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Old 06-05-2017, 01:32 PM   #1
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Trump official blames Flint water crisis on f*cking n*****s who don?t pay their bills

Trump people blame black residents for led in their water, amazing.

"?Flint has the same problems as Detroit ? f*cking n*****s don?t pay their bills,? Stair says on the recording"

"He claimed the city, which is 56 percent black, was forced to begin using contaminated water from the Flint River after Detroit raised prices to account for its own unpaid water bills."

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Flint official blames water crisis on f*cking n*****s? who ?donâ??t pay their bills?

An official with a publicly funded land bank in Flint, Michigan, blamed the city?s water crisis on ?f*cking n*****s? who fail to pay their bills.

Audio recordings made by an environmental activist appear to show Phil Stair, sales manager for the Genesee County Land Bank, using racial slurs and blaming poor residents for rising water costs, reported Truth Against The Machine.

?Flint has the same problems as Detroit ? f*cking n*****s don?t pay their bills,? Stair says on the recording, which was made May 26 during a conversation with environmental activist and independent journalist Chelsea Lyons.

Stair was driving to a restaurant with Lyons and another person when the recordings were made, according to the blog.

?I don?t want to call them n*****s, sh*t I just went to Myrtle Beach (with) 24 guys, and I was the only white guy,? Stair said. ?I got friends ? I mean, there?s trash and there?s people that do this sh*t. They just don?t pay their bills. Well, Detroit, didn?t collect on their bills, so they charged everybody else, but Flint, Flint had to pay their bill to Detroit.?

Stair is a government employee through the land bank, which is described on its website as a ?non-profit government organization.?

He claimed the city, which is 56 percent black, was forced to begin using contaminated water from the Flint River after Detroit raised prices to account for its own unpaid water bills.

Emails show Detroit offered significant price reductions to Flint in hopes of keeping its largest water customer, after an emergency manager appointed by Gov. Rick Snyder decided to switch Flint over to its own water supply.

Flint officials also pulled millions of dollars from the city?s water and sewage fund to its insolvent general fund.

Stair told the activist and reporter that he was the land bank?s first employee, and he claimed he was personally hired by now-Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI), who was then Genesee County treasurer.

Kildee responded to the report about Stair?s recorded statements by calling for his immediate removal.
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It's a little off the subject, but Reuters does some great long-form investigative pieces and they have a great one the lead problem in drinking water in different cities where it is just as bad or even worse than Flint.

Reuters Investigates: Lead?s hidden toll is felt across L.A.
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Trump says you don't need the EPA anymore, which means poison water isn't anyones concern. #MAGA
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He is not wrong.
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Not sure what it's got to do with Trump, though.

Sounds like OP is a fake news shit-stirring n****r.
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Trump says you don't need the EPA anymore, which means poison water isn't anyones concern. #MAGA
Yeah they got a 3 year extension to fix the pipes in Flint, another 3 fucking years of led water for those folks.
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He is not wrong.
You're lying.

They had a budget surplus when they switched the water over. Rick Snyder decided to switch to River water to increase the surplus by an additional $10 million.
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My guess is like the property taxes in Democrat run Detroit the water bill was just as ginormous. I just dumped a property in Cincinnati for this very reason. I was being charged around $30 a month "convenience fee" for water. This wasn't a bill for use. In fact it was never used and I never even asked for it to even be turned on. It was a fee for the "convenience" of having water on the property as if that's something special. Property taxes are insane as well for the hell hole that it is. Plus the city wanted me to pay $3600 a year just to apply for a permit along with carry $250k in liability insurance which no insurance company would underwrite. Just those 3 fees and taxes alone were $500+ a month for a house that needed total rehab and wouldn't be lived in for at least a year. I sat in front of a panel of 6 county and city "leaders" and told them all to go fuck themselves walked right out the door and immediately transferred the house. And then they wonder why no one wants to invest in their shitty city.
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Not sure what it's got to do with Trump, though.

Sounds like OP is a fake news shit-stirring n****r.
its been his MO for over a year or so. Adding 'Trump' to any headline that's negative. It's pretty pathetic.
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Not sure what it's got to do with Trump, though.

