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Old 12-21-2016, 06:28 PM   #1
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Trump: We're not really going to drain the swamp. That was just something I said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gingrich-...173426892.html






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He does do things his way. Most elected officials at least wait to be sworn in before going back on all their campaign promises.
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Old 12-21-2016, 06:40 PM   #3
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Quote "Reagan said. ?As the old saying goes, ?When you?re up to your armpits in alligators, it?s sometimes hard to remember that your original intention was to drain the swamp.??

Didn't work then...won't work now...it's just a slogan to catch as many un-informed idiots as they can...even Pelosi used it - it's both parties

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Not surprised, someone from the establishment ran anti establishment in order to get elected! The sheeple fell for it
Once again the establishment wins!
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Like I said...Trump says whatever word salad will get him through the next few moments with a win. There's no thought given to long term consequences of his words. When I say "long term", I'm talking about 10 minutes into the future.
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Not draining the swamp, not locking her up, not building that wall, just gonna goto war and drain that treasury
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He has gone back on everything he promised. And he's not even in office yet.
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Another misleading title. He is not saying he is not going to drain the swamp, he is saying he does not like to use that specific slogan.
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Another misleading title. He is not saying he is not going to drain the swamp, he is saying he does not like to use that specific slogan.
Spin, spin..spin.. You are so predictable as are all the other Trumpbots.

Not a single one of you will man up and admit you were duped. You will just fall in line and agree with everything and defend everything he does.. Just like a good little team sport.

BTW Newt Gingrich also thinks Congress needs to fix the "ethics" laws because he thinks Trump can't abide by them... I'm sure you are ok with that as well..
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Another misleading title. He is not saying he is not going to drain the swamp, he is saying he does not like to use that specific slogan.



what ? you are ashamed to have been suckered ?
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must suck not being able to get over your self ... Merry Christmas!
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Clearly, they are talking about the slogan.

Besides, anyone can see that Trump has gotten more done as president-elect than Obama has in the same timeframe.
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Clearly, they are talking about the slogan.

Besides, anyone can see that Trump has gotten more done as president-elect than Obama has in the same timeframe.
What has he done? Named a bunch of billionaire lobbyists to the cabinet?

Serious, what has he done?
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What has he done? Named a bunch of billionaire lobbyists to the cabinet?

Serious, what has he done?
we can say Merry Christmas again... and that's a great fucking start
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If Trump didn?t ?burn it down,? he sure didn?t ?drain the swamp.? In fact, just today Gingrich, interviewed by NPR, said, ?I?m told he now just disclaims that. He now says it was cute, but he doesn?t want to use it anymore.? Well, how could he? Government by Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil is government by the swamp, of the swamp, and for the swamp. This isn?t a revolution, it?s a thoroughly conventional changing of the guard.

The list goes on. ?Lock her up?? Nope. Trump already announced that he wouldn?t pursue charges against Hillary Clinton, and two weeks ago at one of his ?thank you? rallies in Michigan, he interrupted the crowd?s chant with, ?That plays great before the election ? now we don?t care, right?? I guarantee the people who put ?Hillary for prison? signs in their yard cared. But Trump never did.
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You got played big time -- enjoy your victory.

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Another misleading title. He is not saying he is not going to drain the swamp, he is saying he does not like to use that specific slogan.
Bullshit.

Their people came to me and asked me since I attended numerous trump rallies if I liked their new slogan and I should use it when communicating with others about trump.
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I'm envisioning that on bumper stickers, t-shirts.


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we can say Merry Christmas again... and that's a great fucking start
Who stopped you from clickitty clicking Merry Christmas on your keyboard before? NOBODY!

My god you act like you've been shackled for 8 years in solidary confinement and are just now smelling fresh air not soiled by your shit and piss crusted hairless body of infected wounds.
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we can say Merry Christmas again... and that's a great fucking start
You fucking live in bumfuck Montana.. I'm pretty sure you never stopped saying "Merry Christmas".. I'm probably a "city folk" in your mind and I've never stopped saying it.

