Pro-Trump mindset behind 8-year voter fraud sentence - GoFuckYourself.com

brassmonkey · 02-11-2017, 09:18 AM

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - A lawyer for a Mexican national sentenced to eight years in prison for voter fraud in Texas said that President Donald Trump's widely debunked claims of election rigging was "the 800-pound gorilla" in the jury box.

Rosa Maria Ortega, 37, was convicted in Fort Worth this week on two felony counts of illegal voting over allegations that she improperly cast a ballot five times between 2005 and 2014. Her attorney, Clark Birdsall, said Friday that Ortega was a permanent resident who was brought to the U.S. as a baby and mistakenly thought she was eligible to vote. He said she voted Republican, including for Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, whose office helped prosecute her.

The sentence was stark - voter fraud convictions, which are rare, many times result in probation. And as a convicted felon, Ortega will very likely be deported after serving her sentence. Tarrant County prosecutors say jurors made clear they value voting rights, but Birdsall said he believes Ortega would have fared better in a county with fewer "pro-Trump" attitudes.

Trump carried North Texas' Tarrant County with 52 percent of the vote in November. Birdsall said he wanted to steer the jury of 10 women and two men from any lingering thoughts about Trump's unproven claims that 3 million people illegally voted in 2016 but the judge wouldn't allow him.

"It was the 800-pound gorilla sitting in the jury box," Birdsall said. "I would have said, 'You cannot hold this woman accountable for Donald Trump's fictitious 3 million votes.'" Birdsall said the Texas attorney general's office had agreed to leniency in exchange for Ortega testifying to lawmakers about illegal voting, but said Tarrant County District Attorney Sharon Wilson quashed those talks. A Wilson spokeswoman acknowledged plea negotiations but would not divulge details. A spokesman for the attorney general did not respond to an email seeking comment.

Birdsall said Ortega has lived in the U.S. since she was a baby and has four teenage children. He said Ortega had learning disabilities and only a sixth-grade education. Sam Jordan, a spokeswoman for Wilson, said the decision to prosecute had "absolutely nothing" to do with immigration.

"This is a voter rights case. Does she consider voter rights important? Yes she does," Jordan said of the district attorney. "And she thought it was important enough to go forward to a jury and let the jury of citizens decide, and they decided pretty clearly how important they think voting rights are."

Texas is one of many Republican-led states that have pushed for tighter requirements on voters to show identification at the polls. Supporters say such measures are necessary to combat voter fraud and increase public confidence in elections. But research has shown that in-person fraud at the polls is extremely rare, and critics of these restrictions warn that they will hurt mostly poor people, minorities and students - all of whom tend to vote Democratic - as well as the elderly.

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wehateporn · 02-11-2017, 09:23 AM

Vote Fraud in Michigan Favored Hillary Clinton, Not Trump » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

crockett · 02-11-2017, 09:26 AM

Yet again the only voter fraud that has been found, has been right wing Trump supporters. Send them to jail with felony convictions so they can never cast a vote again.

brassmonkey · 02-11-2017, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Yet again the only voter fraud that has been found, has been right wing Trump supporters. Send them to jail with felony convictions so they can never cast a vote again.

wrong! you can get your rights restored.

directfiesta · 02-11-2017, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Vote Fraud in Michigan Favored Hillary Clinton, Not Trump » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Alex Jones : FAKE NEWS

MaDalton · 02-11-2017, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Vote Fraud in Michigan Favored Hillary Clinton, Not Trump » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

where's Alex Jones report about this

https://www.thenation.com/article/ho...ant-be-hacked/

Republicans Just Voted to Eliminate the Only Federal Agency That Ensures Voting Machines Aren't Hacked

beerptrol · 02-11-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn

Vote Fraud in Michigan Favored Hillary Clinton, Not Trump » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

You'd be better off getting your news from the local nut house's Public-access channel. Run by the looney for the looney like Alex Jones, but less looney than him

thommy · 02-11-2017, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

where's Alex Jones report about this

https://www.thenation.com/article/ho...ant-be-hacked/

Republicans Just Voted to Eliminate the Only Federal Agency That Ensures Voting Machines Aren't Hacked

well maybe the next vote is against elections. that safes a lot of costs in the next few hundret years. th funny on that is, that the reps always conter that with HILLARY fraudet the election. but when i hear that i have an unanswered question.
if she manipulated the elections, why did she not win?

