Strange... No mention here about the 100 billion Brexit bill presented to UK by Europe

[Struggle4Bucks]

Is this news being kept away from the Brits? I thought this would be discussed here

100 billion lol... Nice investment... Maybe Brexit will be profitable in 20 years...

[DraX]

EU wants to steal 100 billions from the citizens of United Kingdom for getting out of the corrupt organization....what else is there to know ?

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by DraX

EU wants to steal 100 billions from the citizens of United Kingdom for getting out of the corrupt organization....what else is there to know ?

The eighties were great... weren't they?

[rogueteens]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Is this news being kept away from the Brits? I thought this would be discussed here

100 billion lol... Nice investment... Maybe Brexit will be profitable in 20 years...

Nope, not kept away at all. our government's stance is that that bill is a pie in the sky figure and will not be paid.

[Barry-xlovecam]

What's a few billion between friends?

[Tasty1]

Looks like the EU acts like a mad woman that want a war instead of a clean divorce.
All to prevent other countries to leave.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Looks like the EU acts like a mad woman that want a war instead of a clean divorce.
All to prevent other countries to leave.

That's exactly what it looks like, if true.

It's bad enough someone in power thought of that, even worse, it was actually implemented.

[Barry-xlovecam]

The UK can leave anytime it wants -- with nothing.

The EU can't send its army ...

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The UK can leave anytime it wants -- with nothing.

Exactly... with nothing... closed markets; visa for traveling, etc...

[pimpmaster9000]

the EU will be gone one day...immigrants will be deported...but who will be left to blame? the right wing will be shit out of people to blame

none of the real problems are being addressed...

[Fat Panda]

rofl eu is a commie joke

theyll never see a fucking cent from uk

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Exactly... with nothing... closed markets; visa for traveling, etc...

Yes, and than they will kick out all the EU expats from the UK.
And vice versa.

If there is a crowdfunding project for the UK, i will donate.
Without the UK we wherent't able to celebrate liberty day today in Holland.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Looks like the EU acts like a mad woman that want a war instead of a clean divorce.
All to prevent other countries to leave.

exactly.

The EU keeps proving themselves to everyone how horrible they are.

[Manfap]

All those other countries who pay into the EU and want it to change.

40% of the French vote anti EU, 60% anti euro.

If the EU is going to try and use fear of a massive economical cost of leaving to keep running as before.

That's just going to raise anti Euro feelings no?

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Manfap

All those other countries who pay into the EU and want it to change.

40% of the French vote anti EU, 60% anti euro.

If the EU is going to try and use fear of a massive economical cost of leaving to keep running as before.

That's just going to raise anti Euro feelings no?

The EU is Europe's tumor.

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Without the UK we wherent't able to celebrate liberty day today in Holland.

You mean because they signed the Lend Lease Act?

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

You mean because they signed the Lend Lease Act?

That was signed after the Battle of Britain.

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

That was signed after the Battle of Britain.

Are you saying the Battle of Britain freed Europe?

[thommy]

Originally Posted by nico-t

exactly.

The EU keeps proving themselves to everyone how horrible they are.

what is horrible if you are married and you wife signes a contract with you and after you get divorced she does not care what she have signed?

the EU is not a limitd company - it is based on longterm contracts what have been signed by britain.

i also do not belive that 100 billion is a fact - i think junker´s speculation of 60 billion are nearer to the reality. so let them deal it out - nobody will go iinto negotiation with empty hands and compromises in the back. at the end the truth will be like always in the middle.

you guys all together have NO FUCKING CLUE of economy - you proved that so often and the only way you will realize how you fail is to see the reality.
watch britain in the next years and see them suffer and than say thanks to whoever that it did not happen to you.

the one and only UNDERSTANDABLE reason why britain and france have a problem with the EU is that the still have their fucking colonies all over the planet. they have to pay unemployed indians who live in the forests and never had a job in their life (and did not need one) because this natives there are part of the EU and have the same rights as every other citizen of the EU. they not suffer because of the EU they suffer from their own past.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Exactly... with nothing... closed markets; visa for traveling, etc...

it will never happen

[Manfap]

Originally Posted by thommy

the one and only UNDERSTANDABLE reason why britain and france have a problem with the EU is that the still have their fucking colonies all over the planet. they have to pay unemployed indians who live in the forests and never had a job in their life (and did not need one) because this natives there are part of the EU and have the same rights as every other citizen of the EU. they not suffer because of the EU they suffer from their own past.

