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Plat · 03-20-2003, 12:51 PM

Yes I said bestest!

You're experiences with conversions etc.

If I forgot one then please feel free to share.

G Sharp · 03-20-2003, 12:53 PM

I loveded this thread

Phoenix · 03-20-2003, 12:55 PM

all very good programs

Thrawn$ · 03-20-2003, 12:58 PM

CEmags of course

Kre8t0r · 03-20-2003, 01:01 PM

CEMags rokks!!!!

Juicy D. Links · 03-20-2003, 01:02 PM

yeahhhh

angeleyes · 03-20-2003, 01:02 PM

FreeTicketCash

Butrflied · 03-20-2003, 01:04 PM

where's free ezine bucks?

The Porn Dude · 03-20-2003, 01:07 PM

I heard that the account manager at FreeTicket/FreeEzine is a really cool guy and hung like a mule.

Plat · 03-20-2003, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Butrflied
where's free ezine bucks?

freeezinebucks is so sept 10th

NineNine · 03-20-2003, 01:21 PM

freeezine isn't being too nice to me today...

Bad ratios today! nasty, horrible ratios today!

The Porn Dude · 03-20-2003, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
freeezine isn't being too nice to me today... Bad ratios today! nasty, horrible ratios today!

Give me a hollar on ICQ #159035884 maybe I can help.

lazycash · 03-20-2003, 01:29 PM

I convert a little higher with Weg than I do with Cemags, but my $/click usually comes out higher with Cemags over the rest unless I do a high volume with weg and get their incentive payouts. FEB and FTC convert around the same for me and thats been steadily declining. At only a $1/email and no upsell payouts, FEB and FTC usually bring up the rear of all the programs I promote in terms of $/click. I've run numerous tests on all the programs using the same traffic sources over the last year and Cemags and Weg are usually right at the top ($/unique) followed by the rest in no particular order( FEB, FTC, Mr-Cash, Free4you and a few others)

Anyone here promote naughtycash? Their payouts are high, but all I've ever heard is bad things about them. I've been reluctant to try them since I last heard their stats had a 5 day lag. I'm anxious for FreePassBucks to begin as their designs are the best I've seen yet (should convert nicely) and they're going to have a rewards system.

TondaB · 03-20-2003, 01:33 PM

Of course...WEGCash is the best!

$33 - $35 per free trial

Your crazy if you don't try it!

You will convert like mad

Evil Chris · 03-20-2003, 01:34 PM

All good programs, but you forgot http://www.4freebucks.com/

I do best with them, and WEGCASH.

Theo · 03-20-2003, 01:37 PM

FTC and FEB

RobBuxxx · 03-20-2003, 01:40 PM

there really is no comparison

howard · 03-20-2003, 01:42 PM

WWW.ADULTPLEX.COM

DrewKole · 03-20-2003, 01:49 PM

I do best with my own crap.

thanks

lazycash · 03-20-2003, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris
All good programs, but you forgot http://www.4freebucks.com/

I do best with them, and WEGCASH.

I tried 4 free and after Insite bounced a couple checks on me I decided that was enough. Plus they were constantly delaying sending checks out and seems everyone has to email and bug them to get paid.

lazycash · 03-20-2003, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrewKole
I do best with my own crap.

thanks

I'm lookin at starting my own also, can you recommend a decent join4free script? These are the ones I've found so far:
http://h4q.com/j4f.html
http://www.adultdevil.com/scripts/j4f.shtml
http://www.xascripts.com/index.php?link=5

nofx · 03-20-2003, 02:31 PM

AdultNex · 03-20-2003, 02:45 PM

CE and WEG ... Both. Although, CE does convert slightly higher.

Meloman · 03-20-2003, 02:53 PM

FreeEzineBucks & FreeTicketCash all the way!

Brujah · 03-20-2003, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
FreeEzineBucks & FreeTicketCash all the way!

Ditto.

Fuck the gimmicks. Fuck the ratio claims. Fuck the hype. Don't get caught up everyone else's "special math" formulas. It's all about the paycheck at the end of the day. FreeEzineBucks programs are still the ones to beat.

Cash · 03-20-2003, 03:04 PM

For me, CEMags by far!

angeleyes · 03-20-2003, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

Ditto.

