Great News! The American Jobs Report is out First Full Month Under New POTUS

[Bladewire]

But Trump says don't believe the job reports aka unemployment reports, they are fake

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

The unemployment rate is not 5%

Just like Hillary didnt have a 98.1% chance of winning

Wake up, cuck

[Relic]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

But Trump says don't believe the job reports aka unemployment reports, they are fake

**ATTNT: admin, op's fake nick 200%, ban away 2x**

[Bladewire]

Please stop trolling every thread with you fake nics JohnnyClips / relic / JoshuaG

Get a real life dude

People need to report his threads / posts or email [email protected]

It's clear JoshuaG / relic / JohnnyClips are the same negative obsessed user

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Please stop trolling every thread with you fake nics JohnnyClips / relic / JoshuaG

Get a real life dude

Please stop responding to my every post

Get a real life dude

[Relic]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Please stop responding to my every post

Get a real life dude

He actually replies to people he has on ignore. What a tool.

[Relic]

Go fuck yourself stalker op

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Relic

He actually replies to people he has on ignore. What a tool.

He's got serious issues tho

[Relic]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

He's got serious issues tho

Yeah don't we all

[Matt-ADX]

BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Trump's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Trump's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

I just posted a clip of the many times Trump said not to believe the jobs reports because they can be manipulated and they are fake.

Can you acknowledge that Trump said in those clips that the jobs report can't be trusted because it can be manipulated?

Trump said last month the real unemployment rate was 20%-42% yet his first jobs report says what? It's says 4.7% 1% lower than last month.

So Trump is manipulating the jobs report to make it seem better than Obama.

[Matt-ADX]

You think they might have an agenda?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

You think they might have an agenda?

I posted a YouTube smashup of Trump saying the no a report is fake & can't manipulated.

Why do you keep mentioning a left wing blog?

Because you're trying to deflect.

Focus on Trumps words from his own mouth, I know it must be hard for you to take because you won't answer me about acknowledging what he said in the clips.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Trump's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

you guys have to look a bit deeper at the numbers. the numbers that dropped where some lower middle educated and the very high educated (in this last mentioned group the drop is since years)

in the group with no high school diploma the number raised from 7,7 to 7,9 %
in the group with some college the number raised from 3,8 to 4%
in the group with a bachelors degree, the number dropped from 2,5 to 2,4%
in the group with high school diploma, the number dropped from 5,3 to 5,0

in this last group are usually a lot of people who work in the construction business.
as the winter in the north of US was warmer than last year the "construction season" season already started in february.

if you look additionally in the gender data you will see, that unemployment rate of man did not change at all. all the "new jobs" went to women (maybe because man are getting replaced with cheaper work from women because women earn in average 29% less than man do).

and if you want to read that now or not, the BIGGEST drops in unemployment rates are in hispanic and asians (because a lot of them got kicked out and can´t be unemployed anymore)
so a very funny maths.

so in fact the all in all paid wages did not change at all - i would even assume that the wages paid in total are lower than before.

HERE YOU CAN PLAY A BIT WITH THIS NUMBERS AND SEE THE REALITY

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I just posted a clip of the many times Trump said not to believe the jobs reports because they can be manipulated and they are fake.

Can you acknowledge that Trump said in those clips that the jobs report can't be trusted because it can be manipulated?

Trump said last month the real unemployment rate was 20%-42% yet his first jobs report says what? It's says 4.7% 1% lower than last month.

So Trump is manipulating the jobs report to make it seem better than Obama.

Dude...Trump doesn't "manipulate" the report. The report is put out by the Bureau Of Labor Statistics.

And as you have already been shown over and over...the BLS changed the way they count unemployment a few years ago to make it appear lower than it really is.

Having said that....the new Unemployment numbers are just as b.s. as the ones were under Obama.
They mean nothing.
The only thing that matters is GDP growth and the Labor Force Participation (and of course the quality of jobs...if unemployment were ZERO but everybody had a minimum wage job...that would obviously not be good).

Will Trump "like" the first unemployment rate number of his administration? Sure.
He's not gonna say it's "bad" now that he's President. Would you? Of course not.

But is he working to truly make the real numbers better? Yes. That's what his ideas on trade, taxes, and regulations are all about.

