Russia knew Syrian chemical attack was coming

[brassmonkey]

WASHINGTON (AP) - The United States has concluded Russia knew in advance of Syria's chemical weapons attack last week, a senior U.S. official said Monday. The official said a drone operated by Russians was flying over a hospital as victims of the attack were rushing to get treatment. Hours after the drone left, a Russian-made fighter jet bombed the hospital in what American officials believe was an attempt to cover up the usage of chemical weapons.

[ picture had dead bodies! wtf?? not posting]

The senior official said the U.S. has no proof of Russian involvement in the actual chemical attack in northern Syria. But the official said the presence of the surveillance drone over the hospital couldn't have been a coincidence, and that Russia must have known the chemical weapons attack was coming and that victims were seeking treatment.

The official, who wasn't authorized to speak publicly on intelligence matters and demanded anonymity, didn't give precise timing for when the drone was in the area, where more than 80 people were killed. The official also didn't provide details for the military and intelligence information that form the basis of what the Pentagon now believes.

Another U.S. official cautioned that no final American determination has been made that Russia knew ahead of time that chemical weapons would be used. That official wasn't authorized to speak about internal administration deliberations and spoke on condition of anonymity.

The allegation of Russian foreknowledge is grave, even by the standards of the currently dismal U.S.-Russian relations. Although Russia has steadfastly supported Syrian President Bashar Assad's government, and they've coordinated military attacks together, Washington has never previously accused Moscow of complicity in any attack that involved the gassing of innocent civilians, including children. The former Cold War foes even worked together in 2013 to remove and destroy more than 1,300 tons of Syrian chemical weapons and agents.

Until Monday, U.S. officials had said they weren't sure whether Russia or Syria operated the drone. The official said the U.S. is now convinced Russia controlled the drone. The official said it still isn't clear who was flying the jet that bombed the hospital, because the Syrians also fly Russian-made aircraft.

U.S. officials previously have said Russians routinely work with Syrians at the Shayrat air base where the attack is supposed to have originated. U.S. officials say the chemical weapons were stored there and that those elements add to the conclusion that Russia was complicit in the attack.

Last Thursday 59 Tomahawk missiles were fired on the government-controlled base in the United States' first direct military action against Assad's forces. The U.S. has been focusing its military action in Syria on defeating the Islamic State group.

On Monday, Col. John J. Thomas, a U.S. military spokesman, said the U.S. has taken extra defensive precautions in Syria in case of possible retaliation against American forces for the cruise missile attack.

Thomas told reporters at the Pentagon that the increased emphasis on defensive measures to protect U.S. troops on the ground in Syria led to a slight and temporary decline in offensive U.S. airstrikes against IS in Syria.

There has been no Syrian retaliation so far for the cruise missile attack, which destroyed or rendered inoperable more than 20 Syria air force planes, he said. Thomas said the U.S. intends to return to full offensive air operations against IS as soon as possible.

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[Bladewire]

Fake Putin nics here will say it's lies & USA propaganda 100% guaranteed, or they will ignore this proof.

Watch....

[Bladewire]

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Fake Putin nics here will say it's lies & USA propaganda 100% guaranteed, or they will ignore this proof.

Watch....

What proof ??? Show it .... Why no investigation ? We know that rebels used/manufactured chemical weapons .... The US said so in Mosul ... And we know that fighters from Mosul were " allowed " to flee to Syria .....

As for the propaganda , the article starts with :

The United States has concluded ....

amazing how you still believe that BS after the farce of WMD in Iraq !

WASHINGTON — The Islamic State has used chemical weapons, including chlorine and sulfur mustard agents, at least 52 times on the battlefield in Syria and Iraq since it swept to power in 2014, according to a new independent analysis.

More than one-third of those chemical attacks have come in and around Mosul, the Islamic State stronghold in northern Iraq, according to the assessment by the IHS Conflict Monitor, a London-based intelligence collection and analysis service.

