Mike Spence Speaking to European Leaders

[Paul Markham]

I just watched it on the news. Anti-Trump guys, what's to complain about?

Pence: US will hold Russia accountable - CNNPolitics.com

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

They'll find something to complain about

They want WW3 with Russia ASAP

[celandina]

The only thing Trump had going for him was to make peace with Putin to whack the jihadis... Now Pence joined the rest of the warmongers and will start a war with Russia over fucking Baltics or the Ukopolorenians ....I was hoping that Trump will keep course on the Russia US anti ISIS coalition,but it is NOT to be,Pence fucked it for him and Trump is now just another "dunce" in the hands of Washington swamp... huuuuge problem

Supporting Ukraininan democracy,...

[pimpmaster9000]

War Inc. too big to fail

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Thank GOD Hillary is not president

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I just watched it on the news. Anti-Trump guys, what's to complain about?

You have no input at all, and request people complain

Trump is spending his third weekend vacationing at Maralardo and is too afraid to face foreign leaders for all the shit he's stirred up internationally, especially Russia, so he sent Pence to fill in where the president usually attends at the Munich Security Conference in Germany.

Russia's Lavrov said to leaders of Europe that "The West's dominance of world affairs is ending." and said Russia will be seen as equal to America or else!

Pence: US will hold Russia accountable - Russia says U.S. has lost power

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by celandina

Photo name "When in Ukraine parliament coming money from USA"

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russia's Lavrov said to leaders of Europe that "The West's dominance of world affairs is ending." and said Russia will be seen as equal to America or else!
Pence: US will hold Russia accountable - Russia says U.S. has lost power

Fake news

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by celandina

The only thing Trump had going for him was to make peace with Putin to whack the jihadis... Now Pence joined the rest of the warmongers and will start a war with Russia over fucking Baltics or the Ukopolorenians ....I was hoping that Trump will keep course on the Russia US anti ISIS coalition,but it is NOT to be,Pence fucked it for him and Trump is now just another "dunce" in the hands of Washington swamp... huuuuge problem

Supporting Ukraininan democracy,...

So Europe should do nothing about Russia expanding into other countries.

Europe had the same policy 80 years ago and look where that got us.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You have no input at all, and request people complain

Trump is spending his third weekend vacationing at Maralardo and is too afraid to face foreign leaders for all the shit he's stirred up internationally, especially Russia, so he sent Pence to fill in where the president usually attends at the Munich Security Conference in Germany.

Russia's Lavrov said to leaders of Europe that "The West's dominance of world affairs is ending." and said Russia will be seen as equal to America or else!

Pence: US will hold Russia accountable - Russia says U.S. has lost power

He was playing golf and addressing a large crowd in Florida. Busy man.

Pence was saying the US stands with Europe, wants to build up NATO, wants Europe to pay more towards the defence of Europe.

You're clutching at straws.

[klinton]

you have the same thing in 90s until the tzar with his cronies came in and took power, so.... what is the difference really ?
so yeah, I think that Ukraine has more democracy heh....although its not democracy, its pure oligarchy ;-)

Originally Posted by Sarn

Photo name "When in Ukraine parliament coming money from USA"

Fake news

[Barry-xlovecam]

It is spelled Pence.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So Europe should do nothing about Russia expanding into other countries.

Europe had the same policy 80 years ago and look where that got us.

You are sucking and blowing all at the same time. Expanding to what? Crimea is a Russian territory since Catherine the Great took it from the Ottomans ( even Brits and Turks could not dislodge them).... And all the other satelites around..? Simple, Russia needs to have the Caucuses secure from becoming jihadi freeway to Moscow ( no different then Trump wall) so Putin will NOT allow radical muslim goverments there, he is not a fool. The eastern Ukraine? Have a plebiscite ( just like Brexit, Scotish independence, Kosovo etc...)and you will see majority will vote to go with Putin. And as to the Baltics... Keep pissing the Russian bear off with NATO troops and rockets aimed at Moscow and the Bear will kick ass again....that is the history. I do not know where you got yours.

One thing you all are missing, Putin is a benevolent dictator, but he is not Marxist and thus is not promoting world revolution against capitalism. It is the idiots likes of McCain,Merkel and the rest of those who are promoting world dominance of democracy, a failed system in countries not ready for it and that is 70 % of the World.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Ukraine is the new highway for Islamic Terrorists?
Fake News is a Trumpism
Terrorist is the latest Putin Label.

No wonder Trump and Putin are BFF -- they both are in love with themselves as legends in their own minds.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Who the fuck cares about crimea or ukraine? I certainly don't

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Who the fuck cares about crimea or ukraine? I certainly don't

Exactly, most corrupt country in Europe.