You righties are so duped into believing you are the constant victim. Stop listing to radio stations and news channels that are always telling you what to think. Think for your fucking self for once in your life.

Basically Trump hasn't done shit except run around the country stroking his ego and naming people with no experience but full of conflicts to his cabinet. He literally hasn't named a single fucking person to his cabinet that is qualified and isn't some form of cronie or lobbyist.

This is your country he is about to fuck up just the same as it's mine.. You probably wont even admit Bush fucked the economy, but if you aren't so bull headed and actually do understand this, Trump is going to be an even bigger disaster. He is putting guys into office to allow big business to strip you of any rights you still had left and rape the fucking tax payers. Open your fucking eyes and stop worrying about dumb shit you are told to be outraged about so you are distracted from what the fuck they are actually doing.

You claim you wanted to take the govt back , you just fucking handed what was left to big business and special interest.. Wake the fuck up..
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Trump is helping make the swamp great again!

Rather than drain it, Trump advisers opt to join D.C. swamp - CBS News

One of Donald Trump’s most trusted aides is setting up a government consulting shop a block from the White House - a move that complicates the president-elect’s promises to “drain the swamp” of Washington.

Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s first campaign manager, and former Trump adviser Barry Bennett announced Wednesday they are starting a government relations and political consulting firm called Avenue Strategies. They’re pitching their ties to Trump as they seek clients.



Trumps Quote about the news:

It's ok everyone, this is going to be great, it's such a really a good thing. This isn't the same as the other swamp, we are making it better we are making it great because it's my swap now. It's great! No need for middle men unless they are my guys, we are just putting them right into the govt. This is much better, it's great!"

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"Someone incorrectly stated that the phrase "DRAIN THE SWAMP" was no longer being used by me. Actually, we will always be trying to DTS," he tweeted

Trump denies Gingrich claim that he's dropping 'drain the swamp' - CNNPolitics.com

Gingrich is acting as if he's in the loop to make himself feel important. He's finished just like the rest of them.
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As I said (and usually have to point out those fact twisting libsters who can not grasp the point and make adequate conclusions), fact twisting Op was wrong (again and again):

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 7h7 hours ago

Someone incorrectly stated that the phrase "DRAIN THE SWAMP" was no longer being used by me. Actually, we will always be trying to DTS.
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump · 7h7 hours ago

Someone incorrectly stated that the phrase "DRAIN THE SWAMP" was no longer being used by me. Actually, we will always be trying to DTS.
Because appointing Goldman Sachs cronies is draining the swamp. ...Hook, line and sinker.
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Trumps Quote about the news:

It's ok everyone, this is going to be great, it's such a really a good thing. This isn't the same as the other swamp, we are making it better we are making it great because it's my swap now. It's great! No need for middle men unless they are my guys, we are just putting them right into the govt. This is much better, it's great!"

Is that quote a joke, or an actual thing he said? This whole thing has become so surreal the line is blurring between reality and satire.
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Because appointing Goldman Sachs cronies is draining the swamp. ...Hook, line and sinker.
Considering USA Inc has been in bankruptcy receivership by it's private lender the Federal Reserve of which Goldman is a shareholder and has been operating as such in a perpetual State of Emergency since the 1930's it should be no surprise that said owners place someone in that position. Trump has no choice there, that you can bank on.. This will never change no matter who is President until the Fed is abolished and the last person who tried that was JFK.
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Someone incorrectly stated that the phrase "DRAIN THE SWAMP" was no longer being used by me. Actually, we will always be trying to DTS.
"We will always be trying to DTS"? He sounds like a powerless pussy now compared to before:




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Considering USA Inc has been in bankruptcy receivership by it's private lender the Federal Reserve of which Goldman is a shareholder and has been operating as such in a perpetual State of Emergency since the 1930's it should be no surprise that said owners place someone in that position. Trump has no choice there, that you can bank on.. This will never change no matter who is President until the Fed is abolished and the last person who tried that was JFK.
Fake news. The US is not in "bankruptcy receivership". Bankruptcy and receivership are two different things.