The IHS conclusions, which are based on local news reports, social media and Islamic State propaganda, mark the broadest compilation of chemical attacks in the conflict. American and Iraqi military officials have expressed growing alarm over the prospect of additional chemical attacks as the allies press to regain both Mosul and Raqqa, the Islamic State capital in Syria.


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/w...osul.html?_r=0

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

[crockett]

This is actual video of the hospital air strike.. A reporter was there covering the story of the victims and filming when the hospital was bombed.

Syria gas attack hospital hit by airstrike, video shows - NBC News

Perhaps directfiesta can tell us this was from a Hollywood movie...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

I posted this video a few days ago in another thread, you hear the planes fly by and see the gas bloom after it hits the ground

List of chemical attacks on children in Syria

March 19, 2013:
More than two dozen people, including several Syrian soldiers, die in a sarin gas attack in northern Syria. The government and rebels each blame the other for the incident.

Aug. 21, 2013:
Hundreds of men, women and children are gassed with the banned nerve agent sarin in an attack near Damascus. The U.S. blames the Syrian government.


April 2015
Syrian groups in Idlib province say barrel bombs containing chlorine were dropped.

August and September 2016
Hospital officials and activists in Aleppo say chlorine gas is used in attacks.

Feb. 28., 2017:
Russia and China veto a U.N. Security Council resolution authorizing sanctions against Syria for chemical weapons use.

April 4, 2017:
An attack on a rebel-held city in northern Syria kills at least 86 people, 27 of them children. Autopsies on three Syrians who died after being brought to Turkey for treatment suggest sarin was used in the attack.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by crockett

This is actual video of the hospital air strike.. A reporter was there covering the story of the victims and filming when the hospital was bombed.

Syria gas attack hospital hit by airstrike, video shows - NBC News

Perhaps directfiesta can tell us this was from a Hollywood movie...

I am busy checking Mosul ... you know the place that the USA cleaned up a few months ago ....

No denial that the " hospital " was hit or near hit by Syrian or Russian forces .... but unlike what you imply, that was a conventional weapon attack ( bomb / missile ) .

The hospital was treating patients of the chemical event .....

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

No denial that the " hospital " was hit or near hit by Syrian or Russian forces .... but unlike what you imply, that was a conventional weapon attack ( bomb / missile ) .

The hospital was treating patients of the chemical event .....

Russians or Syrians bombing a hospital treating sarin gas victims, you don't find it obvious they want the gas victims to die?

Let me guess, you think just a strange coincidence that Russia or Syria bombing a hospital right after a sarin gas attack that they both say they know nothing about, has nothing to do with?

If you think this then you don't think at all and are a stupid fuck. No offense. Its a shame you support a dictator suppressing & killing his own people to stay in power.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russians or Syrians bombing a hospital treating sarin gas victims, you don't find it obvious they want the gas victims to die?

Let me guess, you think just a strange coincidence that Russia or Syria bombing a hospital right after a sarin gas attack that they both say they know nothing about, has nothing to do with?

If you think this then you don't think at all and are a stupid fuck. No offense.

Fine ... you are so smart ...

But there was no denial that bombing was taking place ( you should look up what that city is in the Rebel/Isis tree ) .

It is quite plausible that a bomb hit a chemical weapon manufacture , so the Syrian/Russians could not know of this situation .
They continued mbombing ( like the USA does ) hitting that make-shift hospital ( please , give me the name and photo of that hospital ) ....

When it is the USA, that explanation is pausible ( re: Mosul 100 civilians killed ) .

One thging for sure, all over the news the talk is war on Syria, on North Korea , on China sea : only one common denominator : USA ....

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Russians or Syrians bombing a hospital treating sarin gas victims, you don't find it obvious they want the gas victims to die?

Let me guess, you think just a strange coincidence that Russia or Syria bombing a hospital right after a sarin gas attack that they both say they know nothing about, has nothing to do with?

If you think this then you don't think at all and are a stupid fuck. No offense. Its a shame you support a dictator suppressing & killing his own people to stay in power.

