Will Russiagate Backfire on the Left?

[Grapesoda]

The big losers of the Russian hacking scandal may yet be those who invested all their capital in a script that turned out to based on a fairy tale.

In Monday?s Intelligence Committee hearings, James Comey did confirm that his FBI has found nothing to support President Trump?s tweet that President Obama ordered him wiretapped. Not unexpected, but undeniably an embarrassment for the tweeter-in-chief.
Yet longer-term damage may have been done to the left. For Monday?s hearing showed that its rendering of the campaign of 2016 may be a product of fiction and a fevered imagination.

After eight months investigating the hacking and leaking of the emails of Clinton campaign chief John Podesta and the DNC, there is apparently no evidence yet of Trump collusion with Russia.

Former Director of National Intelligence Gen. James Clapper has said that, as of his departure day, Jan. 20, he had seen no evidence of a Russia-Trump collusion.
?But while the FBI is still searching for a Trump connection, real crimes have been unearthed?committed by anti-Trump bureaucrats colluding with mainstream media?to damage Trump?s presidency.?

Former acting CIA Director Michael Morell also made that clear this month: ?On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire, at all. ... There?s no little campfire, there?s no little candle, there?s no spark. And there?s a lot of people looking for it.? Morell was a surrogate for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

But while the FBI is still searching for a Trump connection, real crimes have been unearthed?committed by anti-Trump bureaucrats colluding with mainstream media?to damage Trump?s presidency.

There is hard evidence of collusion between the intel community and The New York Times and The Washington Post, both beneficiaries of illegal leaks?felonies punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

While the howls have been endless that Trump accused Obama of a ?felony,? the one provable felony here was the leak of a transcript of an intercepted conversation between Gen. Michael Flynn and the Russian ambassador.

That leak ended Flynn?s career as national security adviser. And Director Comey would neither confirm nor deny that President Obama was aware of the existence of the Flynn transcript.

So where do we stand after yesterday?s hearing and eight-month FBI investigation? The Russians did hack Podesta?s email account and the DNC, and while the FBI has found no evidence of Trump campaign collusion with the Russians, it is still looking.
However, the known unknowns seem more significant.

How could DNI Director Clapper and CIA Director Morell say that no connection had been established between Trump?s campaign and the Russians, without there having been an investigation? And how could such an investigation be conclusive in exonerating Trump?s associates?without some use of electronic surveillance?

Did the FBI fly to Moscow and question Putin?s cyberwarfare team?
More questions arise. If, in its investigation of the Russian hacking and a Trump connection, the FBI did receive the fruits of some electronic surveillance of the Trump campaign, were Attorney General Loretta Lynch, White House aides or President Obama made aware of any such surveillance? Did any give a go-ahead to surveil the Trump associates? Comey would neither confirm nor deny that they did.

So, if Obama were aware of an investigation into the Trump campaign, using intel sources and methods, Trump would not be entirely wrong in his claims, and Obama would have some ?splainin? to do. Is the FBI investigating the intelligence sources who committed felonies by illegally disclosing information about the Trump campaign?
Comey would not commit to investigate these leaks, though this could involve criminal misconduct within his own FBI.

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Will Russiagate Backfire on the Left? - Taki's Magazine

Again, the only known crimes committed by Americans during and after the campaign are the leaks of security secrets by agents of the intel community, colluding with the Fourth Estate, which uses the First Amendment to provide cover for criminal sources, whom they hail as ?whistleblowers.?

Indeed, if there was no surveillance of Trump of any kind, where did all these stories come from, which their reporters attributed to ?intelligence sources??
Attorney General Jeff Sessions has recused himself from any role in the Russian hacking scandal. But the Justice Department should demand that the FBI put the highest priority on investigating the deep state and its journalistic collaborators in the sabotage of the Trump presidency If Comey refuses to do it, appoint a special counsel.

In the last analysis, as Glenn Greenwald, no Trumpite, writes for The Intercept, the real loser may well be the Democratic Party.
If the investigation of Russiagate turns up no link between Trump and the pilfered emails, Democrats will have egg all over their faces. And the Democratic base will have to face a painful truth.
Vladimir Putin did not steal this election. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama lost it. Donald Trump won it fair and square. He is not an ?illegitimate? president. There will be no impeachment. They were deceived and misled by their own leaders and media. They bought into a Big Lie.

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[crockett]

Where do you find this biased crap? The FBI is investigating it, the Senate and the House both controlled by Republicans are investigating it.

The House investigation is a joke but that's another story. Russians interfered with our election that is a fact.

We've already seen eve dense of Trump dealing with Russians. Flynn was forced to resign over it Mansford knew about the Podesta email hack 2 days before Podesta even knew he was hacked.

You are a fool if you keep ignoring this stuff as if it didn't happen because it's bad for your team..

[Rochard]

Yes, let's quote an article from a website no one ever heard of that is about as trust worthy as my neighbor's pet chicken.

Look at some of the other titles on this site:
God Bless the Right-Wing Social Justice Warriors
White Privilege vs. White Death
Somebody Else’s Babies

Seriously?