In the meantime, you can bask in glory if and when Trump touts the unemployment number because it would obviously be hypocritical of him to do so.

If he is truthful about it, he'll say that it sucks...but that he is working to change that.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Please stop trolling every thread with you fake nics JohnnyClips / relic / JoshuaG

Get a real life dude

People need to report his threads / posts or email [email protected]

It's clear JoshuaG / relic / JohnnyClips are the same negative obsessed user

What is clear is that you don't have a clue

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by baddog

What is clear is that you don't have a clue

Did you watch the clips of Trump saying the jobs report is fake?

Reality is a bitch sometimes I know

[baddog]

Originally Posted by thommy

you guys have to look a bit deeper at the numbers. the numbers that dropped where some lower middle educated and the very high educated (in this last mentioned group the drop is since years)

in the group with no high school diploma the number raised from 7,7 to 7,9 %
in the group with some college the number raised from 3,8 to 4%
in the group with a bachelors degree, the number dropped from 2,5 to 2,4%
in the group with high school diploma, the number dropped from 5,3 to 5,0

in this last group are usually a lot of people who work in the construction business.
as the winter in the north of US was warmer than last year the "construction season" season already started in february.

if you look additionally in the gender data you will see, that unemployment rate of man did not change at all. all the "new jobs" went to women (maybe because man are getting replaced with cheaper work from women because women earn in average 29% less than man do).

and if you want to read that now or not, the BIGGEST drops in unemployment rates are in hispanic and asians (because a lot of them got kicked out and can´t be unemployed anymore)
so a very funny maths.

so in fact the all in all paid wages did not change at all - i would even assume that the wages paid in total are lower than before.

HERE YOU CAN PLAY A BIT WITH THIS NUMBERS AND SEE THE REALITY

In other words, Trump can do no good.

Sorry dude, the numbers show Trump is doing good, even if you hate it.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Did you watch the clips of Trump saying the jobs report is fake?

Reality is a bitch sometimes I know

When Obama was in office YOUR ILK said it was accurate; now it isn't.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Having said that....the new Unemployment numbers are just as b.s. as the ones were under Obama.
They mean nothing.
...Will Trump "like" the first unemployment rate number of his administration? Sure.
He's not gonna say it's "bad" now that he's President. Would you? Of course not.

But is he working to truly make the real numbers better? Yes..

Trump said today, very clesrly, that today's report is real:

"I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'Spicer quotes Trump: Jobs reports 'may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now' | TheHill

So Trump lied before about the real unemployment rate being 20%-42%.

OR

He's lying now.

Just admit it Robbie.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by baddog

When Obama was in office YOUR ILK said it was accurate; now it isn't.

So you agree Trump is lying and the report is fake despite Trumps quote today:

"I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'Spicer quotes Trump: Jobs reports 'may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now' | TheHill

Why is Trump lying to us Baddog?

[Relic]

Originally Posted by baddog

What is clear is that you don't have a clue

[thommy]

Originally Posted by baddog

In other words, Trump can do no good.

Sorry dude, the numbers show Trump is doing good, even if you hate it.

well, you can read the numbers as a blind or as someone who understand them.
you might fit into the first group

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

BladeWire why are you reading Huff Post. Even CNN posts that he is on pace to deliver the jobs after month 1. Huff post predicted 99% Hillary would win. If after that you can't discount them as wrong what do you need

U.S. economy added 235,000 jobs in Drumpf's first full month - Mar. 10, 2017

We've had 76 months of straight growth. Trump hasn't been in office long enough to fuck this up. He hasn't done jack shit to the economy yet. In fact, other than ordering a failed military strike, he really... hasn't done anything. At all.

[Barry-xlovecam]

I think he may just be testing the waters to see who actually believes him -- found some suckers here -- LMAO.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Trump bringing jobs back alredy1

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Trump bringing jobs back alredy1

Trickle up is the only show in town IRL

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump said today, very clesrly, that today's report is real:

"I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'Spicer quotes Trump: Jobs reports 'may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now' | TheHill

So Trump lied before about the real unemployment rate being 20%-42%.

OR

He's lying now.

Just admit it Robbie.