A lot of Allah Fuckbar ....

[directfiesta]

Airstrikes Take Out IS Headquarters in Mosul Hospital

Airstrikes Take Out IS Headquarters in Mosul Hospital

USA doing, all OK :

An Iraqi soldier patrols by a hospital in Mosul, Iraq, Jan. 10, 2017. Airstrikes on Saturday took out offices which Islamic State militants operated on the grounds of another hospital in the city.
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United States-backed airstrikes launched Friday took out an Islamic State group headquarters located in a hospital in western Mosul, U.S. military officials said Saturday.

In a statement released Saturday, the U.S. task force in Iraq and Syria said IS militants had been using a building located within the Al Jumhuri medical complex in Mosul for the sole purpose of overseeing its operations in Iraq.

?ISIS continues to ignore the Law of Armed Conflict and uses protected sites such as hospitals, schools, and mosques to try and shield themselves from Coalition airstrikes,? the statement read using another acronym for Islamic State.

and BTW, it is OK ... but get off your high horses about Syria ... same ennemy , same shit.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

A lot of Allah Fuckbar ....

Not funny at all.

This is all over TV here, maybe not in your country?

You can fuck off now

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Not funny at all.

This is all over TV here, maybe not in your country?

You can fuck off now

you are an IGNORANT ....

[Horatio Caine]

Da wordz on da streetz, yo!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

you my friend are under the USA military protection!

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Horatio Caine

Da wordz on da streetz, yo!

Nowadays Brassmonkey flies above taking a dump on the ants nest and watches our reaction

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

you are an IGNORANT ....

Coming from you that's a compliment ha! Suck it

[pimpmaster9000]

I trust US sources of info 100%...assad is probably using WMD he got from saddam

the USA would never false flag ever...good ole USA...it was obviously not the USA look:

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

I trust US sources of info 100%...assad is probably using WMD he got from saddam

the USA would never false flag ever...good ole USA...it was obviously not the USA look:

Meet me midnight at the entrance of the government building

[OneHungLo]

It's fun watching not only these libs meltdown but they are now starting to cannibalize each other

[Barry-xlovecam]

Bottom line -- Russia stood down.
They acquiesced to Assad getting hit for undisclosed reasons.

[Horatio Caine]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Nowadays Brassmonkey flies above taking a dump on the ants nest and watches our reaction

Crackhead, what happened to your ignore list?

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

Russia knew Syrian chemical attack was coming

Listen here, copypaster. I live in Russia, so I am Russia and I can assure you that I didn't know anything about any preparations of that chemical attack. Maybe Putin or his puppet generals knew it, but not me and not Russia, because Putin is not Russia.

[ZiggiZiggiCrew]

Swedish propaganda?
"The Swedish NGO Doctors for Human Rights (SWEDHR) has accused the Syria Civil Defense, better known as the White Helmets, of falsifying information about its alleged work in Syria. According to the Swedish human rights activists, so-called "rescue" procedures captured in White Helmets videos had been staged; they were carried out on a dead child."

More info here
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2...white-helmets/

[klinton]

god damn Americans you finally learn from good old KGB school !
Finally someone has brains in US intelligence and discovered how to copy & pasty Russia Today style.
fake news, true news - doesnt matter - the rumor is what matters !

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

The official, who wasn't authorized to speak publicly on intelligence matters and demanded anonymity, didn't give precise timing for when the drone was in the area, where more than 80 people were killed. The official also didn't provide details for the military and intelligence information that form the basis of what the Pentagon now believes.

Another U.S. official cautioned that no final American determination has been made that Russia knew ahead of time that chemical weapons would be used. That official wasn't authorized to speak about internal administration deliberations and spoke on condition of anonymity.

[Farang]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

you are an IGNORANT ....

Ignorant is an adjective. Grammar, bitch.

[nico-t]

sad to see this total 180. I hoped trump would be strong and rich enough not to be another establishment slave like Bush, Clinton and Obama.