The 14 British Overseas Territories (BOT) are territories under the jurisdiction and sovereignty of the United Kingdom.[1][2] They are the parts of the British Empire that have not been granted independence or have voted to remain British territories. These territories do not form part of the United Kingdom and, with the exception of Gibraltar, are not part of the European Union

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...as_Territories

ps on side note, I would have voted remain.. but I wasn't allowed to vote as I've lived in Spain for 20 years.

[Sly]

Fear is a terrible motivator when the "victim" has nothing to lose.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Are you saying the Battle of Britain freed Europe?

I said i will support the UK if there will be a crowdfunding to pay the eu.

Would Europe be freed if the UK had lost the battle of Britain?

With this next Battle of Britain we should support the UK.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

they not suffer because of the EU they suffer from their own past.

Europe suffers from the German past.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Europe suffers from the German past.

why I should i answer onm such a bullshit statement?

if you had just 1 miligramm brain in your head you would know it is the opposite.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

why I should i answer onm such a bullshit statement?

if you had just 1 miligramm brain in your head you would know it is the opposite.

I give you a starter; the babyboom

next ...

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Would Europe be freed if the UK had lost the battle of Britain?

I don't see a reason why not...

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

With this next Battle of Britain we should support the UK.

Where's your love for the Island coming from?
I see an Island full of prudish turds... The only place in Free Western Europe where it's illegal to shoot and exploit these among other forms of porn:

Spanking
Caning
whipping
Water Sports
squirting
Facesitting
Fisting

They should all rot under sharia law if that's what they want...

[Struggle4Bucks]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Europe suffers from the German past.

Not to be an asshole here, but Hitler was better at uniting Europe then current EU leaders are...

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

Nope, not kept away at all. our government's stance is that that bill is a pie in the sky figure and will not be paid.

dass waciss! Or whatever. Go EU. Stop national interests!

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

I don't see a reason why not...



Where's your love for the Island coming from?
I see an Island full of prudish turds... The only place in Free Western Europe where it's illegal to shoot and exploit these among other forms of porn:

Spanking
Caning
whipping
Water Sports
squirting
Facesitting
Fisting

They should all rot under sharia law if that's what they want...

Yet most of the content you mentioned is firstly (or at leats secondly and thirdly out of all 20+ Eu countries) associated with UK At least talking before the ban of couple years ago.

[MaDalton]

Maybe Nigel Farage could explain how he planned to address the long-term financial commitments of the UK ...

Oh, wait, he fucked off and is retiring on EU money while you guys have to deal with the consequences of the shit he instigated.

lol...

I just feel sorry for everyone that voted remain, thankfully some of my UK friends here are eligible for an Irish passport.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Be careful what you ask for you might just get it. The last "EU" was called the Roman Empire -- how did that work out in the end? The Dark Ages.
After Pax Europaea?

[Paul Markham]

What will the EU do if the UK refuses to pay?

Stop selling goods to the UK?

This is just grandstanding by the EU to scare other countries from demanding the right to vote on whether their country is ruled from Brussels.

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by StefanG

Maybe Nigel Farage could explain how he planned to address the long-term financial commitments of the UK ...

Oh, wait, he fucked off and is retiring on EU money while you guys have to deal with the consequences of the shit he instigated.

lol...

I just feel sorry for everyone that voted remain, thankfully some of my UK friends here are eligible for an Irish passport.

Wow every single thing you just said shows how clueless you are.

And by the way, everyone that voted remain + every sane European who supports independence over dictatorship feels sorry for brainwashed people like you

[ianmoone332000]

Yeah thank god remainers are the minority. With all the gains the Tories made in the local elections yesterday, heres hoping its a sign the left wing loonies are shrinking.

