Business Subpoena request. Need help!

[loveparade]

A few days ago I git email "I am requesting a physical address along with a contact phone number and fax number to send a subpoena request to your website regarding an ongoing criminal investigation. " It was sent from some detective, and email was from lbpd.com

WTF?! The old adult blog damplips.com , nothing illegal. What could it be?
No spam, no illegal content, fuck, I even don't use popups. I have just a few ideas:

Something with content? Affiliate Programs give me access to their paysites so I could make small videos to promote them. So, I don't use their content without permission. I used to promote WatchMyGF a long time ago and you know, they use some cam videos, that don't belong to them. So sometimes I get takedown requests and remove such videos without any problems.

Also sometimes I get emails where people ask me to remove some comment with their name or telephone number. I do it without any problems. Maybe someone decided to sue, not just ask me to remove the comment with his name?

Also my website dont have 18 year old warning on the main page. Is it crime? There are many porn sites without this. All large tubes, and even paysites.

So, I asked the detective to explain something, but no answer. I'm not from US so I can't visit the court. Could someone recommend a lawyer to help me with this situation?

[PaperstreetWinston]

A detective failing to detect your details and asking you to help him do his job doesnt sound very legit. Might be a scam of some sort.

[lock]

Since when did the cops tip people off to say the cops are coming? Better get a head start.

[loveparade]

The first thought was that it was just a joke, but it was sent from [email protected]

[PaperstreetWinston]

Originally Posted by loveparade

The first thought was that it was just a joke, but it was sent from [email protected]

OH! didnt pay much attention to that part

Originally Posted by lock

Since when did the cops tip people off to say the cops are coming? Better get a head start.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by lock

Since when did the cops tip people off to say the cops are coming? Better get a head start.

it means they are watching you. try to leave and see what happens op. they have a warrant for your arrest. thread bookmarked. me? i would flee! pack a backpack grab sum cash at the atm and vanish go off the grid. you are facing some kind of charges. unless you help someone. you witness any accidents? call in a crime? there are so many things keep us in the loop oh and lock they are going by the law to avoid a messed up case.

A subpoena to appear to testify is a court order. If you disobey the subpoena by failing to appear, you will be held in contempt, and the court will likely issue a bench warrant for you, and you will be arrested. You are better served by appearing in court in response to the subpoena.

get a plan at pre-paid legal. you can then talk to a lawyer

[Barry-xlovecam]

It's a fishing expedition -- they have no jurisdiction outside of the US. Give them your lawyer's address if you want -- do not have any contact with them except by, and through, your legal counsel.

[xxx6live]

But if you are not in the US?

Tlhe court in US can not go after you if you live in anorher country. as far as I understand. Just problems if they find out your real name and you are travelling to US in the future. Or if the case are serious enough to be brougt to court in your own country.

My thoughts. Not a lawyer.

[klinton]

lol @ US trying to prosecute you if you live outside USA

did you ever do something illegal ?
maybe somebody is joking with you, not that hard to spoof email sender

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

It's a fishing expedition -- they have no jurisdiction outside of the US. Give them your lawyer's address if you want -- do not have any contact with them except by, and through, your legal counsel.

US has a very long arm ... and gets foreigners extradited quite easily .

Like you said, the best is to get legal representation and from that point they can send/serve whatever to you thru that lawyer .

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by xxx6live

But if you are not in the US?

Tlhe court in US can not go after you if you live in anorher country. as far as I understand. Just problems if they find out your real name and you are travelling to US in the future. Or if the case are serious enough to be brougt to court in your own country.

My thoughts. Not a lawyer.

he's in the united states illegally! god you guys are slow!

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by xxx6live

But if you are not in the US?

Tlhe court in US can not go after you if you live in anorher country. as far as I understand. Just problems if they find out your real name and you are travelling to US in the future. Or if the case are serious enough to be brougt to court in your own country.

My thoughts. Not a lawyer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-arm_jurisdiction
Happens all the time.
The Eastern District of Texas US federal court is a favored place to file.
If you allege that persons in that federal district were affected by the defendant's action the court may allow 'Long Arm Jurisdiction' collecting any judgment may be a problem ...
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/news...drug-smugglers

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

he's in the united states illegally! god you guys are slow!

^I'm not from US so I can't visit the court.

He didn't say he is in the USA...

[VRR]

OP, the sender is required to identify themselves, list all details and state their relation to this. Unless they do that, hit the trash button.

[Zuzana Designs]

http://lbpd.com needs a new design!

[Klen]

Originally Posted by xxx6live

But if you are not in the US?

Tlhe court in US can not go after you if you live in anorher country. as far as I understand. Just problems if they find out your real name and you are travelling to US in the future. Or if the case are serious enough to be brougt to court in your own country.