Sounds like OP is a fake news shit-stirring n****r.
He loves twisting facts like that.
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I remember seeing one news video where DeMonique iz bitching about her electricity bill and how she ain't no paying no mo and ain't fair. Meanwhile her fat ass Dequan iz playing xbox on brand new flat screen tv with windows opened.
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Many of the pipes are over 50 years old and from an era when lead was legally used in water supply systems.

Detroit has always charged excessive prices to the suburban and outlying counties.

Add to these problems; a declining area and the declining property tax base and the inability to raise funds by issuing new bonds for the water district.

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In all fairness, Trump had nothing to do with this. Gov. Rick Snyder (R) was elected during the Obama administration.
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OP is the self hating, gay hating, white hating, white guy.
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I blame the people for drinking the water and not demanding the city/county/state in fix it.
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Renters don't pay water bills, the landlord pays that.

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What exactly do you mean by "the people"? 👾
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Check out the prices of the houses. Some nice places of 1700 square feet are being sold for only $15,000. I saw another house for only $7000 for fuck sakes. Dirt-cheap pricing and they still can't sell. Really sad.
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That may be true in some states and some situations, but I have paid water bills as a renter in multiple states.
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That may be true in some states and some situations, but I have paid water bills as a renter in multiple states.
I've never paid a water bill my entire life of renting in multiple states, including 5 years in Australia. The owner or the rental agency always pays the water bill.

I'm assuming it has to do with the legality of habitability. Forget the water bill & it gets turned off, no water and the premises is legally uninhabitable. Not the same consequence with unpaid electric or trash.
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That may be true in some states and some situations, but I have paid water bills as a renter in multiple states.
damn. i have never seen an apartment that charges renters for water
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Check out the prices of the houses. Some nice places of 1700 square feet are being sold for only $15,000. I saw another house for only $7000 for fuck sakes. Dirt-cheap pricing and they still can't sell. Really sad.
That's because the property taxes are $500 a month. It's actually higher prices now. A few years back you could buy houses all day long for $1. I'm sure if you called up the assessors office you could probably buy 100 homes for $100 even today. But be warned after they sell them to you they will send out their codes goons and start racking up violation fees in addition to their astronomical tax.
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In most places in the USA there is a legal requirement of general repair and habitability of residential rental property. Water, sewer, electricity up to code (but not required to be supplied by the owner). Rental property has to be fit for the use intended, no broken glass, window screens, working locks, working plumbing, other ...

Water and sewerage bills, when unpaid, attach as a lien to the property -- that is the practical reason why landlords pay the water and sewerage bills.

I have a potable water well on my property, a new one I just put in for $4,800 2 years ago. No water bills just city sewer. My drinking water is reverse-osmosis purified -- like bottled water from the tap.
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In most places in the USA there is a legal requirement of general repair and habitability of residential rental property. Water, sewer, electricity up to code (but not required to be supplied by the owner). Rental property has to be fit for the use intended, no broken glass, window screens, working locks, working plumbing, other ...

Water and sewerage bills, when unpaid, attach as a lien to the property -- that is the practical reason why landlords pay the water and sewerage bills.

I have a potable water well on my property, a new one I just put in for $4,800 2 years ago. No water bills just city sewer. My drinking water is reverse-osmosis purified -- like bottled water from the tap.
Is reverse osmosis the same as distilled drinking water like you use for newborns and their formula? Or you buy at the store. I get confused there is purified water from whatever mountains and then pure distilled water which has less taste but is nothing but pure H2O.
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Wait, so a racist guy at a bank is somehow a "Trump official" in the administration??

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I've never paid a water bill my entire life of renting in multiple states, including 5 years in Australia. The owner or the rental agency always pays the water bill.
Of course, you paid for the water. It comes out of the rent money.

This whole episode is what happens when an area loses jobs, industries and the taxes from those. The local government runs out of money. Expect to see more of it.

Not passing laws forcing Water Companies to get rid of lead pipes doesn't help.
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The public water and sewerage is a public owned agency of county government. Revenues come from bond money from municipal bonds that the voters have to approve and the proceeds of water and sewerage bills.

If the state or the federal government ordered the replacement of the old pipes with lead contamination someone has to pay for them. Even if there is a federal grant to do this taxes (nationally) pay for this.

The bigger issue is that the same problem exists in many other cities -- crisis just has not come to them yet. So, this is an infrastructure time bomb hidden underground.

