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bhutocracy · 04-11-2003, 09:57 PM

Gains for Australia in wheat win
By Elisabeth Sexton
April 12 2003

The unloading of Australian wheat in Kuwait this week was not only genuinely good news for hungry Iraqis.

It was a positive sign for Australia's efforts to participate in the reconstruction of Iraq.

While there is scant appetite by the government or local companies to be seen to be thinking about profiting from the war, there is equally little enthusiasm to sit back and let corporate America reap all the opportunities from rebuilding.

The Prime Minister, John Howard, said the Government would proceed "with a very clear eye to Iraq's long term future, but also to our own national interest in terms of peace and security and of commercial interests".

The wheat breakthrough was significant to those commercial interests for two reasons.

One is the simple fact that it arrived first. A United States aid shipment was loaded with much fanfare at Galveston, Texas, on April 3, but will not arrive in the Middle East for several weeks.

The Americans have made some aggressive comments about their desire to re-enter the market where Australian wheat has been sold for 50 years.

The US lobby group, US Wheat Associates, publishes regular criticism of the Australian Wheat Board on its website, with current comments being about "the wheat contract they have with Saddam's regime" and "folks at the AWB ... with mercantilism on their minds during this most dangerous time".

The second important aspect was that the United Nations agreed to pay for the Australian wheat under its reactivated oil-for-food program.

Until this was announced on Wednesday, the Government had intended to pay for the shipment, which would have used up $83 million of the $100 million Australia has committed to Iraqi aid.

As part of the deal with the UN, Australia agreed to put $38 million into the humanitarian appeal set up by the UN on March 28. This still left $62 million for other aid projects.

That money is yet to be allocated, but if any of it is directed towards specific projects to be carried out by the private sector, AusAID will give its usual priority to Australian companies.

The sum is not large in the context of the expected budget to rebuild Iraq, which some US analysts are putting as high as $US100 billion ($165 billion).

But just as the arrival of the wheat could give Australian farmers a strategic advantage, contracts under the initial aid budget could help establish Australian engineering, agricultural or consulting companies.

Again the main competition will come from Australia's military partner, the US, which is already commissioning reconstruction work from American companies.

The potential for tension was evident on Wednesday. Mr Howard was unequivocal about supporting a leading role for the US after the war.

"There has to be an interim period of administration by the power that is there as a result of the toppling of the regime and that is inevitably that of the military forces that are there, and there will be undeniably an interim period of a US-led administration," Mr Howard said. "There's no practical alternative to that. It's really a matter of ordinary logic."

But the same day, the Minister for Agriculture, Warren Truss, was sending a different type of message to Washington.

"We have been concerned about the US's use of a mixture of aid and commercial services to break into new markets," he said. "We would expect the US to respect the market that we have in Iraq."

ronin · 04-11-2003, 10:01 PM

stupid.

bhutocracy · 04-11-2003, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by ronin

stupid.

If you don't understand, please refrain from showing your ignorance.

pine · 04-11-2003, 10:04 PM

...it's all about the wheat!

Fletch XXX · 04-11-2003, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by ronin

stupid.

simpleton.

bhutocracy · 04-11-2003, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pine
...it's all about the wheat!

Hell yeah

I've warned of this over the past month or so, we spend a billion supporting the US military, and in return we might get pounded right in the ass economically.. the early signs are looking good for us and I hope they stay that way, but US wheat will do everything in their power to screw us over.
You watch, we got fucked on steel and lamb... time will tell. Howard had better be licking Bushes ass for our share of the loot, let alone keeping the contracts we already had.
I know it's just business.. but for fucks sake, don't fuck your allies

Joe Sixpack · 04-11-2003, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by ronin

stupid.

You're a fucking moron.

I suppose you don't understand words of more than one syllable.

hybrid · 04-11-2003, 10:22 PM

As if it's up to anyone on GFY whether or not it pays off/backfires.

christ.

bhutocracy · 04-11-2003, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hybrid
As if it's up to anyone on GFY whether or not it pays off/backfires.

christ.

knowledge is power.

hybrid · 04-11-2003, 10:42 PM

Quote:

knowledge is power.

Thus corruption.

bhutocracy · 04-11-2003, 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Thus corruption.

ha not so, the addage is "absolutely power corrupts absolutely". Knowing the deeds of your politicians gives you the power to exercise an educated democratic vote, not corrupt it.