[wehateporn]

The Brexit people warned the EU was evil, now more people will be realizing they were right

[NatalieK]

Originally Posted by Struggle4Bucks

Is this news being kept away from the Brits? I thought this would be discussed here

100 billion lol... Nice investment... Maybe Brexit will be profitable in 20 years...

Britain borrowed the money & the EU doesn´t want to end up with money owed...

The money would be returned once the loans are payed back. Besides, it´s 60 to 100 billion ?

The amusing part of that is the huge difference. Even 6 to 10 quid is a massive difference! Most people would say 6 or 7, or 9 or 10... maybe 60 or 70 billion... 90 to 100 billion... but 60 to 100

anyway, here´s a good read for those that want to understand more about the economy & Brexit Here's how the EU calculated that 100 billion euro Brexit bill

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Wow every single thing you just said shows how clueless you are.

what part exactly?

did Farage explain before the Brexit that the UK has financial long-term commitments that cannot be just ended without compensation?

did Farage not resign?

isn't Farage still member of the EU parliament and collecting money from the EU?

please explain my cluelessness in regards to these 3 points...

thanks

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Be careful what you ask for you might just get it. The last "EU" was called the Roman Empire -- how did that work out in the end? The Dark Ages.
After Pax Europaea?

well what exactly is the US ???

is it not a UNION of different states ?

what is germany ? NOT a union of 19 states where 2 of the still have an own constitution?
what is switzerland, italy or even THE NETHERLANDS ?????
what is canada and and and......

ALL this countries are basicly nothing else as a union of different countries and that this is working even in a 7-million country where FOUR different languages are spoken you can see on the example of sitzerland.

the EU is still a little baby and still have a lot of open questions but it is the one and only way to survive.

other examples you see in ex-yugoslavia and the ex soviet union where it can lead if a country tries it alone. they are either fucked or back in some kind of union what let them survive.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

I give you a starter; the babyboom

next ...

oh germans are the invetors of the baby boom?
and if so WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH IT ??

i do not really know if i feel mad or worry for you - you really should go back to school before you discuss matters in a beer bar manor.

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by thommy

oh germans are the invetors of the baby boom?
and if so WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH IT ??

i do not really know if i feel mad or worry for you - you really should go back to school before you discuss matters in a beer bar manor.

The baby boom happend after WW2 when people where free and making a lot of babies to build the country and start new lives. Cause a lot of young man where murdered. And therefor we have the more elderly people that has to be supported by the younger ones.

And now we have the German Guilt that made merkel say "Wir Schaffen Das". For the third time some Germans want's a big empire.

Beer bar manor? That is how the European politicians talk; We want "60 billion" cheers ! after 3 beers; You know what, let's ask 100 Billion!!!! We will have good pensions, destroy England and scare other countries. Cheers!! And than we can use that to scare right wing people, yeahhh! Shouting Europe! Europe! Europe in the bar. That is how i imagine it went.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

The baby boom happend after WW2 when people where free and making a lot of babies to build the country and start new lives. Cause a lot of young man where murdered. And therefor we have the more elderly people that has to be supported by the younger ones.

you clearly have been drinking too much...

if you want to blame something for the current situation of not enough young people to support the elderly, it is the invention of birth control and not enough (regulated) immigration to make up for it.

but that's probably too intellectual and scientific for all right wing idiots to understand

but if you really want to, you can read it up

[Barry-xlovecam]

thommy

The United States is a federal state (or unified government).

U.S. Constitution

Tenth Amendment

The Tenth Amendment helps to define the concept of federalism, the relationship between Federal and state governments. As Federal activity has increased, so too has the problem of reconciling state and national interests as they apply to the Federal powers to tax, to police, and to regulations such as wage and hour laws, disclosure of personal information in recordkeeping systems, and laws related to strip-mining.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitu...enth_amendment

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

The EU is a confederation of sovereign nations.

Simple answer:
The EU Parliament issues directives to the sovereign nations-states of the EU and those nation-states enact legislation that will enforce that directive within each nations sovereign jurisdiction.