What good is a *safe* Iraq supported by US military might when US Americans drink water that is unsafe? As a nation, the USA has to rethink its priorities. In that aspect -- it should be America First. You cannot send and armada of navy ships to fix the problems of US cities ...

I just paid $4,800 not to have to deal with this stupidity -- put in a new water well. I am in the same county as Flint but my property is worth 10 times what it would be worth in the City of Flint. One reason is you can drink the water here. The water district has a main in the road out front but I am not tapped in -- the poison flows down the street. People are not paying their water bill in Flint because the water is not fit for the use intended -- you cannot drink it from the tap and it is advised not to bathe infants and small children in it -- why would you pay for it?
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The public water and sewerage is a public owned agency of county government. Revenues come from bond money from municipal bonds that the voters have to approve and the proceeds of water and sewerage bills.

If the state or the federal government ordered the replacement of the old pipes with lead contamination someone has to pay for them. Even if there is a federal grant to do this taxes (nationally) pay for this.

The bigger issue is that the same problem exists in many other cities -- crisis just has not come to them yet. So, this is an infrastructure time bomb hidden underground.

What good is a *safe* Iraq supported by US military might when US Americans drink water that is unsafe? As a nation, the USA has to rethink its priorities. In that aspect -- it should be America First. You cannot send and armada of navy ships to fix the problems of US cities ...

I just paid $4,800 not to have to deal with this stupidity -- put in a new water well. I am in the same county as Flint but my property is worth 10 times what it would be worth in the City of Flint. One reason is you can drink the water here. The water district has a main in the road out front but I am not tapped in -- the poison flows down the street. People are not paying their water bill in Flint because the water is not fit for the use intended -- you cannot drink it from the tap and it is advised not to bathe infants and small children in it -- why would you pay for it?
You're so damn smart I love it! Did you get your place for a bargain? You can PM me if you want, your story is interesting to me I've been looking to a change. $4,800 isn't bad at all for safe water and increasing property value
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why does society's bottom keep referring to people appointed by democrats as "Trump officials"?


"""Stair told the activist and reporter that he was the land bank’s first employee, and he claimed he was personally hired by now-Rep. Dan Kildee (D-MI), who was then Genesee County treasurer."""
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A racist Republican is a racist Republican.

Government officials & employees are Trump officials & employees. Just like when Obama was President of the United States of America government officials & employees under Obama were Obama officials & employees.
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That may be true in some states and some situations, but I have paid water bills as a renter in multiple states.
Maybe you were paying it to the same guy who just quit before he got fired.

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You're so damn smart I love it! Did you get your place for a bargain? You can PM me if you want, your story is interesting to me I've been looking to a change. $4,800 isn't bad at all for safe water and increasing property value
I don't consider putting in a new well as increasing a property's value any more than having a working hot water heater does. Without its functioning correctly your property is worth less its cost of replacement -- so it is retaining the property's value really. If you want to get technical, the depreciated values of roofs, driveways, siding, and electrical and plumbing obsolescence affect the appraisal value of property on a depreciated appraisal basis.

I bought this property for a special use 18 years ago -- residential variance on industrial property with allowed open storage on the lot. It was used as a small business that I no longer have. It's paid for, free and clear for years now, and I will move sooner or later. Hardly sitting on a *gold mine* so I am in no rush ... I bought it rather cheap as it was a non-conforming property. But there are lots of reasons property sells cheap: estate property, foreclosure property, fire damaged I have been involved in the purchase of all of those. You just need some cash and a motivated seller that will carry back a note on the deal Or, all cash at your price.
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Government officials & employees are Trump officials & employees. Just like when Obama was President of the United States of America government officials & employees under Obama were Obama officials & employees.
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Many of the pipes are over 50 years old and from an era when lead was legally used in water supply systems.

Detroit has always charged excessive prices to the suburban and outlying counties.

Add to these problems; a declining area and the declining property tax base and the inability to raise funds by issuing new bonds for the water district.



In all fairness, Drumpf had nothing to do with this. Gov. Rick Snyder (R) was elected during the Obama administration.
This is going to become a huge, nationwide problem. Here in my hometown we are starting to have problems with our water pipes. We (meaning every city in the nation) tends to put the pipes underground and then forgets about them until they leak or otherwise fail. Now suddenly we have to dig up entire streets to fix them. For a small town this is very, very expensive.
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