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Old 12-19-2016, 06:46 PM   #1
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Muslim girl refuses to shake hands with German Presidents hand as he visits school

While the German President visits a school honored for the praise to students for integrating migrants, a Muslim girl refused to shake hands. Because of her religion, she is not allowed to touch the opposite sex. I have a very split decision of this, as I personally find this rude, however, your beliefs are your beliefs.



Muslim girl refuses to shake German president Joachim Gauck's hand on school visit | Daily Mail Online

After reading the article, you read about a boy made to shake hands in another school when he refused & another person was sent home from school for the same reason.

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In July, a Muslim pupil refused to shake the hand of his female teacher on 'religious grounds.'
As the teacher at the Kurt-Tucholsky School in Hamburg went to shake the hand of the student he offered his wrist instead.
Apparently, seconds later, he told her; 'No offence, my religion won't let me do that. I do not mean to disrespect you.'
But fellow teachers were outraged and demanded he be sent home from the event, a move the headteacher refused.
Meanwhile in Switzerland, a 15-year-old Muslim schoolboy was forced to shake hands with his female teachers after he refused to do so.
Amer Salhani lost his appeal in September after his school rejected his argument that the Swiss tradition of handshake greetings went against Islam.
The teenager and his older brother sparked a fiery debate earlier this year when they said they could not shake their teacher's hand because their religion forbids physical contact with a member of the opposite sex - unless they are family
The law and to abide by it is one thing, but in truth, to change someones belief is harsh. I'm pleased to hear nothing come of the story above, a shame for the other 2 people I read about in the article.
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i think i remember they are not allowed to. it's part of the religion the man does that. yep it is part of the muslim law
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just like a jew asking for a kosher meal. it happens.
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Round them up and send back to their place where they can live under their rules of not shaking hands, walking covered, wearing explosive vests, stoning women, or whatever they like to do.



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I'm not Mr.Religious but if against her religion the better question is how in da fuck is this news.
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Round them up and send back to their place where they can live under their rules of not shaking hands, walking covered, wearing explosive vests, stoning women, or whatever they like to do.
what about the jews??
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I'm not Mr.Religious but if against her religion the better question is how in da fuck is this news.
what I don't get is, if all these Muslims come to say Germany or the UK because they like life better & prefer the way of Christianity, not stoning women & being able to be a woman & not be silent, isn't that already against their religion?


Like with sexism, women can't say, oh this isn't fair because you're a man & all that. Shouldn't the whole religions change if a Muslim takes that one step!
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Its against the religion for her to shake hands..
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what about the jews??
Never heard about the jews forcing someone to accept their ideas worldwide, beheading people, stoning woman, not waiting to shake hands, arming kids with explosives and sending them to detonate, introducing taxes for non-muslim people, driving trucks into the crowd,denying rights to other people, stoning woman, forcing sharia law, or whatever other example showing that they can't and won't integrate into the modern world.
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keep refusing laicist people around Turkiye and middle east you europeans then come and cry for uncivilised people want to destroy your civilisation Project, you didn't care when we oppressed by a so called moderate islamist party in tr. your politicians/jurnalists even boasted them, now their thorns hurt you as welll, that's why you people scream, you do the same thing for Syria, i m really by all means sorry for the innocent victams of terrorism, but for the cultural distruction it's funny when you whine about it, you only pay back what you deserved for.
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Round them up and send back to their place where they can live under their rules of not shaking hands, walking covered, wearing explosive vests, stoning women, or whatever they like to do.



muslims are the new "serbs"...you should know this you have been though the demonization and satanization yourself...they are 1/5 of humanity, and its easy to find bad examples and cherry pick them in such a large group of people...what you speak of happens in 2 countries total out of the 51 muslim countries in the world...you should know better than to suck media cock like that...
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Never heard about the jews forcing someone to accept their ideas worldwide, beheading people, stoning woman, not waiting to shake hands, arming kids with explosives and sending them to detonate, introducing taxes for non-muslim people, driving trucks into the crowd,denying rights to other people, stoning woman, forcing sharia law, or whatever other example showing that they can't and won't integrate into the modern world.


actuallly raddical jews threw rocks and plastic chairs due to israeli girls woar mini skirts and a radical christian killed abortionist doctors, jahowa vitnessses caused death of their loved ones due to refusal of blood transfusion, it's not mutch different when you göne to far with your religion or ideology, for example: feminism was born on background of asking for their basic rights, but today it's advcated by most bigoted people, not mutch difference,
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muslims are the new "serbs"...you should know this you have been though the demonization and satanization yourself...they are 1/5 of humanity, and its easy to find bad examples and cherry pick them in such a large group of people...what you speak of happens in 2 countries total out of the 51 muslim countries in the world...you should know better than to suck media cock like that...