Fuck the gimmicks. Fuck the ratio claims. Fuck the hype. Don't get caught up everyone else's "special math" formulas. It's all about the paycheck at the end of the day. FreeEzineBucks programs are still the ones to beat.

Glad to see so many of you happy with our FEB and FTC programs! Feel free to ICQ me any time if you need assistance. My email is [email protected]

...just a quick intro to our members as I'm fairly new here at Hawgs.

fantasyman · 03-20-2003, 03:28 PM

Wow - looking at this thread is very enlightening!!

First of all, you should use the program that isn't blocked by major ISP's like AOL, Yahoo, Earthlink, MSN, Hotmail etc.

To find out who these are just sign up for each one under those ISP's free email - that way you can see for yourselves who is getting their emails thru....

Also, if a program isn't getting their emails thru stands to reason they wouldn't count those hits because it would mess up their conversions.

Then you need to take into consideration the incremental incomes involved in an email program.

CEMags pays $15 for upsells which convert globally at 1:1230 uniques - this is almost as a good as a paysite plus we pay $1.50 per email also.

Then, we also pay 50% of all dialer revenue, don't think any other email program has this feature.

Lastly, we also have Adult Links built into CEMags. This does two things, it sets you up an account with Foillow Me Free and you get $55 sign ups for anyone who downloads Adult Links off our Mag pages when you send us traffic and if you set up Adult Links off your stats page you will get traffic back to the URL of your choice. We set favorites and bookmarks for your URL.

If you send traffic to CEMags for 2 weeks, you will see how your income will exceed that of any other email program, hands down!!

http://www.cecash.com/cemags.html

Brujah have you sent CEMags traffic for two weeks since January 15th, if you did you would see we'll pay you more....

lazycash · 03-20-2003, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fantasyman
Wow - looking at this thread is very enlightening!!

First of all, you should use the program that isn't blocked by major ISP's like AOL, Yahoo, Earthlink, MSN, Hotmail etc.

To find out who these are just sign up for each one under those ISP's free email - that way you can see for yourselves who is getting their emails thru....

Also, if a program isn't getting their emails thru stands to reason they wouldn't count those hits because it would mess up their conversions.

Yep, this is my main beef with FEB and FTC and pretty sure why my conversions with them have continued to go down sharply. I've done a few test emails with them and in some cases the confirm emails just simply don't show up.

Easton · 03-20-2003, 03:55 PM

CEmags covers all my total monthly BW so it's good in my books!

fantasyman · 03-20-2003, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash

Yep, this is my main beef with FEB and FTC and pretty sure why my conversions with them have continued to go down sharply. I've done a few test emails with them and in some cases the confirm emails just simply don't show up.

lazycash were you aware that CEMags has a webmaster referral program that pays you 5% of their volume? You can find the link in the CEMags stats area under 'Updates & FAQ's'

In fact, the linking code for our Webmaster referral program tracks webmaster sign ups for CEMags, RiskyMail4Free, Teen-Mail4free, Follow Me Free, Pay It Forward, Follow Me Free Partners, et al and you get paid 5% if your webmaster makes money under any of our programs.

We're now working on a few more wrinkles to generate webmaster more $$$$!!

angeleyes · 03-20-2003, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash

Yep, this is my main beef with FEB and FTC and pretty sure why my conversions with them have continued to go down sharply. I've done a few test emails with them and in some cases the confirm emails just simply don't show up.

Please contact me today or tomorrow lazycash. I am in constant contact with our webmasters that have accounts with all of the above mentioned and we are having no problems what so ever. That is what I'm here for... to help in any way I can to get you high conversions! I look forward to hearing from you.

--Jennifer

Lee · 03-20-2003, 04:14 PM

I have loved doing biz with freeezine/freeticketcash as I have always been a pretty consistent 1:10/1:11 & the people you correspond with are immensely polite & professional. However lately my ratio is just starting to drop off a bit & at the end of the day its about the $$, and 1:15 is a significant difference to me. Today is 1:26 which isnt a viable option for me.

I am considering pushing my hits to freepassbucks as its new.

Dj Furious · 03-20-2003, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash

Yep, this is my main beef with FEB and FTC and pretty sure why my conversions with them have continued to go down sharply. I've done a few test emails with them and in some cases the confirm emails just simply don't show up.

I had the same problem...!

lazycash · 03-20-2003, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brujah

Ditto.