Trump wasn't "lying" then. And if you just use your brain you already would understand what has been explained to you over and over and over...complete with links to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics.

And if you simply READ what I wrote instead of pretending like you didn't see it...you would see that I clearly said that IF Trump proclaims that the unemployment rate numbers are accurate...then he is being a hypocrite about it when he plainly knows (Just like EVERYBODY with a brain does) that those numbers are not accurate.

Apparently the only people in the world who just can't grasp the "adjusted" unemployment numbers NOT matching the Labor Force Participation numbers...are you, President Obama, and now...if Trump is being disingenuous (though I haven't heard him say it yet)...President Trump.

Other than the three of you...most people can easily see for themselves.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Trump wasn't "lying" then. And if you just use your brain you already would understand what has been explained to you over and over and over...complete with links to the Bureau Of Labor Statistics.

And if you simply READ what I wrote instead of pretending like you didn't see it...you would see that I clearly said that IF Trump proclaims that the unemployment rate numbers are accurate...then he is being a hypocrite about it when he plainly knows (Just like EVERYBODY with a brain does) that those numbers are not accurate.

Apparently the only people in the world who just can't grasp the "adjusted" unemployment numbers NOT matching the Labor Force Participation numbers...are you, President Obama, and now...if Trump is being disingenuous (though I haven't heard him say it yet)...President Trump.

Other than the three of you...most people can easily see for themselves.

There is no "IF Trump proclaims that the unemployment rate numbers are accurate...then he is being a hypocrite" I posted you his quote and the link it was televised today at the press conference.

I'm glad you agree he's lying, it's clearly undeniable.

hyp·o·crite
ˈhipəˌkrit/Submit
noun

a person who indulges in hypocrisy.

synonyms: liar, pretender, dissembler, deceiver, pietist, sanctimonious person, plaster saint.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Donald Trump now likes jobs reports

While candidate Trump questioned the validity of the monthly reports from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the new president welcomed Friday's better-than-expected report showing that the economy added 235,000 jobs last month.

"I talked to the president prior to this and he said to quote him very clearly," Trump spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters. "'They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.'"

In the alt world ANYTHING can happen!

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

They may have been phony in the past, but it's very real now.

what a fucking liar !!!!
if they are clear NOW they were clear before also.
he just wants to blame others with lies and can´t stand the truth on him.

and as i said - if you look INSIDE the numbers NOTHING have changed except man´s jobs went to women with 29% less wages.
and a natural decrease of season workers because of the good weather.

the truth will come up soon and i recommend you to get your money out of the stockmarket before june - it will crash HORRIBLE !!!

just wait what happens after wednesday when US government is not able to pay anything anymore OR agree for even more depth as 20 TRILLION dollars.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Making America Great Again already!

Damn that didn't take too long

Good job Mr Trump!

[thommy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Making America Great Again already!

Damn that didn't take too long

Good job Mr Trump!

dreamer - in 5 or 6 months you will see that amercia is the greatest loser on this planet with the biggest loser president ever.
you blind kid can´t even read the numbers he have presented and even when you could you would not understand them.

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by thommy

dreamer - in 5 or 6 months you will see that amercia is the greatest loser on this planet with the biggest loser president ever.
you blind kid can´t even read the numbers he have presented and even when you could you would not understand them.

Go back to bed, eurotrash tommy boy!

[Barry-xlovecam]

HAHAHA

If you want to argue that 10% of employed workers are 'underemployed' that isn't a viable argument because they are not worth employing at their old wages (*in most cases).

The new dollar value makes imports cheaper and decreases exports. It is also inflationary as the lower import costs will make a border tax less noticeable (for a while) until the dollar value drops and import costs increase. The net cost of imports are then with taxes destined to increase 20% or 30%

The US standard of living will decrease and we will have the overdue recession expected.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Donald Trump now likes jobs reports



In the alt world ANYTHING can happen!

here another interessting number:

inflation rate december january 0,4%
expected increase of hourly wages 0,3%
reached increase of hourly wages 0,23%

where are the mathematics geniuses which can show me a positive development from this numbers ?

[JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE]

200,000+ jobs and all you can do is cry

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I posted you his quote and the link it was televised today at the press conference.

