Vote count error found in MI, bad news for Democrats - GoFuckYourself.com

onwebcam · 12-06-2016, 08:37 AM

Broken polling machines may have put vote counts in question in more than half of Detroit?s precincts and nearly one-third of surrounding Wayne County, possibly throwing the Michigan recount into chaos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...illary-clinton

Looks like you already got your recount considering votes were counted twice in densely populated democratic leaning Detroit

Bladewire · 12-06-2016, 08:51 AM

This isn't a partisan issue.

It's bad news for Democracy.

I'm sure you're happy about that Putin cut & paste shill.

If it was Republicans you'd post a conspiracy video. Sad you're so brainwashed.

crockett · 12-06-2016, 08:52 AM

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Broken polling machines may have put vote counts in question in more than half of Detroit’s precincts and nearly one-third of surrounding Wayne County, possibly throwing the Michigan recount into chaos.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...illary-clinton

I'm pretty sure that will end up in court as it should if that is the case. They are claiming state law doesn't allow a recount if the ballot numbers are different. The entire reason the numbers are different is because the machines fucked up.

That ruling won't stand it will be taken down in court, because it's an asinine law. Their state supreme court will rule the law violates the intent and there will be a recount of ballots.

They can't allow a "known" bad count to stand because of a law that was written in good intent but worked out against that good intent. They are outright stating they "know" the original count was bad due to faulty and jammed machines. There is no fucking way in hell that "bad" count will stand.

If would end up in federal court if they try.

onwebcam · 12-06-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I'm pretty sure that will end up in court as it should if that is the case. They are claiming state law doesn't allow a recount if the ballot numbers are different. The entire reason the numbers are different is because the machines fucked up.

That ruling won't stand it will be taken down in court, because it's an asinine law. Their state supreme court will rule the law violates the intent and there will be a recount of ballots.

They can't allow a "known" bad count to stand because of a law that was written in good intent but worked out against that good intent.

It doesn't matter how it plays out. It doesn't help Democrats either way. If the count stands, Trump wins. If there's a recount Trump wins by a bigger margin.

mineistaken · 12-06-2016, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

This isn't a partisan issue.

It's bad news for Democracy.

Interesting how suddenly you changed your tune. Previously all of your recount posts' tone was implying bad news for republcans etc.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-06-2016, 09:03 AM

The City of Detroit is 95%+ Democrat Party and outlying Wayne County is split with the Republicans having a small advantage.

Call the Wayne County Clerk and ask for the exact registration numbers

Bladewire · 12-06-2016, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Interesting how suddenly you changed your tune. Previously all of your recount posts' tone was implying bad news for republcans etc.

Not true. Nice try you tricky little princess.

Grapesoda · 12-06-2016, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

This isn't a partisan issue.

It's bad news for Democracy.

I'm sure you're happy about that Putin cut & paste shill.

If it was Republicans you'd post a conspiracy video. Sad you're so brainwashed.

maybe you could move to Detroit? garden spot of the north after years and years of democratic governing... just think how happy and excited you will be everyday!

onwebcam · 12-06-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The City of Detroit is 95%+ Democrat Party and outlying Wayne County is split with the Republicans having a small advantage.

Call the Wayne County Clerk and ask for the exact registration numbers

Registration numbers for what? They already know the count doesn't match the ballots cast.

"Preliminary investigation by election officials in Wayne County found that 610 of the area’s 1,680 precincts could not reconcile the number of votes cast according to the machines with the number of ballots issued according to the electoral rolls. Detroit contains 662 of Wayne’s precincts; in 392 of those, the number of votes didn’t match up."

More bad news Lansing is also in question...

"In the first six hours of Ingham County’s recount Monday, six of 30 precincts from Lansing could not be recounted. One of the ballot containers had a hole in it, making it susceptible to tampering and not recountable, county Clerk Barb Byrum said."

Half of Detroit votes may be ineligible for recount

baddog · 12-06-2016, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

It doesn't matter how it plays out. It doesn't help Democrats either way. If the count stands, Trump wins. If there's a recount Trump wins by a bigger margin.

That's too complicated for him to wrap his head around.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-06-2016, 09:45 AM

Then Jill Stein is right -- there is no accounting.

Re-do the whole fucking election nationally?
Accept the inaccurate count?
Suspend the constitution?

Vote online
1. Prove your citizenship ( I have a US Passport

)
2. Devise a secure log in

I doubt these knuckle heads can figure this out ...

Bottom line: Michigan cannot send any electors to the Electoral College.

crockett · 12-06-2016, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

It doesn't matter how it plays out. It doesn't help Democrats either way. If the count stands, Trump wins. If there's a recount Trump wins by a bigger margin.

You are assuming a hell of a lot. What the article said is many votes were counted twice when the machines jammed. That means there will be "less" votes not more. Oddly enough this "issue" didn't happen where Hillary won in the state on where Trump won..

crockett · 12-06-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

That's too complicated for him to wrap his head around.