[nico-t]

[klinton]

Originally Posted by nico-t

[klinton]

and I only wait for a list of crimes and lies done by Putin and his gang of criminals... yet, no such list from our european friends

Putin= good, West= bad.

Lenin would be really happy how many of new brave useful idiots we have in this century.....

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by klinton

and I only wait for a list of crimes and lies done by Putin and his gang of criminals... yet, no such list from our european friends

Putin= good, West= bad.

Lenin would be really happy how many of new brave useful idiots we have in this century.....

Putin did not destroy whole countries like the US did.
He is trying to stop unpunished US(EU) crime in the world.
PS:And Lenin was shot

[klinton]

and seriously... yeah, you are kind of right, but not in 100 %.
Sending KGB agents to eastern ukraine to weaken this "country", invading/regaining/ Crimea, indiscriminatory bombings in Syria ("russia's defense ministry reports killing 125 terrorists and 0 civilians..buahahah), war crimes in Chechenya in early 2000s, killing own Russian citizens in 1999...well...
I agree - as for almost 20 years as a chief of nuclear super power it could be much worse

(no sarcasm here)

I agree that there are worse countries Putin is mostly interested in maintaining status quo to steal,rob more and get more power for him and his chronies, I agree with that. And how he does that...well....
and so what that Lenin was shot ? do you know who were the "useful idiots" during soviet times ?
btw. your hero is lying, manipulating old guy with possible inferority complex and with (for sure) blood on his hands. yet, he is kind of charming,smart and funny, must admit that. sexy bandit !

Originally Posted by Sarn

Putin did not destroy whole countries like the US did.
He is trying to stop unpunished US(EU) crime in the world.
PS:And Lenin was shot

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by klinton

Putin he like hitler(start crying)

[klinton]

I overestimated you. I spent 5 minutes to write post that was serious and informative, yet you post here your bullshit. You didnt even try to write something longer that would make sense.
Good luck in believing in your fairytales..or...get the f.. out of here if you are agent of disinformation

Originally Posted by Sarn

[pimpmaster9000]

this whole sarin thing just reeks of false flag...in 5 years we will find out it was fake and it will be like for saddams invisible WMD "OOOOOPS we mother fucking lied oh well 100.000s dead no biggie " and everything will go on normally like nothing ever happened...

[klinton]

sadly, there could be other explanation - Assad is crazy, tired and frustrated of already 6 years old conflict.

Also, I really cant hear screaming them "IT'S NOT US, HERE IS THE PROOF".....

Originally Posted by crucifissio

this whole sarin thing just reeks of false flag...in 5 years we will find out it was fake and it will be like for saddams invisible WMD "OOOOOPS we mother fucking lied oh well 100.000s dead no biggie " and everything will go on normally like nothing ever happened...

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by klinton

I overestimated you. I spent 5 minutes to write post that was serious and informative, yet you post here your bullshit. You didnt even try to write something longer that would make sense.
Good luck in believing in your fairytales..or...get the f.. out of here if you are agent of disinformation

You write sarcasm, i am trolling you)) you triggered

[klinton]

Originally Posted by Sarn

You write sarcasm, i am trolling you)) you triggered

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by klinton

sadly, there could be other explanation - Assad is crazy, tired and frustrated of already 6 years old conflict.

Also, I really cant hear screaming them "IT'S NOT US, HERE IS THE PROOF".....

assad using chemical weapons on just dozens of people is the equivalent of a bank robber going in to a bank and shouting "give me just 100$"....it just does not make any sense...

but for false flag it is perfect "look assad used gas on children lets invade"...and we have lots and lots and lots of examples where the USA spread utter lies before invading like saddams non existent WMD and they have strong reason to do so again: the american public will forgive them no matter what so there is NO responsibility even if they make shit up...also WAR inc. needs to be fed...

and the syrian government has denied using chemical weapons again and again...it is not true that they are not screaming it was not them...it is just very hard to prove who did it...