They had a good deal with Russia, but suddenly the Eu saw a new revolution to get involved in. When i saw that fool Verhofstadt and Van Baalen at the Maiden square you could see it coming. Some elections on Russian and the other site that where heavly influenced by outsiders and corrupt oligarchs. Even the politician in Holland said Van Baalen had just 1 goal, to get himself in European parliament.



Holland had a referendum that said no deal with the Ukrain. But they ignored the outcome.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Ukraine is the new highway for Islamic Terrorists?.

Look at the map... i have said Caucuses not Ukraine

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You have no input at all, and request people complain

Trump is spending his third weekend vacationing at Maralardo and is too afraid to face foreign leaders for all the shit he's stirred up internationally, especially Russia, so he sent Pence to fill in where the president usually attends at the Munich Security Conference in Germany.

Russia's Lavrov said to leaders of Europe that "The West's dominance of world affairs is ending." and said Russia will be seen as equal to America or else!

Pence: US will hold Russia accountable - Russia says U.S. has lost power

I looked, seems as though it was Biden and Clinton and Kerry while Obama was in power. I didn't find anything where Obama went himself.... In 8 years how many times did Obama attend? I am curious

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

I looked, seems as though it was Biden and Clinton and Kerry while Obama was in power. I didn't find anything where Obama went himself.... In 8 years how many times did Obama attend? I am curious

It's total fake news, thats why

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He was playing golf and addressing a large crowd in Florida. Busy man.

Here in America Trump used to go on conservative TV and bitch like a little girl about how much Obama was golfing, he would tally up the days and give constant updates on Twitter like a nagging bitch, Trump set this standard, it's his doing.

Trump has golfed 8 of his 30 days in office so far, that's 26% of the days in office he's been golfing @ Mar-a-largo. Trump is a lazy lying pig.

Donald Trump's Secrets and Hypocrisy ... About Golf | The Huffington Post

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Here in America Trump used to go on conservative TV and bitch like a little girl about how much Obama was golfing, he would tally up the days and give constant updates on Twitter like a nagging bitch, Trump set this standard, it's his doing.

Trump has golfed 8 of his 30 days in office so far, that's 26% of the days in office he's been golfing @ Mar-a-largo. Trump is a lazy lying pig.

Donald Trump's Secrets and Hypocrisy ... About Golf | The Huffington Post

FAKE NEWS

He would only complain about Obama golfing AFTER a disaster or terror attack or tragedy

[Rochard]

Does Ukraine have oil?

[AndyA]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Thank GOD Hillary is not president

You remember how after 9/11 Republicans said "thank god Gore is not President"

lol
your on the wrong side of history Johnny Cakes...

I know your saying this for attention which is fine but it's stupid

9/11 never happens with Gore in office

and NONE of the bad things happening now happen with Hillary in office..

[Matt-ADX]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

I looked, seems as though it was Biden and Clinton and Kerry while Obama was in power. I didn't find anything where Obama went himself.... In 8 years how many times did Obama attend? I am curious

Bladewire? please stop selective answering. I would like you to show me how many times Obama was going to this after claiming that it's always the president. In fact in his first year in office (Like Trump) He sent Biden....

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Does Ukraine have oil?

Brace yourself...remember Excons Tillerson is our Secretary of state now...

EXXONMOBIL ESTIMATES POTENTIAL OF UKRAINIAN GAS RESERVES

Exxon?s $900 Billion Arctic Prize at Risk After Ukraine

Exxon CEO Rex Tillerson back at Russia shindig after hiatus over Ukraine | Reuters

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Does Ukraine have oil?

Not anymore, now in the hands of Russia. Europe was too late.

"When Russia seized Crimea in March, it acquired not just the Crimean landmass but also a maritime zone more than three times its size with the rights to underwater resources potentially worth trillions of dollars."

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Not anymore, now in the hands of Russia. Europe was too late.

"When Russia seized Crimea in March, it acquired not just the Crimean landmass but also a maritime zone more than three times its size with the rights to underwater resources potentially worth trillions of dollars."

Crimea oil and gas will not come easy for Russia

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Crimea oil and gas will not come easy for Russia

That's interesting and ExxonMobil is smack in the middle ...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

That's interesting and ExxonMobil is smack in the middle ...

Yeah Trump has to have a Yuuuge under the table deal with foreign bank accounts etc (remember Trump signed an EO legalizing oil companies hiding oil payments) Trump signs repeal of transparency rule for oil companies because this administration is all about Russia & all about oil & gas New Russian Pipeline In Baltic Sea Could 'Collapse' Ukraine

I'm fairly certain now that Trump is gaslighting American media with social issue drama to distract from the oil deals being done behind the scenes.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Yeah Trump has to have a Yuuuge under the table deal with foreign bank accounts etc (remember Trump signed an EO legalizing oil companies hiding oil payments) because this administration is all about Russia & all about oil & gas Forbes Welcome

I'm fairly certain now that Trump is gaslighting American media with social issue drama to distract from the oil deals being done behind the scenes.

