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Old 01-26-2017, 11:39 AM   #1
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Trump does not suck as bad as you think.

If you are liberal or Democrat, you were against free trade to start with as it is good for business and bad for labor. He is acting like an union boss at the moment and this is weird but not maybe a bad thing.

The wall, well who cares? If Mexico is mad, it is not a big deal.

We have yet to any real action on the side of conservatives.

Just trying to be the voice of reason this.
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We need a wall

Every fucking celebrity has a wall around their house to keep out the ferrals...same thing here
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:03 PM   #3
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Well, let's review his first week!

First he and his entire staff lied about the inauguration numbers. It was painfully obvious that the inauguration was poorly attended - the pictures and the numbers both prove this. Instead of accepting this, he wanted to argue and lie about it. Sean Spencer's first press briefing was based on this and made a complete, total, and utter ass out of himself.

Then he went to the CIA and continued to make an ass out of himself. He claimed he never had a "problem" and tried to make it out like it was the press making a mountain out of a molehill when everyone has seen Drumpf bitching about the CIA on video. Drumpf tried to spin this as a huge success, but the top brass at the intelligence agencies are saying it was odd, uncomfortable, and did nothing to improve relations between Trump and the intelligence agencies.

Next up Trump went on a rampage with executive orders. You know, the same exact executive orders he complained about during the campaign.

He killed two trade agreements. Sounds great on paper but what did this accomplish? He took all of the power from the United States in trade agreements and handed it directly to China. At the same time he ensured a lot of our products will go up in cost because companies will either have to pay a tariff or have increased costs from making products in the US.

He is going to bring jobs back to the US with his trade agreement? Unemployment is 4.7%. Let's see how well that works in the next two years. He's promised coal country jobs will return but the reality is no one wants coal any more.

Trump put into a place a hiring freeze for all government agencies. The VA has some 3600 open jobs - so much for taking care of our veterans. Not to mention our national parks hires some eight thousand seasonal employees. Our government cannot operate like this.

Of course there is the wall with Mexico. He wants to spend tens of billions of dollars on a wall that will nothing to stop a problem that doesn't exist - Under Obama we've deported more illegals than ever before and did it without any deportation force.

Now he wants to investigate election fraud that everyone knows doesn't exist.

Trump has also pissed off Mexico and China and most of Europe. Now he wants to pull out of the United Nations.

Seriously, What the fuck?
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LOL. Seems my "drumpf" extension (which changes his name to Drumpf) changes it when I preview the text on GFY....
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He is acting like an union boss at the moment and this is weird but not maybe a bad thing.

The wall, well who cares? If Mexico is mad, it is not a big deal.

We have yet to any real action on the side of conservatives.
You won't see any real conservative action taken - not under Trump - he's way too liberal - you are entirely correct about his union boss attitude

The wall is just a carrot - most of it has existed already for years and does nothing to stop any entry - it's just fake news to give a rallying cry to his base

The increased tension of people against Trump primarily flows from the Progressives - not liberals...The primary game he is playing is trying to pit centrists against other centrists that just isn't going to play out very well in the end
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Trump has done more for America in his first week than any other President combined in their 4 years!
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You won't see any real conservative action taken - not under Trump - he's way too liberal - you are entirely correct about his union boss attitude

The wall is just a carrot - most of it has existed already for years and does nothing to stop any entry - it's just fake news to give a rallying cry to his base

The increased tension of people against Trump primarily flows from the Progressives - not liberals...The primary game he is playing is trying to pit centrists against other centrists that just isn't going to play out very well in the end
If wall dont work then why do you live in a house?
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Yeah a lot of talk and no action at all yet.

Trumps executive orders have to be funded through congress, that will take a while. 90% of Trump supporters think an executive order means it's been done or "starting now".

The GOP just announced their 100 day plan is delayed to a 200 day plan now. The media is hyper reactive to prove they're actually doing their job now ( too little too late ).

Trump has a 50 year business history of overpromising, underdelivering,n it paying, breaking laws & going bankrupt.

Trump will have an interesting run.
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Yeah a lot of talk and no action at all yet.

Trumps executive orders have to be funded through congress, that will take a while. 90% of Trump supporters think an executive order means it's been done or "starting now".

The GOP just announced their 100 day plan is delayed to a 200 day plan now. The media is hyper reactive to prove they're actually doing their job now ( too little too late ).

Trump has a 50 year business history of overpromising, underdelivering,n it paying, breaking laws & going bankrupt.

Trump will have an interesting run.
Ugh it does mean it's starting right now

He has a long history of being amazingly successful and underpromising and overdelivering. The guy is a MULTI billionaire

What planet do you people fucking live on!?
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I have made my living off global trade since 2004.