No you didn't.

THIS is what you linked to:
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“I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly: 'They may have been phony in the past, but it’s very real now.'"
Spicer and reporters present laughed, though it wasn't immediately clear whether Trump was joking.
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"It wasn't immediately clear whether Trump was joking" when he said that to Spicer.
So "no", so far Trump has not stood in front of the press and said that the unemployment rate is "real".

BUT...he is talking about the actual job NUMBERS for the first period of his Presidency.

The number expected was 190,000 +
The number created was 235,000 +

So yeah, he can be happy about that.

I was just watching the Saturday morning business shows. And the main topic was ObamaCare.
Every single analyst is in agreement that the replacement bill AS IT STANDS NOW won't bring any healthcare costs down ($10 for an aspirin at the hospital kind of stuff). They all said that it is just shifting around who is paying the insurance companies.

The reason I bring that up is...they also discussed the economy. And every one of them also agreed that the higher than expected job growth is from a bump caused by the business community being happy that Trump was elected.
They stated that (and I 100% agree) business is now optimistic because of proposed tax, trade, and regulatory changes.

Anything that relieves govt. burden on business is a good thing.
Our govt. was never meant to harm our economy. But sometimes politicians pass laws that favor their cronies who have giant corporations and strangle small business who can't afford the regulatory cost, healthcare, and taxes.

Just watch Bladewire...all of your doom and gloom and negativity will be proven to have been a waste of your time.
Unleashing the American businessman from the govt. is like waking up a sleeping giant that is our economy.

I believe that 100% from MY life experiences and personal knowledge. I've been my own boss since I turned 17 in 1978. Never worked for anyone else. And I've seen a thing or two in this world running my own businesses.
It might not be a bad idea to at least consider what I'm saying to you.

As Trump told the African American voters..."What the hell do you have to lose?"
Nothing.
And when the economy grows you will have everything to GAIN.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

HAHAHA

If you want to argue that 10% of employed workers are 'underemployed' that isn't a viable argument because they are not worth employing at their old wages (*in most cases).

The new dollar value makes imports cheaper and decreases exports. It is also inflationary as the lower import costs will make a border tax less noticeable (for a while) until the dollar value drops and import costs increase. The net cost of imports are then with taxes destined to increase 20% or 30%

Initial applications for unemployment benefits
expected: 237.000
actual: 243.000

ISM-Index Industrie Feb
expected: 56,0
actual: 54,2

Producer prices
expected: +0,3
actual: +0,6

i can not see any glory somewhere.

[Barry-xlovecam]

I expect inflation will increase to 5% to 7% depending on the dollar values.
If the stock market tanks again it could be a lot worse.
I expect a new US war to try and stimulate the economy -- we don't have the money for Trump's infrastructure plans it would cost more than a trillion dollars -- money better spent (or worth going further in debt) than fighting the 'new enemy.'
Same shit new day. Same swamp new slime.

We will have a national debt of 25 Trillion or more in 10 years. Leopards don't change their spots.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I expect inflation will increase to 5% to 7% depending on the dollar values.

if he really want to bring jobs from china to US the inflation would be MUCH higher.
but that´s a point where i don´t worry because even trump is smart enough to know that
this can not happen.

the so called "new jobs" are just replacing good paid ones against bad paid ones (this is already visible in the last numbers).

it is quite easy to double up the number of jobs if you give everyone just 50% of what he makes now.

If the stock market tanks again it could be a lot worse.

this part is my biggest worry because this is not affecting the US only - it will affect the whole world.

and that it will explode is not only my meaning - all serious financial experts over the planet see that clear.

I expect a new US war to try and stimulate the economy -- we don't have the money for Trump's infrastructure plans it would cost more than a trillion dollars -- money better spent (or worth going further in debt) than fighting the 'new enemy.'
Same shit new day. Same swamp new slime.

not only possible VERY probably.
in the past centuries that was called piracy or land screw. today it is called "we safed the world from enemies"

We will have a national debt of 25 billion or more in 10 years. Leopards don't change their spots.

i think you meant TRILLION because actually the increase of US depths is 69 billion PER MONTH !!!!