Why do you think Trump is pro russia? What does he gain from it?

You are mentally ill man

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by celandina

You are sucking and blowing all at the same time. Expanding to what? Crimea is a Russian territory since Catherine the Great took it from the Ottomans ( even Brits and Turks could not dislodge them).... And all the other satelites around..? Simple, Russia needs to have the Caucuses secure from becoming jihadi freeway to Moscow ( no different then Trump wall) so Putin will NOT allow radical muslim goverments there, he is not a fool. The eastern Ukraine? Have a plebiscite ( just like Brexit, Scotish independence, Kosovo etc...)and you will see majority will vote to go with Putin. And as to the Baltics... Keep pissing the Russian bear off with NATO troops and rockets aimed at Moscow and the Bear will kick ass again....that is the history. I do not know where you got yours.

One thing you all are missing, Putin is a benevolent dictator, but he is not Marxist and thus is not promoting world revolution against capitalism. It is the idiots likes of McCain,Merkel and the rest of those who are promoting world dominance of democracy, a failed system in countries not ready for it and that is 70 % of the World.

So Russia can take any land it has occupied in the past on any false premise.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Here in America Trump used to go on conservative TV and bitch like a little girl about how much Obama was golfing, he would tally up the days and give constant updates on Twitter like a nagging bitch, Trump set this standard, it's his doing.

Trump has golfed 8 of his 30 days in office so far, that's 26% of the days in office he's been golfing @ Mar-a-largo. Trump is a lazy lying pig.

Donald Trump's Secrets and Hypocrisy ... About Golf | The Huffington Post

Can you give more accurate News Sources, please?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AndyA

You remember how after 9/11 Republicans said "thank god Gore is not President"

lol
your on the wrong side of history Johnny Cakes...

I know your saying this for attention which is fine but it's stupid

9/11 never happens with Gore in office

and NONE of the bad things happening now happen with Hillary in office..

Hillary is just a woman, not a god. Bad things happened while she was in office.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I just watched it on the news. Anti-Trump guys, what's to complain about?

Pence: US will hold Russia accountable - CNNPolitics.com

first of all his name is PENCE and not SPENCE and as I know about him now he is something like a "emergency break" in the white house and I'm not sure if pence is a prescription of the republican party to keep trump in check.

To compare him with trump is like comparing fire and water because pence is highly intelligent and knows the rules of diplomacy.

What I see at the moment is that more and more of the worst trump mafia is getting changed to someone more cultivated.

so for me it looks like the republicans change first everyone around him and if he will not play the game as they want they will change himself as the last one. McMaster was another good example for that progression.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Thank GOD Hillary is not president

[thommy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

It's total fake news, thats why

do you have any other words as FAKE NEWS to whatever you do not like to hear ?

you are such a fucking idiot that you do not even realize that trump is doing EXACTLY the opposite what he have promised.
he is using the white house as his own advertising show fills the last clean corners with corruption and have all this fuckers he promised to kick off in his nearest circle.

how is it possible that someone can be so blind and ignorant as you are ?

you are just posting nazi ideology and dumbness. in many europen countries you would be already in jail for what you praise.

you are a radical racist with no ethic, no mind and no clue what happens around you or in the world. If you would be smart enough for doing anything else as your morning piss without help, i would assume that you are involved in a concetration camp building company.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

...

I'm fairly certain now that Trump is gaslighting American media with social issue drama to distract from the oil deals being done behind the scenes.

This explains Putin's backstory on Crimea.

The press needs to just ignore the tweeter-in-chief and dig, and dig. Like a magician "the hand is quicker than the eye." Meantime, we are distracted by miserable losers ...

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

so for me it looks like the republicans change first everyone around him and if he will not play the game as they want they will change himself as the last one. McMaster was another good example for that progression.

Well, what did you expect, another hitler that can ignore the rest?
Trump and his group around him play good cop / bad cop.
Democracy works.

And it works, suddenly European countries starting to invest more in the military.
They have to invest 2% of their GDP, but most hardly made 1.2%
In Holland the army has to shout pang pang pang cause they don't have money for bullets... how embarrassing.
The only thing Trump had to do for that was saying he wouldn't support NATO.