Fuck the gimmicks. Fuck the ratio claims. Fuck the hype. Don't get caught up everyone else's "special math" formulas. It's all about the paycheck at the end of the day. FreeEzineBucks programs are still the ones to beat.

If you don't look at your ratios and don't analyze your $/unique and don't try other programs, then you will continue to get the same paycheck you've always gotten and won't know if it can be improved.

On a side note, FreePassBucks just launched a couple hours ago, yeah finally.

Melody · 03-21-2003, 01:44 AM

CECash is strong and steady for us.

fantasyman · 03-21-2003, 09:13 AM

When an email program's ratios change dramatically it probably means major ISP's like AOL, MSN, Hotmail, Yahoo, et al are blocking their emails.

It's very difficult to build relations with major ISP's to convince them that you are a double opt in email service.

Zgirl · 03-23-2003, 01:26 PM

Adultplex, Friendfinder and WegCash are the best!!!

I've been promoting Adultplex for about 2.5 years, they pay big bucks and on time. Adultplex (former EZ Green) has 3 -dollar -days every 2 weeks and $25-pay sites without pop ups or $37.50 pay sites with pop ups). There are no deductions!!

FEB and FTC were very good to me until couple weeks ago - my ratios were always about 1:20. Recentlly my ratios changed to 1:55 ...

Jeniffer check your email .. I've sent you an email yesterday but didn't get any reply. I'm missing last 2 checks from 02/16-02/28/03. My ID: Zgirl

natas · 03-23-2003, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lazycash
I tried 4 free and after Insite bounced a couple checks on me I decided that was enough. Plus they were constantly delaying sending checks out and seems everyone has to email and bug them to get paid.

Tell me ALL about that one dood

"oh sorry we lost your check..we'll send you another etc etc."

fuckers

the Shemp · 03-23-2003, 02:43 PM

Very happy with CE

NineNine · 03-23-2003, 03:12 PM

CD Mags sounds good, but I've been burned by CE in the past... anybody else have anything good to say about 'em?

Zgirl · 03-23-2003, 04:35 PM

I've been burned by CE too ....

I've been promoting CE about 2.5 years ago when I first started in the adult business. They canceled my account after being with them for about 2 months ... first, the reason was I didn't send enough hits (I've made only $150/2 weeks).Then I got a nasty email from CE support team MikeB and he told me another reason: I was hacking in their system so "that's why we closed your account". The email sounded like from a 5 year old who was doing his porn business from his bedroom.
I was very new in this business and was confused about the ways how they get rid of their webmasters who they didn't like. I didn't understand why they didn't like me. I didn't know too much about computers or hacking !!! and I just built my first website to promote CE. What a surprise. I got threats from them, I didn't get paid (they still owe me money) and they put me on ignore when I wanted to get an explanation why they really closed my account. I didn't do anything against the TOS and at the end they said "shut up or we would report you by FBI for hacking"
That was my first and last and worst experience in this business. I have good sponsors now and no problems with them. For 2.5 years ...
FantasyMan is a very "special" person: when people say something he doesn't like he just closes their account and says some lies. I was reading all posts on CE message board and I know very good that HE has a big problem. I don't feel bad anymore. I hope one day CE won't have any webmasters left and FantasyMan will be forced to promote CE by himself.

NineNine · 03-23-2003, 11:31 PM

Hmm... well, since FEB is slowing down, and CE doesn't sound all that reliable (and isn't from my experience), are there any other email collector options?

psyko514 · 03-23-2003, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
Hmm... well, since FEB is slowing down, and CE doesn't sound all that reliable (and isn't from my experience), are there any other email collector options?

It's all about WEG. Especially the last two days. I've converted at 1:4 with them.

420 · 03-23-2003, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zgirl
I've been burned by CE too ....