there are onyl 2 possible anwers:

a. she was not smart enough
or
b. trump manipulated better than her

Bladewire · 02-11-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Alex Jones : FAKE NEWS

WeHateAmerica has no integrity and links to disinformation sites daily.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-11-2017, 04:51 PM

Millions of illegals voted in CA and NY and not for Trump

Pete · 02-11-2017, 05:50 PM

Throw her in the hole!!

directfiesta · 02-11-2017, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Millions of illegals voted in CA and NY and not for Trump

Russians hacked the polling station and entered millions of vote for Trump .

brassmonkey · 02-11-2017, 07:11 PM

he was telling the kid to cough it up while he was beating him

baddog · 02-11-2017, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

Russians hacked the polling station and entered millions of vote for Trump .

Impossible. Polling stations are not connected to the Internet.

directfiesta · 02-11-2017, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Impossible. Polling stations are not connected to the Internet.

damn, you are a real senile moron ....

can't even see the tic for tac answer to johnyshits ....

Go get a glass of prune juice .

TCLGirls · 02-11-2017, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Impossible. Polling stations are not connected to the Internet.

Were you under the erroneous impression that only computers connected to the internet can be hacked? Go watch some Mr. Robot

Bladewire · 02-11-2017, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Were you under the erroneous impression...

That is the story of Badslob's life

thommy · 02-12-2017, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Millions of illegals voted in CA and NY and not for Trump

show us the prove !

02-11-2017, 09:18 AM	#1
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 76,946	Pro-Trump mindset behind 8-year voter fraud sentence AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - A lawyer for a Mexican national sentenced to eight years in prison for voter fraud in Texas said that President Donald Trump's widely debunked claims of election rigging was "the 800-pound gorilla" in the jury box. Rosa Maria Ortega, 37, was convicted in Fort Worth this week on two felony counts of illegal voting over allegations that she improperly cast a ballot five times between 2005 and 2014. Her attorney, Clark Birdsall, said Friday that Ortega was a permanent resident who was brought to the U.S. as a baby and mistakenly thought she was eligible to vote. He said she voted Republican, including for Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, whose office helped prosecute her. The sentence was stark - voter fraud convictions, which are rare, many times result in probation. And as a convicted felon, Ortega will very likely be deported after serving her sentence. Tarrant County prosecutors say jurors made clear they value voting rights, but Birdsall said he believes Ortega would have fared better in a county with fewer "pro-Trump" attitudes. Trump carried North Texas' Tarrant County with 52 percent of the vote in November. Birdsall said he wanted to steer the jury of 10 women and two men from any lingering thoughts about Trump's unproven claims that 3 million people illegally voted in 2016 but the judge wouldn't allow him. "It was the 800-pound gorilla sitting in the jury box," Birdsall said. "I would have said, 'You cannot hold this woman accountable for Donald Trump's fictitious 3 million votes.'" Birdsall said the Texas attorney general's office had agreed to leniency in exchange for Ortega testifying to lawmakers about illegal voting, but said Tarrant County District Attorney Sharon Wilson quashed those talks. A Wilson spokeswoman acknowledged plea negotiations but would not divulge details. A spokesman for the attorney general did not respond to an email seeking comment. Birdsall said Ortega has lived in the U.S. since she was a baby and has four teenage children. He said Ortega had learning disabilities and only a sixth-grade education. Sam Jordan, a spokeswoman for Wilson, said the decision to prosecute had "absolutely nothing" to do with immigration. "This is a voter rights case. Does she consider voter rights important? Yes she does," Jordan said of the district attorney. "And she thought it was important enough to go forward to a jury and let the jury of citizens decide, and they decided pretty clearly how important they think voting rights are." Texas is one of many Republican-led states that have pushed for tighter requirements on voters to show identification at the polls. Supporters say such measures are necessary to combat voter fraud and increase public confidence in elections. But research has shown that in-person fraud at the polls is extremely rare, and critics of these restrictions warn that they will hurt mostly poor people, minorities and students - all of whom tend to vote Democratic - as well as the elderly. article... __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - Support The Laken Riley Act!!! END DACA - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

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