My thoughts. Not a lawyer.

Yep that is exactly reason why is better not to screw with such things, and also if you want to use that country as market you could be blocked for doing bussiness there.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by klinton

lol @ US trying to prosecute you if you live outside USA

did you ever do something illegal ?
maybe somebody is joking with you, not that hard to spoof email sender

They can ask for extradition if they have a treaty with target country, or if target country extradite based on interpol request.

[klinton]

for what ? what kind of crime ?
The guy murdered someone on his page ?

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

They can ask for extradition if they have a treaty with target country, or if target country extradite based on interpol request.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

^I'm not from US so I can't visit the court.

He didn't say he is in the USA...

why worry if you are not in the country?? also the mention of getting a lawyer in a country you don't live in. that add up 4u??

[loveparade]

I'm not in USA, and have never been there. Nevertheless I do not need any problems if I'm going to visit it.

I got just one email from them, I asked them to explain what is going on, but no answer for three days.

Also it is strange that usually I get abuses and other requests to my website host, it is like official way to reach the owner of a website, I thought so. But here, they just send me email to the address that was written somewhere in the footer. The email that I even don't check often.

How much can a lawyer cost? Where have I find it? I found some from the same city hg.org/lawfirms/usa-new-york/long-beach.html
One looks like Saul. I don't have experience in such issues. I look at their faces and don't believe them.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by loveparade

I'm not in USA, and have never been there. Nevertheless I do not need any problems if I'm going to visit it.

I got just one email from them, I asked them to explain what is going on, but no answer for three days.

Also it is strange that usually I get abuses and other requests to my website host, it is like official way to reach the owner of a website, I thought so. But here, they just send me email to the address that was written somewhere in the footer. The email that I even don't check often.

How much can a lawyer cost? Where have I find it? I found some from the same city hg.org/lawfirms/usa-new-york/long-beach.html
One looks like Saul. I don't have experience in such issues. I look at their faces and don't believe them.

maybe they are headed to give you a ride. why did you call???? god i really don't know if that is the same as being served. did you give your name? if you don't want to hide take the papers.

[Adraco]

You do not need a lawyer in this case. Ignore it at first and see if the send a second notice. But it really sounds like some white-knight who want to save his new girlfriend from showing up online. Captain-Save-A-Ho rides again!

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by loveparade

I'm not in USA, and have never been there. Nevertheless I do not need any problems if I'm going to visit it.

I got just one email from them, I asked them to explain what is going on, but no answer for three days.

Also it is strange that usually I get abuses and other requests to my website host, it is like official way to reach the owner of a website, I thought so. But here, they just send me email to the address that was written somewhere in the footer. The email that I even don't check often.

How much can a lawyer cost? Where have I find it? I found some from the same city hg.org/lawfirms/usa-new-york/long-beach.html
One looks like Saul. I don't have experience in such issues. I look at their faces and don't believe them.

first of all you should not have replied.
anything official will come thru the mail with signature confirmation. emailing you doesn't account for anything, act as if it went to the spam folder and youre good.

back in the day epiccash had some cigarette selling site you could promote, so i registered a domain and promoted selling cigarettes mostly via se....a month or two later I get a nice big document envelope, like 50 pages from Big Tobacco company informing me to give them the domain bla bla bla....point is no one would email you for anything serious. so don't worry about it.

[CurrentlySober]

It is possible to spoof the email as being sent by the lbpd... Perhaps thats why you never heard back?

Check the headers on the original email - Is it really from the poolice? Poost the headers here if you are not sure - Someone will be able to tell you if its legit or snot.

[Brian mike]

YOU TELL THEM FUCK OFF

[ScottAE]

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

http://lbpd.com needs a new design!

Best comment in this thread

[SpicyM]

Just ignore it, you don't have to give them anything they ask.. And they also can't prove you even got or read the email... well unless you replied of course

But even if you replied, it still doesn't 100% prove it was you. Anyone can sit at your PC.

Most likely it's bullshit as email is not the official way of contact - but I know a case when a police officer phoned a dude to ask him to come and testify. It is faster for them, but you can ask for the official mail.

[blackmonsters]

You got an email from the police.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by klinton

for what ? what kind of crime ?
The guy murdered someone on his page ?

I was just saying as example, it doesn't mean how he will be extradited

[Klen]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

It is possible to spoof the email as being sent by the lbpd... Perhaps thats why you never heard back?

Check the headers on the original email - Is it really from the poolice? Poost the headers here if you are not sure - Someone will be able to tell you if its legit or snot.

Yes wanted to say that as well, how he should check header source to see how e-mail is not spoofed.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

US has a very long arm ... and gets foreigners extradited quite easily .

Like you said, the best is to get legal representation and from that point they can send/serve whatever to you thru that lawyer .