When the US Congress legislates a law and the President enacts it by signing -- all 50 states are bound by that law. In the USA the states are compelled to obey laws as written by the Federal government.

All US Americans carry US Passports not like in the EU -- there is no EU passport only rights guaranteed by national consent of confederation. You are a citizen of France, Germany, etc ... first

[nico-t]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

The EU is a confederation of sovereign nations.

Simple answer:
The EU Parliament issues directives to the sovereign nations-states of the EU and those nation-states enact legislation that will enforce that directive within each nations sovereign jurisdiction.

[...]

All US Americans carry US Passports not like in the EU -- there is no EU passport only rights guaranteed by national consent of confederation. You are a citizen of France, Germany, etc ... first

Sadly in practice it doesn't work like this: Whatever the EU says, countries must follow like an order. They leave the illusion that the people have a choice, but never, ever listen to them. For example the Dutch government is a lapdog of the EU. The people voted against EU constitution in 2005 and against the EU - Ukraine expansion disguised as a "trade deal" in 2016. Both completely ignored and rammed down our throats anyway.

Fuck the EU

[Tasty1]

Originally Posted by StefanG

you clearly have been drinking too much...

if you want to blame something for the current situation of not enough young people to support the elderly, it is the invention of birth control and not enough (regulated) immigration to make up for it.

but that's probably too intellectual and scientific for all right wing idiots to understand

but if you really want to, you can read it up

Ohh, you found out there are more reasons... i have more and more.. It is not 1 issue, it is the combination. Now about the German Guilt, explain that. Merkels Guilt can be directly linked to the Brexit. Just like WW2 triggered the "never again" campaign and let's make a new empire and call it EU. Altough a lot of people don't want to be ruled from Berlin or Brussels. And that is also an inheritance of WW2, on both ways.

So you are right wing if you don't want an overall globalism. Not many years ago people would see you as left wing when you where against total globalism.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

thommy

The United States is a federal state (or unified government).


The EU is a confederation of sovereign nations.

correct that have been all the states in US too before 1788 - they just made a joint venture what started 1776 and this joint venture is still NOT ONE COUNTRY til today.

in ONE country it would not be possible to have death penalty in one part and not in the other. if you look at the enourmous list of laws in US what are only existing in ONE state you can not tell me the america is ONE country yet.

Simple answer:
The EU Parliament issues directives to the sovereign nations-states of the EU and those nation-states enact legislation that will enforce that directive within each nations sovereign jurisdiction.

up to a point. the individual countries in the EU have still MANY invidiual relulatories what are in some case senseful and in other cases not.
but there are many rules in the EU contract what EVERY country have to follow - no matter if that is in their souvereign jurisdication different. that was one of the main
reasons for the existance of the EU do act TOGETHER and not AGIANST eah other.

When the US Congress legislates a law and the President enacts it by signing -- all 50 states are bound by that law. In the USA the states are compelled to obey laws as written by the Federal government.

so that measn that the US gouverment have not done it´s job because after so many hundrests of years states have so many different laws that you can not call it country.

All US Americans carry US Passports not like in the EU -- there is no EU passport only rights guaranteed by national consent of confederation. You are a citizen of France, Germany, etc ... first

that not 100% true - the passport of EVERY single EU country says FIRST:

EUROPEAN UNION and THAN the country.

remember that the EU is in fact not even 20 years old and still have to find a way how everybody´s interests are fitting together. that is a hard and long way and not possible to change in one generation.
look in the south of united states - til TODAY they wish slavery back and respect their own flag over the US-flag.

living together or doing things together can NEVER work if all sites want to have it their way. it is a process of conclusions. some of them will hurt and some of them will help.

we all know that EU is not perfect and will never be - but it is the only chance to survive in a global world and give people the prosperity they hope for.
and NO it will not be prosperity for all of them unfortuantely - but the social net will take care the weak and unhealthy and they will spend back what we give to them and this is the circle of money and base of prosperity.

unfortuantely still many europeans live in the past. they beleive that "before was all better" even when it is not true.
especially the younger people who never have seen bad times don´t know the difference between than and now. they do not know that it was just a fraction of people who could afford to go on holidays every year - the majority could not.
they can not remember a time when someone was treaten like a king when he had a phone or a TV at home. and they can not imagine how long someone had to work for buying it.

and these are only examples what I can remember from my own life. if you go back further you will end up at a time when people were thrown out from the city when they were sick and they let them die there.

you come back to a time when someone who had just more power as another could easily kill someone and don´t get sued for it. you get back to a time were just the strongest and not the smartest one made the rules.