sorry to go off topic, but are you an Albanian or a serb? i would love to talk to you if you got Skype/icq/fb, i could pm you, but felt a bit lazy.
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For both muslim and jewish women (orthodox) it's not allowed to touch a man they are not married to (as far as I remember).
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Non news.
They explain.
It took a few generations for most mass immigrations in the USA to assimilate.
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sorry to go off topic, but are you an Albanian or a serb? i would love to talk to you if you got Skype/icq/fb, i could pm you, but felt a bit lazy.
I am mixed...I do not "belong" anywhere because I have a christian first name and a muslim sounding last name...I am a double refugee (croatia to kosovo and from kosovo to serbia) and I now live in serbia because there was no military draft here and it was the only country that did not ask me to pick up a gun and fight to prove I "belong"...

I feel sorry for muslims because I see the exact same war mongering propaganda against them as I saw against serbs...the west basically expects you to get exploited and then fight for their western interest once resistance to the western exploitation surfaces...for example I was supposed to fight bill clintons fight and if you run away from this you are an "invader"

the west be like " we will ruin your country and life but we expect you to stay at home and fight for our side"
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For both muslim and jewish women (orthodox) it's not allowed to touch a man they are not married to (as far as I remember).
And there are some wacky Christians and other sects that feel this way too.
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Why don't they where gloves to shake hands?

No skin touching, no rules broken.

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I am mixed...I do not "belong" anywhere because I have a christian first name and a muslim sounding last name...I am a double refugee (croatia to kosovo and from kosovo to serbia) and I now live in serbia because there was no military draft here and it was the only country that did not ask me to pick up a gun and fight to prove I "belong"...

I feel sorry for muslims because I see the exact same war mongering propaganda against them as I saw against serbs...the west basically expects you to get exploited and then fight for their western interest once resistance to the western exploitation surfaces...for example I was supposed to fight bill clintons fight and if you run away from this you are an "invader"

the west be like " we will ruin your country and life but we expect you to stay at home and fight for our side"
you smashed it bro!
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I am mixed...I do not "belong" anywhere because I have a christian first name and a muslim sounding last name...I am a double refugee (croatia to kosovo and from kosovo to serbia) and I now live in serbia because there was no military draft here and it was the only country that did not ask me to pick up a gun and fight to prove I "belong"...

I feel sorry for muslims because I see the exact same war mongering propaganda against them as I saw against serbs...the west basically expects you to get exploited and then fight for their western interest once resistance to the western exploitation surfaces...for example I was supposed to fight bill clintons fight and if you run away from this you are an "invader"

the west be like " we will ruin your country and life but we expect you to stay at home and fight for our side"
i share the almost same feelings on things where i live brother, i m pretty mutch like yourself, unfortunately havving different ideas than majority not always bring happyness.

when you see how people care too mutch on things which are really non sense and how far we twoards mainstream ideas.

however, i somehow don't agree with the post you mentioned above, muslim societies got social deseses
need to be cured, but aspecially people WHO live in narrow social enviroment not that mutch open to that reality.
, even in the laicist muslim dominnated countries a specially young people and other oppposition fractions struglling to over come norms forced by society, you won't feel that around in balcans, go twoards easst, a specially near gulf, but probabely we would feel deeper.

on the other hand i agree with satanisation of muslims, i can Show you many muslims here that live Western style life style which are more than an averege western even
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Pathetic... what I can say more.
well it's more symbolic. the man is the king of the castle. you shake the kings hand. remember females could not work certain jobs nor vote in the usa?? that was pathetic!
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muslims are the new "serbs"...you should know this you have been though the demonization and satanization yourself...they are 1/5 of humanity, and its easy to find bad examples and cherry pick them in such a large group of people...what you speak of happens in 2 countries total out of the 51 Muslim countries in the world...you should know better than to suck media cock like that...
No,Muslims are not the news Serbs and I don't see any kind of connection.

While I was reading your comments in previous periods, (and I 've stopped long ago) I was almost sure that you have a Muslim wife or something like that, because no normal Serb would rather be on the Muslim side and so much against the USA. It is a pathological hate what you are doing here and I've never met a person with so much hate toward USA (except radical muslims, of course). It seems you gave the partial explanation in the post below mentioning that you have a Muslim surname. That explains a lot, regarding my opinion. Your anti-USA attitude is seriously hiding some extreme frustration that I don't expect from you to share here.

Yes, USA did what they did (like in many countries) and that was the extreme historical injustice, but most of the people from the US share absolutely same values as Serbs or any other non-Muslim country in Europe.Being myself in various Muslim countries, I can't say that for them. Government politics is almost always different than the opinion of the majority. Sure, in the USA, there is extreme brainwashing because there are extreme amounts of money involved in the war machine, but that doesn't change previously mentioned.

