. For me, it's nothing like driving my 458 or 911 Turbo S but certainly more fun than our E350.



Mitch

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by **********

They are against for 2 reasons: They are stupid, and big oil pays them to be.

They're not stupid, just bought and paid for.

[MiamiBoyz]

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by **********

Ok, I take it back.

But then again, look at what I am basing my opinion on. It's a well known fact that many republicans have been working hard to unplug EV's.

And then there is this tool:



To be fair, not all conservatives are like this, but I think most are.

there is a real issue with your statement mark... the word 'think' just imagine if you used the same thought process to run your biz as you do politics. you would be homeless and you know it

[woj]

Originally Posted by slapass

I put my 1k down on the model 3. I have a monetary goal to hit in 2017 and might just get the model S as a reward. They are super fun to drive. Crazy fast.

But for clarification, there is a lot of negative flack on the car. I would think based on its merits, that it would attract some nationalistic following.

nationalistic following in what way? you expect everyone to buy it? they are relatively expensive, so it's a significant investment for most people, and given it's new technology, there are lots of risks and unknowns..

tesla is cool, but what are the benefits? that you will spend $50/month on "fuel" instead of $100/month? that you will have warm fuzzy feeling that you are doing something good for the environment? but are you really? electricity doesn't grow on trees, nor do lithium batteries, etc.. it's probably a bit better, but it's far from some miracle transportation solution...

will the car even work in Chicago during winter where it sometimes goes as low as -20 degrees? will tesla be around in 5 years, what if they are not? what will the resale value be? if I get into a small accident, and headlight would need replacing, who can I buy parts from? only tesla? etc

most people probably figure "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", so normal gas powered car is just a safer choice... once electric cars prove to be reliable, 3rd party vendors, mechanics, etc start working with them, risk will be reduced, and buying one will probably then make sense...

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by **********

I'm with you. We're getting really close, but we aren't there yet.

Solar panels are going up on houses around here, but the technology is changing super fast and the rules are weird and electricity is dirt-cheap where I live, so Solar doesn't make economic sense for me. I want it anyway (cuz, cool!) but I don't need it.

For me, San Fran to San Diego in a Tesla would be awesome. The trip is about 550 miles and would require only 1 stop and 30 minutes for a charge-up. How much gas that might be varies on the car of course, but price aside, electric would be so cool.

Solar is exploding here too, but it's not yet cost effective for everyone.

In my case, my house is 3500 sq feet. My power bill goes from $120 - $250 a month... Less in the winter of course, and more in the summer when running the AC.

In order to have solar power installed, it will cost me $300 a month. This would be a purchase, not a lease. During the winter I would be paying twice as much, and still more in the summer.

As soon as solar power is cost effective.... Electric cars will explode. At the same time, the range will be there too. We'll need to be able to drive six hundred miles on a charge.