Many countries will not extradite their own citizens

[loveparade]

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

It is possible to spoof the email as being sent by the lbpd... Perhaps thats why you never heard back?

Check the headers on the original email - Is it really from the poolice? Poost the headers here if you are not sure - Someone will be able to tell you if its legit or snot.

It was the second my thought after the thought that it was just a joke.
I checked the email and unfortunately it was sent from [email protected]
I even have checked the domain, maybe it was fake police website, no, it is real. Although i'm not sure 100%. But the website is very old. I cheked it with web.archive.org

[Adraco]

I am having a very hard time believing a real police would indeed send emails from an ordinary .com address. Reasonably it would be from a .gov or a state issued address, one that not any knick knack can register and start sending emails from.

I would not worry about this, put it aside and forget about it, enjoy the weekend instead!

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Adraco

I am having a very hard time believing a real police would indeed send emails from an ordinary .com address. Reasonably it would be from a .gov or a state issued address, one that not any knick knack can register and start sending emails from.

I would not worry about this, put it aside and forget about it, enjoy the weekend instead!

Well , there is www.longbeach.gov/police/ so it is still possible how it's a fake .

[Adraco]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Well , there is www.longbeach.gov/police/ so it is still possible how it's a fake .

Exactly, and those email addresses listed there are "@" longbeach.gov
A government address, not available for individuals to register or use. Hence why I would not worry about an email from a .com address.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

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[JimmyStephans]

Those links are two different towns named Long Beach.

The OP link, and website information is New York

The www.longbeach.gov/police/ link is California.

That may explain why they had to use .COM, because .GOV was taken?

[TheDynasty]

email is probably spoofed.

[celandina]

Just another Nigerian scam, same as the PayPal security warnings, Bank audit warnings...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Get a local attorney there where you live to clarify what they want. The police only will investigate criminal, and not civil matters. If you plan on visiting the USA you should have a lawyer make inquiries in writing (via email [ or by Fed-X or DHL overnight letter <better] ). If the police are actually looking in a foreign nation this is about something major.

[GAMEFINEST]

Disregard hoes acquire currency

[Konda]

Most likely some ex girlfriend that complained her video is on your site and now they want you to handover the IP address of whoever uploaded it or provided it to you.

You are not in the US so just ignore it. If it was something more serious or if they were after you personally they would have contacted your domain registrar and/or host, not you. So I wouldn't worry.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

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you long piece of shit!

[BaldBastard]

You shouldn't of replied.

Now that you have, just comply with what they want.

If you have had a DMCA to remove files fully understand the DMCA means fuck all except "please remove this file", its what they do next that can bite you on the ass.

It doesn't matter what country you are in, a court case will eat away at your brain, its not something I would wish upon anyone. In the USA they can follow a case thru all the way without you having to be there at all. Once the charge is processed in the USA then they have to bring that to your country, where you might have a chance of fighting it again.

That was the situation in my case anyway.

Subpoenas can be issued via email, this very board, and the bad advise on it got that passed in to law!!

[j3rkules]

An e-mail subpoena is not a valid form of service of process. Just delete it.

[Barry-xlovecam]

https://www.enom.com/terms/subpoena_criminal.asp
You can play internet games all day ...

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by j3rkules

An e-mail subpoena is not a valid form of service of process. Just delete it.

It certainly fucking can be..

WILLIAMS v. ADVERTISING SEX LLC

http://blog.internetcases.com/2005/1...nts-by-e-mail/


https://www.serve-now.com/resources/e-service-cases

[Barry-xlovecam]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

It certainly fucking can be..

WILLIAMS v. ADVERTISING SEX LLC

http://blog.internetcases.com/2005/1...nts-by-e-mail/


https://www.serve-now.com/resources/e-service-cases

That ruling is not in a criminal law case. (either link)
The police (at least in the USA) do not, and will not, investigate *free standing* civil matters.

Cloudflare will roll over too ;)
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/1...eal_customers/
Cloudflare ordered by judge to help unmask two website owners

At very least a US Court can act in rem to seize your US registered domain and any servers you have on US soil -- lawyer up or move to the dark web and start living under a rock. It might be nothing too or just information you would gladly furnish to make this just go away.

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

It certainly fucking can be..

No it can't.

They couldn't prove you received or read that. Contrary to that, when you receive an official letter, you need to sign a delivery receipt at the post office.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

No it can't.

They couldn't prove you received or read that. Contrary to that, when you receive an official letter, you need to sign a delivery receipt at the post office.

Ok I didn't receive one and I didn't get slammed with 1.6 million in fines from it, and you know better.

thanks.

The problem is we always presume its a jilted lover or whatever, where as in my case it turned out to be a pissed off lawyer with way to much time on their hands, just on 1/4 tonne paperwork sits in my storage.