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Old 01-23-2017, 07:33 PM   #1
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BREAKING! Trump now receiving direct pay from registered foreign agents of Abu Dhabi.

Do you think this is wrong? In America its considered a conflict of interest for Trump to do so, according to the constitution.

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WASHINGTON ― President Donald Trump?s business receives direct payments from a registered foreign agent funded by the government of Abu Dhabi.

Trump has not sold his business interests, instead turning over management control to his sons, a move that ensures he will benefit any time any of his companies benefit.

The Abu Dhabi authority is not the only foreign government-backed organization paying Trump. Other tenants of Trump Tower include the Industrial & Commercial Bank of China and Qatar Airways, both of which are owned by their respective governments. In addition, The New York Times reported that Trump owes money to the Bank of China, another foreign government-owned entity.

The U.S. headquarters for the Abu Dhabi Tourism & Culture Authority is located on the 22nd floor of Trump Tower on Fifth Avenue ? just four floors below the president?s penthouse apartment. The authority, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment, promotes tourism to Abu Dhabi, which is part of the United Arab Emirates. It has been registered as a foreign agent with the U.S. Department of Justice since 2012.

?Normally, the fact that a foreign agent ? a registered foreign agent ? was paying money to the President of the United States would create blaring headlines around the world, but so vast and scandalous are the President?s conflicts of interest that it hardly raises an eyebrow,? said Norm Eisen, the former top ethics adviser to President Barack Obama.

President George W. Bush?s ethics lawyer Richard Painter ? and constitutional law professors, filed a federal lawsuit Monday alleging that Trump is in violation of the Constitution for his acceptance of payments from foreign government entities. Under the Constitution?s Emoluments Clause, the president is forbidden from receiving gifts or payments from foreign governments and foreign government-owned corporations.

FULL STORY Donald Trump's Is Receiving Direct Payments From Foreign Agents Right Now
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These kind of stories will be coming out every day...eventually one will stick because they can't all be dodged by denials.
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They are renting some apartments from one of the buildings he owns?
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These kind of stories will be coming out every day...eventually one will stick because they can't all be dodged by denials.
This is big because it's not payments for a room at a hotel. This is foreign agents directly paying a company Trump hasn't divested, so it's basically a black and white constitutional violation.Trump directly benefits from their foreign agent money.
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This is big because it's not payments for a room at a hotel. This is foreign agents directly paying a company Trump hasn't divested, so it's basically a black and white constitutional violation.Trump directly benefits from their foreign agent money.
Yeah but what about Hillary and her deleted emails, oh wait he can't say that anymore
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Yeah but what about Hillary and her deleted emails, oh wait he can't say that anymore

Give it some time.
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Yeah but what about Hillary and her deleted emails, oh wait he can't say that anymore
Failed deflection and off topic.

Uh oh! "And since at least 2012, his business has been taking a FARA registrant?s money. "
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I'm sorry to say this will not be news at all. He's so rife with scandal and corruption it will need to be something big.
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I'm sorry to say this will not be news at all. He's so rife with scandal and corruption it will need to be something big.
They filed a federal suit today based on these findings.

Trump Sued! Foreign Payments to Trump Violate Constitution
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If they are just paying fair market rent for commercial property this lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed.
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Besides the fact he is a landlord taking payments from tenants. I take it you missed the part where he put everything into a trust to be managed by his sons? Also the fact that he did that even though he didn't have to?
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Besides the fact he is a landlord taking payments from tenants. I take it you missed the part where he put everything into a trust to be managed by his sons? Also the fact that he did that even though he didn't have to?
Correct. He doesn't have to at all

Presidents are exempt
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If they are just paying fair market rent for commercial property this lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed.
These are actual registered foreign agents, this isn't about renting a room at one of his hotels.

Foreign agents are registered because their purpose is to spend money in our country to influence favor of theirs.

A lot of ifs, and Trump likes to ride close to the blade.
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These are actual registered foreign agents, this isn't about renting a room at one of his hotels.

Foreign agents are registered because their purpose is to spend money in our country to influence favor of theirs.

A lot of ifs, and Trump likes to ride close to the blade.
They are probably middle men for Russian payments to Trump
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We've had multiple investigations into this. There was no wrong doing.
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We've had multiple investigations into this. There was no wrong doing.
There was plenty of wrongdoing, you moron

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Besides the fact he is a landlord taking payments from tenants. I take it you missed the part where he put everything into a trust to be managed by his sons? Also the fact that he did that even though he didn't have to?
Show me where it is stated that he "he put everything into a trust" ....

He resigned f rom his cpompanies, letting his sons manage them ... but he is still the one doing the profits, anmd being paid by a foreign agent as president is illegal; ...

.. not mentuionning that his lease on the DC hotel is done with the Fedreal government, and that there is a clause preventing any federal representative from being part of the lease ...

so, link to the TRUST ....
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The DC Hotel lease was grandfathered in -- the deal signed before Trump took office. It's up to the courts to hear these cases if they ever come to trial.