Now Syria and Ukrain. And i don't care if Europe gets the gas they need from Russia or Crimea. Hopefully we don't need gas and oil that much anymore in 20 - 40 years. It was a game between Russia and Europe. All elections on either site where influenced. It shows how it works, look what parts of a country are more russian minded, create a new border and split it. They do that in many countries. And than it is OK in most cases... But when there is oil... 'we' 'care' ...

That is what you get when a country wants 51% be part of Europe and 49% wants to stay close to Russia.
Than you get new borders, cival wars, problems. And i see that situation coming with refugees and immigrants in Europe if it keeps going the same way. Most don't want them.

How many time we had an Hitler, and how many countries collapsed because of internal struggles..
That whole Nazi Trump is just to make people scared. If he gets crazy, there will be a new president in 4 years anyway.

[Barry-xlovecam]

The US always has the nuclear option in the defense of the eastern borders of Europe. That could save a lot of US taxpayer money

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The US always has the nuclear option in the defense of the eastern borders of Europe. That could save a lot of US taxpayer money

That wall also worked very well for years.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

That wall also worked very well for years.

for WHOM ???

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by thommy

for WHOM ???

For thommy boy

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by klinton

you have the same thing in 90s until the tzar with his cronies came in and took power, so.... what is the difference really ?
so yeah, I think that Ukraine has more democracy heh....although its not democracy, its pure oligarchy ;-)

Ukraine never change

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The US always has the nuclear option in the defense of the eastern borders of Europe. That could save a lot of US taxpayer money

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

And it works, suddenly European countries starting to invest more in the military.
They have to invest 2% of their GDP, but most hardly made 1.2%

see THIS is another fake news from trump.

the increase on 2% was already a fact in 2014 when the EU/NATO countries agreed to increase the spends for defense TIL 2024 - and that is still the same plan. trump have changed NOTHING ON THAT !!!!
again he just takes credit for others' achievements.

right populists love to do that. they look on the increasing DOW and it was trump´s honour. but the DOW was increasing already since november when everybody thought that trump can´t win.

but that is also another very interessting point because somebody knew it and invested a lot of money from the day on when there were rumors about russians helping trump.

if i would be putin and i would help trump to win i would invest too :-)

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

for WHOM ???

For both sides cause nobody get nuked.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

For thommy boy

i would really wish you would have at least ONE argument in all that discussion what somebody can take seriously.

but you are so fucking lost and stupid that i assume that will never happen.
your arguments sound to me like the arguments from a boy what got caught on stealing a chewing gum and try to find the most underground excuses he can find like: somebody else did it and it flew in my pocket.....
You will never realize HOW far away you are from a discussion participant who could be taken seriously - there is a universe between.
I'm always trying to remember when I met the last time in my life someone who is as stupid as you. but I just can not think of any one

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

see THIS is another fake news from trump.

the increase on 2% was already a fact in 2014 when the EU/NATO countries agreed to increase the spends for defense TIL 2024 - and that is still the same plan. trump have changed NOTHING ON THAT !!!!
again he just takes credit for others' achievements.

WRONG

In Holland you need several parties to run the country. Some parties want to invest 2 billion extra, some 1 billions and some left wing parties nothing or even less. Europe and Nato have nothing to say about that. The last 20 years they spent every year LESS.

That 2% was always the norm, but everyone ignored it. A lot of bla bla bla bla.

Now it is even a theme with the elections in Holland. New reserach in Holland showed that only 2,5% of the army trust their minster.... And that reserach and interest is all thanks to Trump. Obama showed some muscles two years ago by not sending troops, but saying Europe must do their part. Trump just give a big Fuck You to countries that don't invest. And not in 8 years, but now.

The only thing i am worried, a European army. Cause than that Verhofstadt van Baalen or other nozem would have started a war already. I trust Trump more with nukes than them. And what if we move to the right, than we have suddenly Le Pen, Berlusconi or other nutcase controling it.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

For both sides cause nobody get nuked.

you are a funny one ......

you should tell that the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki that a wall helps.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by thommy

you are a funny one ......

you should tell that the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki that a wall helps.

That's what happens when you mess with the good ole US of A...

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

you are a funny one ......

you should tell that the people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki that a wall helps.

Well, it was a cold war and people where afraid of nukes.
Did that wall help preventing a nuclear war in Europe or not?

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by thommy

i would really wish you would have at least ONE argument in all that discussion what somebody can take seriously.

but you are so fucking lost and stupid that i assume that will never happen.
your arguments sound to me like the arguments from a boy what got caught on stealing a chewing gum and try to find the most underground excuses he can find like: somebody else did it and it flew in my pocket.....
You will never realize HOW far away you are from a discussion participant who could be taken seriously - there is a universe between.
I'm always trying to remember when I met the last time in my life someone who is as stupid as you. but I just can not think of any one

huh?????