Look drive by baddog posting!.. He's out of the dementia ward again.

Bladewire · 12-06-2016, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

maybe you could move to Detroit? garden spot of the north after years and years of democratic governing... just think how happy and excited you will be everyday!

Why do you make this about race?

A reliable voting system is a non partisan constitutional issue.

Rochard · 12-06-2016, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

A reliable voting system is a non partisan constitutional issue.

This is a very important statement right here.

At a certain point it's not about who won or by how much, but instead it's about the accuracy of the voting system. It seems to me across the board we are finding errors and inconsistencies. It doesn't matter who benefits from it - We need to investigate these thoroughly and ensure they do not happen in the future.

onwebcam · 12-06-2016, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

You are assuming a hell of a lot. What the article said is many votes were counted twice when the machines jammed. That means there will be "less" votes not more. Oddly enough this "issue" didn't happen where Hillary won in the state on where Trump won..

Hey there genius. It happened in the county/s where Hillary got most of her votes and won by a large margin (obviously because ballots were being counted twice). So less votes there means less votes for her. There is no assumption. Purely fact.

Bladewire · 12-06-2016, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam

Hey there genius. It happened in the county/s where Hillary got most of her votes. So less votes there means less votes for her. There is no assumption. Purely fact.

"According to Michigan law, a precinct must be able to reconcile their vote totals with the total number of ballots cast, or their original election results must stand and they are not eligible for participation in a recount."

Think about that for a minute. I could lie about results, send in a total hundreds or thousands off, and MI law says the total stands.

Another state voting law to be overturned as not constitutionally valid.

onwebcam · 12-06-2016, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

"According to Michigan law, a precinct must be able to reconcile their vote totals with the total number of ballots cast, or their original election results must stand and they are not eligible for participation in a recount."

Think about that for a minute. I could lie about results, send in a total hundreds or thousands off, and MI law says the total stands.

Another state voting law to be overturned as not constitutionally valid.

You can argue and change all you want about the law but it won't change the results of the winner. It only solidifies Trumps win and in reality it's looking more like Hillary really did try to steal the state so it proves we were right and not you or Stein.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-06-2016, 12:23 PM

The word 'reconcile' is not in the Statute.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...16-of-1954.pdf
MICHIGAN ELECTION LAW
Act 116 of 1954
Prove it.

Chapter and section or a court ruling or GTFO.

Barry-xlovecam · 12-06-2016, 12:40 PM

168.874 Recount; return of ballots; manner of counting votes.

Sec. 874.

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[I]f the second count of the number of ballots and the number of ballots issued on election day as shown on the poll list do not match, those ballots shall not be recounted as provided in section 871.

If the second count of the number of ballots and the number of ballots issued on election day as shown on the poll list match, the ballots from that precinct shall be counted a third time and the total compared with the number of ballots issued on election day as shown on the poll list.
**** ballot stuffing
If the third count of the number of ballots and the number of ballots issued on election day as shown on the poll list do not match, those ballots shall not be recounted as provided in section 871.
******

(b) If the first count described in subdivision (a) or the second and third counts described in subdivision (a) match the number of ballots issued on election day, the ballots shall be placed face up on the table and 1 recount clerk shall call the votes for each candidate or ballot question involved in the recount. (c) Two tally clerks shall simultaneously record the called votes on forms provided for that purpose. (3) The candidates or persons interested ...

ALL of that precinct's ballots are disqualified -- the votes DO NOT COUNT.

"those ballots shall not be recounted"

baddog · 12-06-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

168.874 Recount; return of ballots; manner of counting votes.

Sec. 874.

ALL of that precinct's ballots are disqualified -- the votes DO NOT COUNT.

"those ballots shall not be recounted"

Right, they stick with the initial count.

Bladewire · 12-06-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Right, they stick with the initial count.

Says they do not count?

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12-06-2016, 08:51 AM	#2
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,232	This isn't a partisan issue. It's bad news for Democracy. I'm sure you're happy about that Putin cut & paste shill. If it was Republicans you'd post a conspiracy video. Sad you're so brainwashed.

12-06-2016, 09:03 AM	#6
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	The City of Detroit is 95%+ Democrat Party and outlying Wayne County is split with the Republicans having a small advantage. Call the Wayne County Clerk and ask for the exact registration numbers

12-06-2016, 09:45 AM	#11
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	Then Jill Stein is right -- there is no accounting. Re-do the whole fucking election nationally? Accept the inaccurate count? Suspend the constitution? Vote online 1. Prove your citizenship ( I have a US Passport ) 2. Devise a secure log in I doubt these knuckle heads can figure this out ... Bottom line: Michigan cannot send any electors to the Electoral College.

12-06-2016, 12:23 PM	#19
Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	The word 'reconcile' is not in the Statute. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/docume...16-of-1954.pdf MICHIGAN ELECTION LAW Act 116 of 1954 Prove it. Chapter and section or a court ruling or GTFO.