I've been promoting CE about 2.5 years ago when I first started in the adult business. They canceled my account after being with them for about 2 months ... first, the reason was I didn't send enough hits (I've made only $150/2 weeks).Then I got a nasty email from CE support team MikeB and he told me another reason: I was hacking in their system so "that's why we closed your account". The email sounded like from a 5 year old who was doing his porn business from his bedroom.
I was very new in this business and was confused about the ways how they get rid of their webmasters who they didn't like. I didn't understand why they didn't like me. I didn't know too much about computers or hacking !!! and I just built my first website to promote CE. What a surprise. I got threats from them, I didn't get paid (they still owe me money) and they put me on ignore when I wanted to get an explanation why they really closed my account. I didn't do anything against the TOS and at the end they said "shut up or we would report you by FBI for hacking"
That was my first and last and worst experience in this business. I have good sponsors now and no problems with them. For 2.5 years ...
FantasyMan is a very "special" person: when people say something he doesn't like he just closes their account and says some lies. I was reading all posts on CE message board and I know very good that HE has a big problem. I don't feel bad anymore. I hope one day CE won't have any webmasters left and FantasyMan will be forced to promote CE by himself.

I've also had a similar problem with these clowns. MikeB eats FM's special cock

NineNine · 03-24-2003, 12:07 AM

There are enough good programs that I don't have to play with questionable ones. I'm leaning towards trying out WEG. I gotta see how this new phonesex campaign works, first...

psyko514 · 03-24-2003, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NineNine
There are enough good programs that I don't have to play with questionable ones. I'm leaning towards trying out WEG. I gotta see how this new phonesex campaign works, first...

On top of great conversion ratios, they have great customer support, and different options to make money. You also have the choice between deductions/no deductions

Snake Doctor · 03-24-2003, 12:11 AM

Asking which of these programs is the best is like asking whether a per sign up, or partnership, or per click, or per active program is the best.
The answer is it depends on your traffic.

CE and WEG have higher payouts per email, plus they pay $15 per upsell and have nice little bonus features.
BUT
They also take deductions if your subscriber "opts out" within a certain number of days.

FEB pays out a lower per email amount, but they don't take any deductions.

Plus, you also need to read the fine print in all of their TOS's. Do they credit you for signups from free email accounts like yahoo, hotmail etc?
Do they allow signups from your foreign traffic or do they just redirect your foreign clicks to a dialer that you don't get paid for?

Its just like picking any other type of sponsor, send traffic to a bunch of them, and then stick with the one that nets you the highest check at the end of the month

psyko514 · 03-24-2003, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
They also take deductions if your subscriber "opts out" within a certain number of days.
Plus, you also need to read the fine print in all of their TOS's. Do they credit you for signups from free email accounts like yahoo, hotmail etc?
Do they allow signups from your foreign traffic or do they just redirect your foreign clicks to a dialer that you don't get paid for?

WEG has a no deductions option which pays 1.10 for all confirmed emails. With deductions, you can get up to 1.50 per email.

They do credit for free email accounts, provided the email doesn't get spam-filtered out.

They do redirect foreign traffic, but they give you a cut off the first dialer popup or something like that, but I don't send them foreing traffic, so I don't have all the details.

Lenny2 is right though, stick with whoever makes the most money for you.

flashfire · 03-24-2003, 02:46 AM

my freeezinebucks is waaaay down like everyone else, hopefully they can figure out whats wrong with it. Freeticket on the otherhand is converting 1:4 for me right now!! If some emails arnt going out well fuck I should be at 1:2 or 1:1? And CE is also great and you shouldnt have any problems dealing with them they have the best support in the industy as far as i'm concerned. The best possible way is to test mailers on your own traffic.

03-20-2003, 12:55 PM	#3
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03-20-2003, 12:58 PM	#4
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03-20-2003, 01:02 PM	#7
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03-20-2003, 01:04 PM	#8
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03-20-2003, 01:07 PM	#9
The Porn Dude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: There are two kinds of people in the world, those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig! Posts: 369	I heard that the account manager at FreeTicket/FreeEzine is a really cool guy and hung like a mule. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

View Poll Results: WHO IS THE BESTEST OF THEM ALL?
FreeTicketCash	30	21.58%
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CEmags	61	43.88%
WegCash	33	23.74%
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03-20-2003, 12:51 PM	#1
Plat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 2,680	FreePassBucks - CEmags - FreeTicketCash - WegCash // WHO IS THE BESTEST OF THEM ALL? Yes I said bestest! You're experiences with conversions etc. If I forgot one then please feel free to share. __________________ Im fuckin retired

03-20-2003, 12:53 PM	#2
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	I loveded this thread

03-20-2003, 01:01 PM	#5
Kre8t0r Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: From Hurricane Hell to Frozen Hell Posts: 1,304	CEMags rokks!!!!