This is how how rich guys get richer. They ignore, lie and then lawyer up if they have to.
Things look bad they settle out of court or pay fines without admitting guilt.

If you are poor and steal a six pack you might get 90 days LOL
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Show me where it is stated that he "he put everything into a trust" ....

He resigned f rom his cpompanies, letting his sons manage them ... but he is still the one doing the profits, anmd being paid by a foreign agent as president is illegal; ...

.. not mentuionning that his lease on the DC hotel is done with the Fedreal government, and that there is a clause preventing any federal representative from being part of the lease ...

so, link to the TRUST ....
You have to listen to his lawyer explain it all. If you "need" to hear the word trust that is first used around 3:25

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You have to listen to his lawyer explain it all. If you "need" to hear the word trust that is first used around 3:25

" ... have all been or will be conveyed to a trust prior to Jan. 20th ... "

show me , aside from his lawyers that it WILL be , that it has been done ... I think there should be at least one article about it or a tweet from Donald .....


... or is it alternate truth .... ?
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" ... have all been or will be conveyed to a trust prior to Jan. 20th ... "

show me , aside from his lawyers that it WILL be , that it has been done ... I think there should be at least one article about it or a tweet from Donald .....


... or is it alternate truth .... ?
Why wouldn't he put it into a trust? I'm surprised it's not already for tax reasons... Regardless of whether he did or didn't it's no concern of yours because he legally doesn't have to do anything. He could continue on managing it himself if he wanted. The ONLY reason he is doing anything is because of whiny bitches.
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This is big because it's not payments for a room at a hotel. This is foreign agents directly paying a company Trump hasn't divested, so it's basically a black and white constitutional violation.Trump directly benefits from their foreign agent money.
I think actually, both would be big. Whether its a room at his Hotel for a few thousand dollars or something bigger, the law is still being broken.


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If they are just paying fair market rent for commercial property this lawsuit is frivolous and will be dismissed.
It's not that simple. This is a violation of the US constitution's emoluments clause, which "prevents any ?Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.?"

Donald Trump faces lawsuit accusing him of violating US constitution by accepting foreign payments | The Independent


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Besides the fact he is a landlord taking payments from tenants. I take it you missed the part where he put everything into a trust to be managed by his sons? Also the fact that he did that even though he didn't have to?
It was supposed to sell it all, or put it into a Blind Trust. Giving it to his sons is not a blind trust. A blind Trust is a financial arrangement in which a person in public office gives the administration of private business interests to an independent trust in order to prevent conflict of interest. Under the trust, the owner does not know how the assets are managed.

To Trump's credit, putting everything into a blind trust is very hard for him to do. (Read this to learn why). He still should have done it, and he never should have been allowed to take office without doing it first.
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It was supposed to sell it all, or put it into a Blind Trust. Giving it to his sons is not a blind trust. A blind Trust is a financial arrangement in which a person in public office gives the administration of private business interests to an independent trust in order to prevent conflict of interest. Under the trust, the owner does not know how the assets are managed.

To Trump's credit, putting everything into a blind trust is very hard for him to do. (Read this to learn why). He still should have done it, and he never should have been allowed to take office without doing it first.
He's not "suppose" to do anything but be President. He doesn't have to do ANYTHING with his businesses. Nothing.
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This is a violation of the US constitution's emoluments clause, which "prevents any ?Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.?"
Could you imagine if the GOP controlled congress votes to let Trump take money from anyone? I wouldn't put it past this congress.
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Let's see if it ever goes to court Mark ...
The congress' intent is what counts and not the literal reading of the law.
The intent was to eliminate bribery and graft.
If it's ruled a fair land lease in commerce the complaint will be dismissed.
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Why wouldn't he put it into a trust? I'm surprised it's not already for tax reasons... Regardless of whether he did or didn't it's no concern of yours because he legally doesn't have to do anything. He could continue on managing it himself if he wanted. The ONLY reason he is doing anything is because of whiny bitches.
so it was alernative facts that you stated .

There is no point to explain to you the issue about payments from foreign agents ....

Instead, let's bitch sabout the Clinton foundation ... or her emails ....
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so it was alernative facts that you stated .

There is no point to explain to you the issue about payments from foreign agents ....

Instead, let's bitch sabout the Clinton foundation ... or her emails ....
As you can see in that announcement of his intentions there are stacks and stacks of folders containing the information about the plans to be handed out. I'm sure every reporter there grabbed one. Why no one is reporting on those plans might be a good clue to you that you're chasing your tail.
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He's not "suppose" to do anything but be President. He doesn't have to do ANYTHING with his businesses. Nothing.
Let me put it another way.

Legally speaking, it seems he doesn't have to. Donald Trump'''s Conflicts of Interest: Why Aren'''t They Illegal? | Fortune.com

But don't you think that he owes this to you and to all Americans as a sign of trust? Trump has so much business all over the world, how do you know that he won't make a decision as President, that benefits him more than you? Or how do you know that some country somewhere with 1 or more Trump properties won't use their powers against Trump because those properties exit? Are you not afraid of Trump providing political favours to some people just because it would mean more money for a Trump Hotel?
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Let me put it another way.