EU is nothing for egoists - it is an idea for teamplayers. and this is what we need to survive on this planet.

i give you just ONE littel example what i was reading just a few minutes ago:

the EU is thinking to sue poland because they are planning to destory the last natural parks there. poland have signed the contract for natural resorts in the EU and this place what they want to make industrial is one of them.

i think it is GREAT that we have this instrumenst to do something when a country is doing such a crime.

we can´t stop brazil from killing their forests (and taking the air to breathe from EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD) - only a strong union can stop that because this union is big and important enough.

the problems our world is facing today are VERY different and MUCH bigger as the problems we had in the past. not one country can resolve this problems alone. if that would be the right way for evolution we still would live alone with wife and kids in a cave. the success of human being is the way we learned to live together and accept compromises.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by nico-t

Sadly in practice it doesn't work like this: Whatever the EU says, countries must follow like an order. They leave the illusion that the people have a choice, but never, ever listen to them. For example the Dutch government is a lapdog of the EU. The people voted against EU constitution in 2005 and against the EU - Ukraine expansion disguised as a "trade deal" in 2016. Both completely ignored and rammed down our throats anyway.

Fuck the EU

FUCK YOU - you do not have the smallest clue of the EU - so stop to promote your fake news.

what would be a union if there are no rules?

and ALL members of the EU have SIGNED to accept this rules - so also the netherland did it.
what shall they do? send every single dutch to brussel to make an own agreement you dumb ?

why do you not complain on your countries laws ?
you also did not make them OTHERS made them for you, you silly.

i tell you what is your problem - you are young but stupid and lazy - you are not able to change your mind so you want is the circumstances follow your intellect.

go back and live in a cave that´s where people like you should be.

[femdomdestiny]

Eu is falling apart anyway, just ignoring them would be the smartest move. They are incapable, impotent and stupid anyway.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Why hate America -- Europe it totally fucked up too

We already had our Civil War -- good luck with yours.

I have never seen a passport issued by the EU -- there are none.

The EU is NOT one inadvisable nation. Stop fooling yourself. Every nations' populace in the EU has a Plan B exit strategy.

In fact if you study US history US states acted very similarly in the 20 years before the American Civil War. Roughly 2% of the population, an estimated 620,000 men, lost their lives in the American Civil War -- over states rights and succession from the union.

Good fucking luck ... We have assholes wearing red hats still trying to fight the states-rights issue and against federalism 150 years later ...

Without the EU Europe is just a bunch of nations for the world to deal with and half of them amount to very little. Can you imagine the US state of Alabama negotiating a trade deal with Russia, China or India? Why bother?

[DraX]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What will the EU do if the UK refuses to pay?

Stop selling goods to the UK?

This is just grandstanding by the EU to scare other countries from demanding the right to vote on whether their country is ruled from Brussels.

When the U.K. leaves for good the EU still need them and vice versa. EU is a corrupt organization using bully mentality to set the rules. Congratulations to all liberals and left for believing everything that is said and done and lobbying for more power to the EU.

EU have moved too fast with leadership at the top promoting and focusing on the wrong things. As a first there's a handful of membership countries that shouldn't be allowed entry at all yet until they fixed their own standard. Organized crime have been spreading to richer countries and with no borders they can move around from country to country stealing and looting cause that's exactly what they do. The new modern viking running mayhem in Europe and no leader have to take any kind of responsibility.

Animals, machines, cars, boat engines are stolen and shipped back to the countries that should never have been allowed entrance into the EU.

FUCK EU...

I'm amazed by the people who still defend this shit organization.