03-20-2003, 01:02 PM	#6
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	yeahhhh

03-20-2003, 01:21 PM	#11
NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	freeezine isn't being too nice to me today... Bad ratios today! nasty, horrible ratios today!

03-20-2003, 01:29 PM	#13
lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	I convert a little higher with Weg than I do with Cemags, but my $/click usually comes out higher with Cemags over the rest unless I do a high volume with weg and get their incentive payouts. FEB and FTC convert around the same for me and thats been steadily declining. At only a $1/email and no upsell payouts, FEB and FTC usually bring up the rear of all the programs I promote in terms of $/click. I've run numerous tests on all the programs using the same traffic sources over the last year and Cemags and Weg are usually right at the top ($/unique) followed by the rest in no particular order( FEB, FTC, Mr-Cash, Free4you and a few others) Anyone here promote naughtycash? Their payouts are high, but all I've ever heard is bad things about them. I've been reluctant to try them since I last heard their stats had a 5 day lag. I'm anxious for FreePassBucks to begin as their designs are the best I've seen yet (should convert nicely) and they're going to have a rewards system. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

03-20-2003, 01:33 PM	#14
TondaB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,162	Of course...WEGCash is the best! $33 - $35 per free trial Your crazy if you don't try it! You will convert like mad __________________ ICQ: 61462417

03-20-2003, 01:34 PM	#15
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,233	All good programs, but you forgot http://www.4freebucks.com/ I do best with them, and WEGCASH. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

03-20-2003, 01:37 PM	#16
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	FTC and FEB

03-20-2003, 01:40 PM	#17
RobBuxxx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Huntingotn Beach, CA Posts: 82	there really is no comparison __________________ RobBuxxx - ICQ: 146996844 Marketing \| Development

03-20-2003, 01:42 PM	#18
howard Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: phila Posts: 1,827	WWW.ADULTPLEX.COM __________________ perkissmedia.com [email protected] 318621803 perkymon993 Skype

03-20-2003, 01:49 PM	#19
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	I do best with my own crap. thanks

03-20-2003, 02:31 PM	#22
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	weg __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

03-20-2003, 02:45 PM	#23
AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	CE and WEG ... Both. Although, CE does convert slightly higher.

03-20-2003, 02:53 PM	#24
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	FreeEzineBucks & FreeTicketCash all the way!

03-20-2003, 03:04 PM	#26
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	For me, CEMags by far! __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426!

03-20-2003, 03:28 PM	#28
fantasyman Let's do some business together Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 973	Wow - looking at this thread is very enlightening!! First of all, you should use the program that isn't blocked by major ISP's like AOL, Yahoo, Earthlink, MSN, Hotmail etc. To find out who these are just sign up for each one under those ISP's free email - that way you can see for yourselves who is getting their emails thru.... Also, if a program isn't getting their emails thru stands to reason they wouldn't count those hits because it would mess up their conversions. Then you need to take into consideration the incremental incomes involved in an email program. CEMags pays $15 for upsells which convert globally at 1:1230 uniques - this is almost as a good as a paysite plus we pay $1.50 per email also. Then, we also pay 50% of all dialer revenue, don't think any other email program has this feature. Lastly, we also have Adult Links built into CEMags. This does two things, it sets you up an account with Foillow Me Free and you get $55 sign ups for anyone who downloads Adult Links off our Mag pages when you send us traffic and if you set up Adult Links off your stats page you will get traffic back to the URL of your choice. We set favorites and bookmarks for your URL. If you send traffic to CEMags for 2 weeks, you will see how your income will exceed that of any other email program, hands down!! http://www.cecash.com/cemags.html Brujah have you sent CEMags traffic for two weeks since January 15th, if you did you would see we'll pay you more.... Last edited by fantasyman; 03-20-2003 at 03:32 PM..

03-20-2003, 03:55 PM	#30
Easton Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,825	CEmags covers all my total monthly BW so it's good in my books! __________________ New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project. Looking for high-quality affordable exclusive content? Check me out at Easton Content for all the details.

03-20-2003, 04:14 PM	#33
Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kernow Posts: 2,977	I have loved doing biz with freeezine/freeticketcash as I have always been a pretty consistent 1:10/1:11 & the people you correspond with are immensely polite & professional. However lately my ratio is just starting to drop off a bit & at the end of the day its about the $$, and 1:15 is a significant difference to me. Today is 1:26 which isnt a viable option for me. I am considering pushing my hits to freepassbucks as its new.