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

I expect inflation will increase to 5% to 7% depending on the dollar values.
If the stock market tanks again it could be a lot worse.
I expect a new US war to try and stimulate the economy -- we don't have the money for Trump's infrastructure plans it would cost more than a trillion dollars -- money better spent (or worth going further in debt) than fighting the 'new enemy.'
Same shit new day. Same swamp new slime.

We will have a national debt of 25 billion or more in 10 years. Leopards don't change their spots.

The Fed said last year they're on schedule to do 3 rate hikes in 2017, the first in March. And after the jobs reporters week the dollar dropped

#ThanksDonald

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by baddog

Sorry dude, the numbers show Trump is doing good, even if you hate it.

LOL. Yes, Trump magically fixed the economy in less than thirty days. The 76 consecutive months of job growth clearly is the direct result of Trump.

This, right here, is the problem with our country. People like Baddog honestly believe that things were bad under Obama, but now they are magically great. These are the same exact numbers we saw under Obama, but under Obama these numbers was bad, incorrect, and misleading. Now they are "correct" and "true".

Trump hasn't done one thing with the economy. Not. One. Fucking. Thing.

[Barry-xlovecam]

yeah my bad Trillion.

I am buying put options on all national bond indexes.

Surviving 15%-20% long term interest rates is not pretty -- I saw this in the 1978 to 1981 era and the recessionary period that followed.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

LOL. Yes, Trump magically fixed the economy in less than thirty days. The 76 consecutive months of job growth clearly is the direct result of Trump.

This, right here, is the problem with our country. People like Baddog honestly believe that things were bad under Obama, but now they are magically great. These are the same exact numbers we saw under Obama, but under Obama these numbers was bad, incorrect, and misleading. Now they are "correct" and "true".

Trump hasn't done one thing with the economy. Not. One. Fucking. Thing.

This is was frustates me about the baddog type of redhat. They ignore the bad, make excuses, and anything good that happens starting January 20 they claim, anything bad belongs to last POTUS. Not only that they rub it in your face like you're jealous ( so odd ) no its not some weird jealousy, it's just staying true to the facts, which these type of redhats don't process, they only process political hyperbole from their party.

I'm thankful for the Republicans here who aren't redhats and we have honest back and forths where facts aren't politicized to the fact that they are denied if not beneficial to the argument, good people

[KillerK]

Originally Posted by Rochard

LOL. Yes, Trump magically fixed the economy in less than thirty days. The 76 consecutive months of job growth clearly is the direct result of Trump.

This, right here, is the problem with our country. People like Baddog honestly believe that things were bad under Obama, but now they are magically great. These are the same exact numbers we saw under Obama, but under Obama these numbers was bad, incorrect, and misleading. Now they are "correct" and "true".

Trump hasn't done one thing with the economy. Not. One. Fucking. Thing.

It's actually longer than that, once Trump won businesses knew the economy would be better.

Most of us get it, you want us to go to Socialism.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Trump hasn't done one thing with the economy. Not. One. Fucking. Thing.

It's all about perception and anticipation of taxes, trade, and regulation reform.

As a business owner I KNOW things are getting better... and also consumer optimism went through the roof after the election (along with the stock market).

But if that isn't enough to get you to see the light...think about this. If you are correct and Trump fails:
The. Economy. Will. Fail. And. You. Will. Lose. Your. Job.
(just thought I'd write in that "style" like you did)

Gotta say, that really sounds like what you are hoping for and cheering for.
Remember Rochard, negativity never got anyone anywhere in life. Trump winning instead of Hillary breathed new life into the economic opportunities in this country.

But I'll guarantee you that the people who are making moves won't have any interest in working with you if you are constantly negative and proclaiming that the country is going to fail.

I'm giving you some free advice. Put a sock on that negative shit and act like a grown up with ambition and drive.
Don't miss out on what is happening right now.

Trump didn't have to do "one thing" for the economy. Just knowing that he is going to remove the economic shackles that govt. has placed on business is the thing that drives money.

I know you don't believe it. But it's true.
Hell, the Fed can just HINT at a change and the market jumps or falls before they even do "one thing".

Ronald Reagan came into office and just talked about America rising up and becoming great once more with his "Morning In America" speech and business took off.