Legally speaking, it seems he doesn't have to. Donald Trump'''s Conflicts of Interest: Why Aren'''t They Illegal? | Fortune.com

But don't you think that he owes this to you and to all Americans as a sign of trust? Trump has so much business all over the world, how do you know that he won't make a decision as President, that benefits him more than you? Or how do you know that some country somewhere with 1 or more Trump properties won't use their powers against Trump because those properties exit? Are you not afraid of Trump providing political favours to some people just because it would mean more money for a Trump Hotel?
Presidents in America can't do whatever they want.

Presidents in America have to follow laws and constitution, they are not a king, they are not a dictator. Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon & Bill Clinton know this from impeachments.
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As you can see in that announcement of his intentions there are stacks and stacks of folders containing the information about the plans to be handed out. Why no one is reporting on those plans might be a good clue to you that you're chasing your tail.
You mean these?









No titles? No labels? No sticky notes? They sort of look a little different than these papers..



Don't they?
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Presidents in America can't do whatever they want.

Presidents in America have to follow laws and constitution, they are not kung, they are not dictators. Andrew Johnson, Richard Nixon & Bill Clinton know this from impeachments.
Correct sir, thank you.
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You mean these?









No titles? No labels? No sticky notes? They sort of look a little different than these papers..



Don't they?
Not sure what your point is but yes those..
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You mean these?









No titles? No labels? No sticky notes? They sort of look a little different than these papers..



Don't they?
Those are fake props to mislead people.

Remember when Trump had Trump steaks as props for this press conference?


Trump steaks had been out of business for 9 years, you can't buy them, they are no longer a product, for 9 years. But Trump lied and put them up as a prop to his successful business ventures.

Trump lied without impunity to create a false reality that fits a narrative he wants. I'm sure he'll do this a number of times as president to take us into war etc.

A Definitive History of Trump Steaks
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Looks like Donald is too vain to wear his reading glasses LOL
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Spencer said they wont lie about lying anymore LOL
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As you can see in that announcement of his intentions there are stacks and stacks of folders containing the information about the plans to be handed out. I'm sure every reporter there grabbed one. Why no one is reporting on those plans might be a good clue to you that you're chasing your tail.
yep, wonder why no one is reporting on the content :

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But the internet isn?t so sure that complex legal document reside in the curiously neat folders. And after the press was denied access to the content of the folders, speculation ran wild as to what was really in there.
you are so gullible ...

Trump is a " reality show " host : he is used to make fake look like real .... He is just continuing his TV shows, this time in the White House instead of his own office
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Do you think this is wrong? In America its considered a conflict of interest for Trump to do so, according to the constitution.

FULL STORY Donald Trump's Is Receiving Direct Payments From Foreign Agents Right Now
this isnīt breaking news. I read about this & posted about it in a thread yesterday...

ethnic lawyers have a lawsuit against him

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yep, wonder why no one is reporting on the content :



you are so gullible ...

Trump is a " reality show " host : he is used to make fake look like real .... He is just continuing his TV shows, this time in the White House instead of his own office
Your quote comes from abovethelaw.com who is quoting a "beyond fake news" site bipartisanreport.com (so far left they fell off) Good try but very telling as to why you didn't post your source.
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this isnīt breaking news. I read about this & posted about it in a thread yesterday...

ethnic lawyers have a lawsuit against him

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When I made the thread YESTERDAY it was breaking news
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Your quote comes from abovethelaw.com who is quoting a "beyond fake news" site bipartisanreport.com (so far left they fell off) Good try but very telling as to why you didn't post your source.
coming from a conspiracy nutcase ...

Here you go for other sources :

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Trump stood at a podium next to a pile of manila folders on a table. But only well into the press conference did he later explain the papers were documentation of his new business arrangement, details of which were explained only when Trump abruptly ceded the stage to his lawyer. Trump staffers blocked reporters from examining the folders.

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The folders were stuffed with papers that Trump said were ?some of the many documents? in which he had signed over control of his company to his sons. His aides, however, refused to let anyone see the papers.

The Guardian : https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...lation-tactics
give me a link that he DID allow reporeters to brpowse thru them, or that he did later divulge the actual files .

meanwhile, continue with your alternative facts ....
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coming from a conspiracy nutcase ...

Here you go for other sources :







give me a link that he DID allow reporeters to brpowse thru them, or that he did later divulge the actual files .

meanwhile, continue with your alternative facts ....
This is what OnWebcam does. His pattern is:

1) Deny

2) Demand proof ( make you prove it by taking the time/trouble finding/posting links etc )

3) Deny validity of proof

This is why I blocked him. He'll completely waste your time and energy and deny common knowledge facts with posted links as proof. He's a dead end smothered by misogyny in Tennessee.
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Internet court

Took a lot take Nixon down years ago
A lot of this is just wasted efforts

The harassment value is entertaining though
Making the Trump act stupid until he really fucks up
That day may come ... carry on
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Old 01-25-2017, 03:09 AM   #47
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