If someone tells me that I need to pick to move between Saudia Arabia (that is probably richer than the USA) or the USA, I wouldn't think a minute just like 99% (that 1% left probably didn't understand the question) people that I know.

As I am concerned comparison is wrong, malicious and ugly just many other things you are saying here. If you are living in Serbia (hopefully not in some region with Muslims near Kosovo or Novi Pazar) you will know that we don't force woman to cover their faces, we don't stone them, we let them drive cars, we don't have a blood revenge, we don't beat people to death, we don't cut heads, we are not lying down on the streets praying to the good, we welcome black, yellow, white or any other people, we are not trying to modify countries where we go to accept our way of living although it is not different than in any other civilised state. (even if there are few millions Serbs living out of the country)

So, please, if you have an internal struggle to pick where you belong, that is a question for the psychiatric. There are some great ones here in Serbia, I've just done a website for one recently and can talk to her about some discount.

There are other nations and other groups of people that were intentionally satanized by medias but you didn't use that example to make comparison. Yes, there are normal Muslim countries (like Syria was or Libya) of course and you know that very well if you live in Serbia (many of their students were educated here and much business was done in those countries in previous decades).

At the end, Muslims here in Balkans are Islamized local people during the 500 years of Ottoman empire rule over the region. Ottomans used same principles as IS today (be killed, pay huge taxes or convert to Islam) and that is why Muslims here looks "white" .

Once again, one of my best friends is Muslim, but that doesn't change a thing about Arabs being another civilization that should be kept as far as possible from the Europe. And we can see why, every single day. I 've never heard about the Serb running with a bomb around detonating it in the populated city (although I've watched some American movie where Serbian guy is trying to activate nuke on his back inside NY, if I remember good). That is incredible stupid propaganda, but it is not a propaganda a fact that 2 days ago 9 years old Muslim girl was sent as the suicide bomber. Don't compare me to that crap, please.

At the end, I am out of this stupid thread and will make it clear. I don't know any single Serbian person having so much hate toward US, including people that were in army during the war. I've lost too much time on this post, already. Bye.
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I am mixed...I do not "belong" anywhere because I have a christian first name and a muslim sounding last name...I am a double refugee (croatia to kosovo and from kosovo to serbia) and I now live in serbia because there was no military draft here and it was the only country that did not ask me to pick up a gun and fight to prove I "belong"...
So you turned your back on your homeland, you're not loyal to Serbia, where you are a guest, and you hate America because, of course, everything wrong in the world is our fault.
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So stupid
Wearing a burqa AND mittens: Sure way nobody can distinguish them from penguins anymore
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That's funny is a strange sort of way ...

They don't wear gloves as it circumvents the principle.

Same as if you commit adultery wearing a condom it's OK.

Makes no sense to a secular man. Makes no sense to me.
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No,Muslims are not the news Serbs and I don't see any kind of connection.

While I was reading your comments in previous periods, (and I 've stopped long ago) I was almost sure that you have a Muslim wife or something like that, because no normal Serb would rather be on the Muslim side and so much against the USA. It is a pathological hate what you are doing here and I've never met a person with so much hate toward USA (except radical muslims, of course). It seems you gave the partial explanation in the post below mentioning that you have a Muslim surname. That explains a lot, regarding my opinion. Your anti-USA attitude is seriously hiding some extreme frustration that I don't expect from you to share here.

Yes, USA did what they did (like in many countries) and that was the extreme historical injustice, but most of the people from the US share absolutely same values as Serbs or any other non-Muslim country in Europe.Being myself in various Muslim countries, I can't say that for them. Government politics is almost always different than the opinion of the majority. Sure, in the USA, there is extreme brainwashing because there are extreme amounts of money involved in the war machine, but that doesn't change previously mentioned.

If someone tells me that I need to pick to move between Saudia Arabia (that is probably richer than the USA) or the USA, I wouldn't think a minute just like 99% (that 1% left probably didn't understand the question) people that I know.

As I am concerned comparison is wrong, malicious and ugly just many other things you are saying here. If you are living in Serbia (hopefully not in some region with Muslims near Kosovo or Novi Pazar) you will know that we don't force woman to cover their faces, we don't stone them, we let them drive cars, we don't have a blood revenge, we don't beat people to death, we don't cut heads, we are not lying down on the streets praying to the good, we welcome black, yellow, white or any other people, we are not trying to modify countries where we go to accept our way of living although it is not different than in any other civilised state. (even if there are few millions Serbs living out of the country)

So, please, if you have an internal struggle to pick where you belong, that is a question for the psychiatric. There are some great ones here in Serbia, I've just done a website for one recently and can talk to her about some discount.