You have a point he is behaving like a union leader but one with Machiavellian tendencies see: duplicity

But he is a businessman megalomaniac billionaire. Everyone that does business with him seems to eventually get screwed. Some end up taking him to court and getting paid off to go away. Others end up screwed in Bankruptcy court when Trump really fucks up.

Trump hasn't had the opportunity to deal with a bona-fide international or domestic case of terrorism yet either.

I don't think he is a classic idiot. Better said he is an egotistical fool.
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If wall dont work then why do you live in a house?
What the fuck does a house have to do with a separation wall between countries - get your head out of liberal lala land you fucking socialist
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LOL. He was born rich. He could have safely invested his money and made more.

Most of what he owns isn't owned by him, it's owned by banks, or other people. In the mean time he just rips people off - like the two million dollar lawsuit filed against him this week because he refuses to pay the workers who rushed to finish his hotel. Which, surprise, isn't his because he is leasing it from the US government.
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I have made my living off global trade since 2004.

You have a point he is behaving like a union leader but one with Machiavellian tendencies see: duplicity

But he is a businessman megalomaniac billionaire. Everyone that does business with him seems to eventually get screwed. Some end up taking him to court and getting paid off to go away. Others end up screwed in Bankruptcy court when Trump really fucks up.

Trump hasn't had the opportunity to deal with a bona-fide international or domestic case of terrorism yet either.

I don't think he is a classic idiot. Better said he is an egotistical fool.
I think he also misses the big picture in that other leaders don't need to make deals. As they look strong, they probably get re-elected. The Mexico thing is a good example. He just has to keep saying to paying for the wall and he is fine.

He is used to both sides wanting to get a deal where as doing nothing is usually a decent choice for a govt.
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If you are liberal or Democrat, you were against free trade to start with as it is good for business and bad for labor. He is acting like an union boss at the moment and this is weird but not maybe a bad thing.

The wall, well who cares? If Mexico is mad, it is not a big deal.

We have yet to any real action on the side of conservatives.

Just trying to be the voice of reason this.
the guy´s nearly starting war with China. I see the Chinese president chatting on TV today, he said, Trump´s obviously creating the war, we´re ready & prepared.

The rest of the world is totally against how Trump is & tomorrow, May is meeting him, wondering whether she ruffles his feathers or bows down. Hoping she stands strong for the UK, because otherwise there´s going to be riots in the UK. Nearly all of Britain are up for her asking him questions over his ridiculous comments of torture & how he treats women.

We shall have to see how this pans out
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Drumpfs executive orders have to be funded through congress, that will take a while. 90% of Trump supporters think an executive order means it's been done or "starting now".
Most of his "executive orders" are nothing more than press releases. He cannot order a wall into existence - it doesn't work that way. He is acting like the wall will be built in six months. It won't be. They will have to survey everything, decide exactly what needs to be built, and then contractors will have to put in bids.

All of this is pointless. They majority of illegals do not "cross the border in the middle of the night" but instead just drive over, and a wall wouldn't stop anything.
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Most of his "executive orders" are nothing more than press releases. He cannot order a wall into existence - it doesn't work that way. He is acting like the wall will be built in six months. It won't be. They will have to survey everything, decide exactly what needs to be built, and then contractors will have to put in bids.

All of this is pointless. They majority of illegals do not "cross the border in the middle of the night" but instead just drive over, and a wall wouldn't stop anything.

exactly this.. also, getting in a boat just 10 miles up the road in Mexico & jumping off at California beach sounds nice at this time of the year too
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Everything is going according to plan. Have no fear. The USA will be a great 3rd world country when Trump is finished.

The rich will have everything. The middle class will be gone. The other 99% will be poor.

I am so thrilled that I think I just wet myself a little.
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LOL. He was born rich. He could have safely invested his money and made more.

Most of what he owns isn't owned by him, it's owned by banks, or other people. In the mean time he just rips people off - like the two million dollar lawsuit filed against him this week because he refuses to pay the workers who rushed to finish his hotel. Which, surprise, isn't his because he is leasing it from the US government.

Total Donald Trump Net Worth Min $4,432,629,650 Max $6,365,610,989
Average Donald Trump Net Worth $5,399,120,320
Total Donald Trump Debts Min $315,350,011 Max $1,169,750,000

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That is just what assets that are commonly known and this is his actual worth. As far as land leases. That's very common especially in commercial. Most of the leases of his I've seen are 80-100 year leases. He will be long gone. His grand kids will be enjoying those. Most of his key properties are owned outright. His "brand" selling isn't where his money comes from.

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Trump won on a ticket of putting Americans First. Previous administrations put the 1% first and being politically correct second. Over the last 40 years, the West has increasingly exported job to import back the goods to make money for the few and make many poorer. This is still happening. Trump can be the start or not. It's up to voters to stop voting for people dedicated to making voters poorer.

Pity the EU doesn't put Europeans first.

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Is this how you came to be sponging off your host country Paul ?
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Stop thinking I live like you Damian.
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