Paul Markham · 04-11-2003, 11:32 PM

Why the surprise? Everyone is going to be trying to get into the Iraqi market. Looking like the good boys now will pay off in the future. Remember this is the second largest oil reserve in the world.

The US will never look good here while they support Israel. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Let Israel fight on it's own and more Arab nations will favour the US, support Israel and less Arab nations will support the US. Simple.

bhutocracy · 04-11-2003, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Why the surprise? Everyone is going to be trying to get into the Iraqi market. Looking like the good boys now will pay off in the future. Remember this is the second largest oil reserve in the world.

The US will never look good here while they support Israel. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Let Israel fight on it's own and more Arab nations will favour the US, support Israel and less Arab nations will support the US. Simple.

no surprise here, It's backing up what I've been saying for months.

hybrid · 04-11-2003, 11:38 PM

Quote:

ha not so, the addage is "absolutely power corrupts absolutely". Knowing the deeds of your politicians gives you the power to exercise an educated democratic vote, not corrupt it.

Wrong perception.

My statement is based on my personal theory:

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts; knowledge corrupts.

bhutocracy · 04-11-2003, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hybrid
Wrong perception.

My statement is based on my personal theory:

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts; knowledge corrupts.

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BEDEVERE: And therefore?

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04-11-2003, 09:57 PM	#1
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	please don't fuck us in the ass. Gains for Australia in wheat win By Elisabeth Sexton April 12 2003 The unloading of Australian wheat in Kuwait this week was not only genuinely good news for hungry Iraqis. It was a positive sign for Australia's efforts to participate in the reconstruction of Iraq. While there is scant appetite by the government or local companies to be seen to be thinking about profiting from the war, there is equally little enthusiasm to sit back and let corporate America reap all the opportunities from rebuilding. The Prime Minister, John Howard, said the Government would proceed "with a very clear eye to Iraq's long term future, but also to our own national interest in terms of peace and security and of commercial interests". The wheat breakthrough was significant to those commercial interests for two reasons. One is the simple fact that it arrived first. A United States aid shipment was loaded with much fanfare at Galveston, Texas, on April 3, but will not arrive in the Middle East for several weeks. The Americans have made some aggressive comments about their desire to re-enter the market where Australian wheat has been sold for 50 years. The US lobby group, US Wheat Associates, publishes regular criticism of the Australian Wheat Board on its website, with current comments being about "the wheat contract they have with Saddam's regime" and "folks at the AWB ... with mercantilism on their minds during this most dangerous time". The second important aspect was that the United Nations agreed to pay for the Australian wheat under its reactivated oil-for-food program. Until this was announced on Wednesday, the Government had intended to pay for the shipment, which would have used up $83 million of the $100 million Australia has committed to Iraqi aid. As part of the deal with the UN, Australia agreed to put $38 million into the humanitarian appeal set up by the UN on March 28. This still left $62 million for other aid projects. That money is yet to be allocated, but if any of it is directed towards specific projects to be carried out by the private sector, AusAID will give its usual priority to Australian companies. The sum is not large in the context of the expected budget to rebuild Iraq, which some US analysts are putting as high as $US100 billion ($165 billion). But just as the arrival of the wheat could give Australian farmers a strategic advantage, contracts under the initial aid budget could help establish Australian engineering, agricultural or consulting companies. Again the main competition will come from Australia's military partner, the US, which is already commissioning reconstruction work from American companies. The potential for tension was evident on Wednesday. Mr Howard was unequivocal about supporting a leading role for the US after the war. "There has to be an interim period of administration by the power that is there as a result of the toppling of the regime and that is inevitably that of the military forces that are there, and there will be undeniably an interim period of a US-led administration," Mr Howard said. "There's no practical alternative to that. It's really a matter of ordinary logic." But the same day, the Minister for Agriculture, Warren Truss, was sending a different type of message to Washington. "We have been concerned about the US's use of a mixture of aid and commercial services to break into new markets," he said. "We would expect the US to respect the market that we have in Iraq." Last edited by bhutocracy; 04-11-2003 at 10:13 PM..

04-11-2003, 11:32 PM	#12
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04-11-2003, 10:01 PM	#2
ronin Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Main St. Posts: 1,300	stupid.

04-11-2003, 10:04 PM	#4
pine Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Falls, eh Posts: 1,373	...it's all about the wheat!

04-11-2003, 10:22 PM	#8
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	As if it's up to anyone on GFY whether or not it pays off/backfires. christ.