03-21-2003, 01:44 AM	#36
Melody Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Democratic Blue States of America Posts: 130	CECash is strong and steady for us.

03-21-2003, 09:13 AM	#37
fantasyman Let's do some business together Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 973	When an email program's ratios change dramatically it probably means major ISP's like AOL, MSN, Hotmail, Yahoo, et al are blocking their emails. It's very difficult to build relations with major ISP's to convince them that you are a double opt in email service.

03-23-2003, 01:26 PM	#38
Zgirl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 24	Adultplex, Friendfinder and WegCash are the best!!! I've been promoting Adultplex for about 2.5 years, they pay big bucks and on time. Adultplex (former EZ Green) has 3 -dollar -days every 2 weeks and $25-pay sites without pop ups or $37.50 pay sites with pop ups). There are no deductions!! FEB and FTC were very good to me until couple weeks ago - my ratios were always about 1:20. Recentlly my ratios changed to 1:55 ... Jeniffer check your email .. I've sent you an email yesterday but didn't get any reply. I'm missing last 2 checks from 02/16-02/28/03. My ID: Zgirl

03-23-2003, 02:43 PM	#40
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	Very happy with CE __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

03-23-2003, 03:12 PM	#41
NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	CD Mags sounds good, but I've been burned by CE in the past... anybody else have anything good to say about 'em?

03-23-2003, 04:35 PM	#42
Zgirl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 24	I've been burned by CE too .... I've been promoting CE about 2.5 years ago when I first started in the adult business. They canceled my account after being with them for about 2 months ... first, the reason was I didn't send enough hits (I've made only $150/2 weeks).Then I got a nasty email from CE support team MikeB and he told me another reason: I was hacking in their system so "that's why we closed your account". The email sounded like from a 5 year old who was doing his porn business from his bedroom. I was very new in this business and was confused about the ways how they get rid of their webmasters who they didn't like. I didn't understand why they didn't like me. I didn't know too much about computers or hacking !!! and I just built my first website to promote CE. What a surprise. I got threats from them, I didn't get paid (they still owe me money) and they put me on ignore when I wanted to get an explanation why they really closed my account. I didn't do anything against the TOS and at the end they said "shut up or we would report you by FBI for hacking" That was my first and last and worst experience in this business. I have good sponsors now and no problems with them. For 2.5 years ... FantasyMan is a very "special" person: when people say something he doesn't like he just closes their account and says some lies. I was reading all posts on CE message board and I know very good that HE has a big problem. I don't feel bad anymore. I hope one day CE won't have any webmasters left and FantasyMan will be forced to promote CE by himself.

03-23-2003, 11:31 PM	#43
NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	Hmm... well, since FEB is slowing down, and CE doesn't sound all that reliable (and isn't from my experience), are there any other email collector options?

03-24-2003, 12:07 AM	#46
NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	There are enough good programs that I don't have to play with questionable ones. I'm leaning towards trying out WEG. I gotta see how this new phonesex campaign works, first...

03-24-2003, 12:11 AM	#48
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Asking which of these programs is the best is like asking whether a per sign up, or partnership, or per click, or per active program is the best. The answer is it depends on your traffic. CE and WEG have higher payouts per email, plus they pay $15 per upsell and have nice little bonus features. BUT They also take deductions if your subscriber "opts out" within a certain number of days. FEB pays out a lower per email amount, but they don't take any deductions. Plus, you also need to read the fine print in all of their TOS's. Do they credit you for signups from free email accounts like yahoo, hotmail etc? Do they allow signups from your foreign traffic or do they just redirect your foreign clicks to a dialer that you don't get paid for? Its just like picking any other type of sponsor, send traffic to a bunch of them, and then stick with the one that nets you the highest check at the end of the month __________________ sig too big

03-24-2003, 02:46 AM	#50
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	my freeezinebucks is waaaay down like everyone else, hopefully they can figure out whats wrong with it. Freeticket on the otherhand is converting 1:4 for me right now!! If some emails arnt going out well fuck I should be at 1:2 or 1:1? And CE is also great and you shouldnt have any problems dealing with them they have the best support in the industy as far as i'm concerned. The best possible way is to test mailers on your own traffic.