[onwebcam]

Yes.....

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by crockett

Where do you find this biased crap? The FBI is investigating it, the Senate and the House both controlled by Republicans are investigating it.

The House investigation is a joke but that's another story. Russians interfered with our election that is a fact.

We've already seen eve dense of Trump dealing with Russians. Flynn was forced to resign over it Mansford knew about the Podesta email hack 2 days before Podesta even knew he was hacked.

You are a fool if you keep ignoring this stuff as if it didn't happen because it's bad for your team..

I almost spit coffee all over my keyboard... 'this biased crap' lol!! my team is the USA, and definitely the constant attack over nothing is bad for my team. (shhhhhssss, don't tell anybody but ultimately your team is the USA as well, to bad you seem unable to figure it out)

and we both know you didn't even read the opinion lol!!!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yes, let's quote an article from a website no one ever heard of that is about as trust worthy as my neighbor's pet chicken.

Look at some of the other titles on this site:
God Bless the Right-Wing Social Justice Warriors
White Privilege vs. White Death
Somebody Else’s Babies

Seriously?

I'm sorry I hadn't realized you didn't understand an opinion section of a blog... my apologies, and as usual, fuck the facts attack, the sources... liberal dems in ACTION!!!!!

maybe the marines will take you back because doing your own thinking isn't working out that well for you lol!!! hey why not write YOUR stance and send it in?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I almost spit coffee all over my keyboard... 'this biased crap' lol!! my team is the USA, and definitely the constant attack over nothing is bad for my team. (shhhhhssss, don't tell anybody but ultimately your team is the USA as well, to bad you seem unable to figure it out)

Bullshit.. all you ever do is ignore everything the right does wrong and vilify the left. Yet oh ma team is USA.. Yea right.. You are about as center of the road and pro USA as Robbie is.. You are pro narrow minded bigots who want to keep power no matter what it takes..

Basically your "pro USA" = as long as it's all Republicans..

[bronco67]

The bottom line...

If the roles were reversed and Hilary was in Trump's place, Grapesoda would be screaming for her beheading. He's an idiot.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by bronco67

The bottom line...

If the roles were reversed and Hilary was in Trump's place, Grapesoda would be screaming for her beheading. He's an idiot.

I never said anything about Obama other than I thought he looked cool and I hoped he could solve some issues.. . not sure how that translates to anything about hating Hilary... I think you should stop getting information from your head and start looking to reality

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by crockett

Bullshit.. all you ever do is ignore everything the right does wrong and vilify the left. Yet oh ma team is USA.. Yea right.. You are about as center of the road and pro USA as Robbie is.. You are pro narrow minded bigots who want to keep power no matter what it takes..

Basically your "pro USA" = as long as it's all Republicans..

well since you have decided to call me a bigot lets look that word up!

big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

now what were you saying lol!!!

[PornCEO]

I'm shaking my MOFO head. Dude, just stop, you're an idiot!

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Yes, let's quote an article from a website no one ever heard of that is about as trust worthy as my neighbor's pet chicken.

Look at some of the other titles on this site:
God Bless the Right-Wing Social Justice Warriors
White Privilege vs. White Death
Somebody Else?s Babies

Seriously?

did you bother to read anything? white privilege is a piece about the rising death rate among middle age white men due to drugs and suicide... and you actually wonder why we have no respect for your intellect...

[beerptrol]

Any backfire from the Russian thing will be small compared to the Trump backfire on the republicans and his voters

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

I'm sorry I hadn't realized you didn't understand an opinion section of a blog... my apologies, and as usual, fuck the facts attack, the sources... liberal dems in ACTION!!!!!

So you expect me to believe an opinion piece written a blog I've never heard of?

This is how Trump got elected. People believe anything anyone writes.

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

maybe the marines will take you back because doing your own thinking isn't working out that well for you lol!!! hey why not write YOUR stance and send it in?

So person reading silly blogs is the smart one? Sure sure.

[bronco67]

You say "Russiagate" like it's some phantom story concocted by the left. If you believe that, then you're fooling yourself. Can you be that stupid? Maybe you can, because you have the spelling and grammar skills of a painfully average elementary school kid. How did you make it this far to be an old person, without falling into a ravine somewhere along the way?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Rochard

So you expect me to believe an opinion piece written a blog I've never heard of?

This is how Trump got elected. People believe anything anyone writes.



So person reading silly blogs is the smart one? Sure sure.

bigotry = contempt prior to investigation. that being your stance how can I possibly believe any opinion you hold? see the issue? and this: People believe anything anyone writes. yes I can see that being an issue in your life

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by bronco67

You say "Russiagate" like it's some phantom story concocted by the left. If you believe that, then you're fooling yourself. Can you be that stupid? Maybe you can, because you have the spelling and grammar skills of a painfully average elementary school kid. How did you make it this far to be an old person, without falling into a ravine somewhere along the way?

I feel bad for ya dude. your counterpoint to discussion is name calling and low quality accusations... and yet you demand that we all respect your intellect.


and you also demand we all think and do as you say... nope definitely not a bigot lol!!!!