Think about it a second...IF you owned your own business and you watched so much of you money go in taxes, healthcare costs for OTHER people, excessive regulatory costs, etc. ; it drags you down emotionally. You get tight with your money, you worry constantly.

Now...an election happens with a candidate that wants to raise taxes even more, take more of your money to pay for OTHER people's expenses, continue with bad trade deals, etc.
That candidate offers no hope for you as a business owner.

And then...the candidate who wants to HELP your business grow... wins the election!
Of course you are going to be re-energized and ready to grow your business.

Just think about what I'm saying.
Go ahead, hate Trump all you want. Just don't fuck yourself at the same time.

The economy is about to roar. Take advantage of it.
You can always keep giving all the credit to Pres. Obama if that makes you happy.
Just be smart and stop making yourself look bad.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is was frustates me about the baddog type of redhat. They ignore the bad, make excuses, and anything good that happens starting January 20 they claim, anything bad belongs to last POTUS. Not only that they rub it in your face like you're jealous ( so odd ) no its not some weird jealousy, it's just staying true to the facts, which these type of redhats don't process, they only process political hyperbole from their party.

I'm thankful for the Republicans here who aren't redhats and we have honest back and forths where facts aren't politicized to the fact that they are denied if not beneficial to the argument, good people

I just don't get this at all.

Our economy took a crap during the last four years of the Bush administration. I live in Lincoln, California, and we were the fastest growing city in the country from 2000 - 2010. You could physically see the effect the economy had on my community. They couldn't build houses quick enough - New houses, schools, fire stations, shopping centers.... Our city was growing so quickly that they build a new town hall, and the police department moved into the old town hall. When everything stopped, EVERYTHING stopped. My entire community was brand new, five years old, and most of us had crappy loans. There was more vacant houses in my neighborhood than people. It was a ghost town. Our town started to close fire stations, and the police station couldn't afford to keep the new police station open so they moved back to the old one. They started to build a new restaurant a few blocks from my house - they got the frame up and then stopped. It stood there, just the frame, for four years until they finally took it down. They had entire condo complexes under construction where they had built the pads but then... Just stopped and the empty concrete slabs sat there for years.

It was staggering the impact this had on my hometown here.

Now we are building again.... I bike through one of the neighbor hoods where they are building and it's stunning - they are building four new houses a day. They have a huge concrete truck with a giant crane that fills in an entire ground floor and they are constantly going from lot to lot. We are even building a new school.

Trump didn't do this. He didn't snap his fingers and magically people started building again. He didn't give us the money to build. This started slowly two or three years ago. Trump hasn't done anything to fix the economy. Not one damn thing.

It's stunning that economy was bad six months ago, but now it's magically "great" even thought the numbers are the exact same.

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Our economy took a crap during the last four years of the Bush administration.

That is totally false.

The economy was doing great. The HOUSING MARKET collapsed in 2008 (September of 2008 to be precise...I know it all too well because that's when I fucked up and bought my house...the next week it was worth half of what I had just signed on for).

That created a HUGE loss of wealth instantly. Banks holding billions of dollars in mortgages now had negative equity across the board.

That is why the economy instantly nose-dived Rochard.

But you've already been told that over and over (because you apparently didn't "get it" when it happened)...so why on Earth do you keep making yourself look so bad by making statements like that?

Jesus...if you want to bitch about stuff, do it honestly.
Yes...our Federal Govt. made a horrible miscalculation (because they MEDDLED in the economy) in the late 1990's.
That led to a housing "bubble". Banks were free to loan money to folks wanting to own their own home.

Then, when the housing market crashed...all the people who had houses found themselves underwater instantly. The banks pulled back capital from the market place (making it almost impossible for business to meet payroll) and that led to unemployment almost overnight.

Dude...come the fuck on! This is simple stuff to understand. Why do you keep making posts that pretend you haven't already learned this information?

I don't know what world you were living in in 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007...but those were some of the biggest revenue years of my entire career. And you can ask anyone else in our business how much money they were making during that time and you'll get the same answers.

Shit dropped to the ground in Sept. of 2008.
Do you not have any memory at all? Damn...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Better luck with the next war debt crisis.