There are other nations and other groups of people that were intentionally satanized by medias but you didn't use that example to make comparison. Yes, there are normal Muslim countries (like Syria was or Libya) of course and you know that very well if you live in Serbia (many of their students were educated here and much business was done in those countries in previous decades).

At the end, Muslims here in Balkans are Islamized local people during the 500 years of Ottoman empire rule over the region. Ottomans used same principles as IS today (be killed, pay huge taxes or convert to Islam) and that is why Muslims here looks "white" .

Once again, one of my best friends is Muslim, but that doesn't change a thing about Arabs being another civilization that should be kept as far as possible from the Europe. And we can see why, every single day. I 've never heard about the Serb running with a bomb around detonating it in the populated city (although I've watched some American movie where Serbian guy is trying to activate nuke on his back inside NY, if I remember good). That is incredible stupid propaganda, but it is not a propaganda a fact that 2 days ago 9 years old Muslim girl was sent as the suicide bomber. Don't compare me to that crap, please.

At the end, I am out of this stupid thread and will make it clear. I don't know any single Serbian person having so much hate toward US, including people that were in army during the war. I've lost too much time on this post, already. Bye.
I said I was "muslim" not really muslim...I have an ottomanized last name for example "agic" or "adzic" ....nobody in my family is religious and we have nothing to do with islam in any way...just a last name that sounds islamic to people who know...I live in belgrade and never had a single problem here ever...

I do not hate america at all...I just think they have a warmonger foreign policy and they make mucho $$$$ off of it...I think americans are mostly ignorant to the true effects of their foreign policy...

your views on islam are wrong however...keep in mind I am not religious, I piss on the quran and bible and all other fairy tale books...muslims are mostly good and kind people and I see a lot of similarities with serbs and the way they were satanized during the war...what islamic country did you go to? what is your bad experience based upon? I bet its egypt...




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So you turned your back on your homeland, you're not loyal to Serbia, where you are a guest, and you hate America because, of course, everything wrong in the world is our fault.
a truck full of chimps with guns came knocking on my door asking me to basically join them and go murder minorities for the "homeland"...those chimps had US support...staying and not murdering was not an option within this US supported chimp group...so I fled to kosovo where I was unfortunate enough to have family...same story, truck full of chimps going door to door with US support...so I fled to serbia...in sebia there were no chimps rounding up people for war...but US bombs started and I did not know how long it was going to last and I did not fancy being in a 20 year long "vietnam" type of scenario I went where I was completely safe from the USA: russia ...my homeland does not exist any more (yugoslavia) so there was not really an option to stay...I am yugoslavian but serbs took me in and never asked me to kill anybody...


I have no doubt in my mind the USA is to blame...but I forgave you all a long time ago and I troll from time to time on forums...not everything is the US gov.-s fault...but the 2 and 1/2 times I had to leave my life and start over are...
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I said I was "muslim" not really muslim...I have an ottomanized last name for example "agic" or "adzic" ....nobody in my family is religious and we have nothing to do with islam in any way...just a last name that sounds islamic to people who know...I live in belgrade and never had a single problem here ever...

I do not hate america at all...I just think they have a warmonger foreign policy and they make mucho $$$$ off of it...I think americans are mostly ignorant to the true effects of their foreign policy...

your views on islam are wrong however...keep in mind I am not religious, I piss on the quran and bible and all other fairy tale books...muslims are mostly good and kind people and I see a lot of similarities with serbs and the way they were satanized during the war...what islamic country did you go to? what is your bad experience based upon? I bet its egypt...

a truck full of chimps with guns came knocking on my door asking me to basically join them and go murder minorities for the "homeland"...those chimps had US support...staying and not murdering was not an option within this US supported chimp group...so I fled to kosovo where I was unfortunate enough to have family...same story, truck full of chimps going door to door with US support...so I fled to serbia...in sebia there were no chimps rounding up people for war...but US bombs started and I did not know how long it was going to last and I did not fancy being in a 20 year long "vietnam" type of scenario I went where I was completely safe from the USA: russia ...my homeland does not exist any more (yugoslavia) so there was not really an option to stay...I am yugoslavian but serbs took me in and never asked me to kill anybody...

I have no doubt in my mind the USA is to blame...but I forgave you all a long time ago and I troll from time to time on forums...not everything is the US gov.-s fault...but the 2 and 1/2 times I had to leave my life and start over are...
Even though we spar, tease and debate here, and I put you down for being as stupid as you are I really appreciate you telling your story. Thank you.
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