Bankruptcy Alternatives: Receiverships and Assignment
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Fake news. The US is not in "bankruptcy receivership". Bankruptcy and receivership are two different things.

Bankruptcy Alternatives: Receiverships and Assignment
Facts don't matter to them it's a waste of time.

He defended the Trump U case saying the people were suckers, ignoring the fact that Trump was the one RIPPING OFF the suckers
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Fake news. The US is not in "bankruptcy receivership". Bankruptcy and receivership are two different things.

Bankruptcy Alternatives: Receiverships and Assignment
Did you even read your own article?

"For secured creditors, a federal receivership can offer the quickest and most cost-effective method of gaining control over a borrower’s collateral upon default. A federal receivership maintains the value of the collateral by allowing the business to continue to operate. The receiver will preserve and protect the collateral as well as the financial integrity of the business as a going concern. In addition, the receiver may be able to stabilize the operations to mitigate further potential losses"

Cal it what you want. The US was bankrupt and the Fed holds it in receivership.. The Fed was on a 20 year contract from 1913 to 1933. During which time it drained US Inc. of it's gold until what happened? Roosevelt was forced to seize the peoples gold to repay it's debt. They have been in receivership operating in a perpetual State of Emergency using the Feds paper currency since 1933. FACT JFK was killed because he wanted to return to the gold standard. FACT.



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Facts don't matter to them it's a waste of time.

He defended the Trump U case saying the people were suckers, ignoring the fact that Trump was the one RIPPING OFF the suckers
Point us to this post, prove where I said anything like that and I will never post here again. Sound good?
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Point us to this post, prove where I said anything like that and I will never post here again. Sound good?
So you're changing your mind or you still think Trump did no wrong ripping those people off?
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Incorrectly stated Phrase, picked up and quoted like it's fact ...by a Nolt

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Did you even read your own article?

"For secured creditors, a federal receivership can offer the quickest and most cost-effective method of gaining control over a borrower?s collateral upon default. A federal receivership maintains the value of the collateral by allowing the business to continue to operate. The receiver will preserve and protect the collateral as well as the financial integrity of the business as a going concern. In addition, the receiver may be able to stabilize the operations to mitigate further potential losses"

The Fed was on a 20 year contract from 1913 to 1933. During which time it drained US Inc. of it's gold until what happened? Roosevelt was forced to seize the peoples gold to repay it's debt. They have been in receivership operating in perpetual State of Emergency using the Feds paper currency since 1933. FACT

I did read the article. It says receivership is an alternative to bankruptcy. You said the US is in "bankruptcy receivership"...which means you did not know bankruptcy is different from receivership.
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Did you even read your own article?

"For secured creditors, a federal receivership can offer the quickest and most cost-effective method of gaining control over a borrower?s collateral upon default. A federal receivership maintains the value of the collateral by allowing the business to continue to operate. The receiver will preserve and protect the collateral as well as the financial integrity of the business as a going concern. In addition, the receiver may be able to stabilize the operations to mitigate further potential losses"

Cal it what you want. The US was bankrupt and the Fed holds it in receivership.. The Fed was on a 20 year contract from 1913 to 1933. During which time it drained US Inc. of it's gold until what happened? Roosevelt was forced to seize the peoples gold to repay it's debt. They have been in receivership operating in a perpetual State of Emergency using the Feds paper currency since 1933. FACT JFK was killed because he wanted to return to the gold standard. FACT.


That's the 2nd time you've referenced "US ,Inc". What specific entity are you referring to, and what state is "US, Inc." incorporated in?
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That's the 2nd time you've referenced "US ,Inc". What specific entity are you referring to, and what state is "US, Inc." incorporated in?
All US local State and Federal governments are incorporated.. Even President Barack Obama is incorporated. The man Barack Obama is acting on behalf of the corporation President Barack Obama. This is why cases brought against him are generally thrown out due to standing. Because they aren't bringing the case against the right entity.

Search dnb.com for any entity you want. Unfortunately now you have to pay but it's all there. I've posted it all here before they went to paid info..

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executive office of the united states government 1600 pennsylvania ave nw washington, DC - 20006

Hell even Canada is registered here in the US.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:50 PM   #39
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All US local State and Federal governments are incorporated.. Even President Barack Obama is incorporated. The man Barack Obama is acting on behalf of the corporation Barack Obama. This is why cases brought against him are generally thrown out due to standing. Because they aren't bring the case against the right entity.

Search dnb.com for any entity you want. Unfortunately now you have to pay but it's all there. I've posted it all here before they went to paid info..

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executive office of the united states government 1600 pennsylvania ave nw washington, DC - 20006

Hell even Canada is registered here in the US.

If you tell me the specific State that "US, Inc." incorporated in, then I can verify your claim.
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"We may say in passing that the argument that the
United States may be treated as a corporation

organized under its own laws, that is, under the
Constitution as the fundamental law, seems so strained
as not to merit serious consideration
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UNITED STATES v. COOPER CORPORATION | FindLaw
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"We may say in passing that the argument that the
United States may be treated as a corporation

organized under its own laws, that is, under the
Constitution as the fundamental law, seems so strained
as not to merit serious consideration
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UNITED STATES v. COOPER CORPORATION | FindLaw
That would be because it's not. It's maritime / contract law. Not Constitutional / Civil law. Everything was changed as a result of what was done in the 1930's. When it pertains to civil law /constitutional and maritime / contract law it revolves around this case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_R...o._v._Tompkins
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I never bought any of that rhetoric. I voted for him because I'm tired of PC, I'm tired of illegal immigrants and I'm tired of letting terrorists in. Anyone but hillary. I never bought any of the other bs. Not for a moment
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I never bought any of that rhetoric. I voted for him because I'm tired of PC, I'm tired of illegal immigrants and I'm tired of letting terrorists in. Anyone but hillary. I never bought any of the other bs. Not for a moment
She said today that she's putting her hat in for 2020 so that will be something to look forward to.
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I never bought any of that rhetoric. I voted for him because I'm tired of PC, I'm tired of illegal immigrants and I'm tired of letting terrorists in. Anyone but hillary. I never bought any of the other bs. Not for a moment
Yet he's not getting rid of illegals in fact he's trying to get 218 work permits for them at one of his business.. He's also not banning any Muslims..

EVERYTHING he said was bullshit not just the parts you don't care about..
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That would be because it's not. It's maritime / contract law. Not Constitutional / Civil law. Everything was changed as a result of what was done in the 1930's. When it pertains to civil law /constitutional and maritime / contract law it revolves around this case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_R...o._v._Tompkins
Except you're the one who referenced "US Inc."

Now you are saying the US is not a corporation

Get your story straight.
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If you tell me the specific State that "US, Inc." incorporated in, then I can verify your claim.
District of Columbia for most. Hell even entities of the government are separately incorporated. Here's a kicker for ya. If you do some searching check out the address listed for the Federal Reserve and I.R.S. It's the same.
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Except you're the one who referenced "US Inc."

Now you are saying the US is not a corporation

Get your story straight.
It is. Where did I say it wasn't? Corporations are not done under civil law....

Ah here's the confusion.. "under the Constitution as the fundamental law" That's what I meant by it's not.. It's not a corporation under constitutional law. It is under a form of maritime law. These people aren't stupid. They word things very carefully so as to not make record of what is really going on. So read your quote again taking into consideration it's not under constitutional law. There is a reason why there are civil law courts and separate >> maritime contract law courts.
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the address listed for the Federal Reserve and I.R.S. It's the same.
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It is. Where did I say it wasn't? Corporations are not done under civil law....

Ah here's the confusion.. "under the Constitution as the fundamental law" That's what I meant by it's not..
This is what you said: "That would be because it's not."
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District of Columbia for most. Hell even entities of the government are separately incorporated. Here's a kicker for ya. If you do some searching check out the address listed for the Federal Reserve and I.R.S. It's the same.
So if the US is a corporation, then what state is it incorporated in? Corporation law is a state power.
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