ISIS Captures Tora Bora Afghan Fortress

[Barry-xlovecam]

Remember the M.O.A.B. ? Another Trump success story.

Hazrat Ali, a member of Parliament and a prominent warlord from the area who helped the Americans capture Tora Bora from Al Qaeda in 2001, said that the offensive was prompted by the American decision to drop the so-called mother of all bombs on an Islamic State network of tunnels in Achin District in April. The 20,000-pound bomb was thought to be the largest non-nuclear bomb ever deployed.

The Islamic State then decided to shift its refuge to the Tora Bora caves and tunnels, Mr. Ali said. ?Some 1,000 ISIS militants were gathered close to Tora Bora, to capture the area,? Mr. Ali said. ?I informed government forces to target them, and I told them they are trying to capture Tora Bora, but they did not pay attention.?


A local Afghan police official confirmed that the fortress had fallen. ?ISIS has captured Tora Bora and areas around it,? he said. ?The tribal elders are here in my office. They all escaped the area last night.? He spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the news media.

The game of whack-a-mole continues ...

"different countries -- different customs" Afghanistan 140 years ago -- little has changed in a lot of places.

[Joshua G]

boy its a good thing 1.7 billion muslims can contain the 20,000 or so dead enders warp their quran into a death cult.

wait a minute...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Fifteen years and $3 trillion dollars later we are still dropping bombs and cannot seem to beat a bunch of dedicated, vengeful, knuckle draggers -- think about that ...

[kane]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Fifteen years and $3 trillion dollars later we are still dropping bombs and cannot seem to beat a bunch of dedicated, vengeful, knuckle draggers -- think about that ...

That country has been invaded many times throughout history and none of them have been able to conquer it.

The Brits
Alexander the Great
Genghis Khan
The Russians
The Mughals
The Greeks
The Persians

At some point in time, all of these groups invaded Afghanistan and eventually lost.

I think it is fair to say we failed to learn from history on this one.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by kane

That country has been invaded many times throughout history and none of them have been able to conquer it.

The Brits
Alexander the Great
Genghis Khan
The Russians
The Mughals
The Greeks
The Persians

At some point in time, all of these groups invaded Afghanistan and eventually lost.

I think it is fair to say we failed to learn from history on this one.

Bore under the mountains, place 3-4 nukes. That will also slow down global warming

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Fifteen years and $3 trillion dollars later we are still dropping bombs and cannot seem to beat a bunch of dedicated, vengeful, knuckle draggers -- think about that ...

$3 trillion is dollars is a nice chunk of change to give to the private sector billionaires, in return for the millions they spend to buy your political system. -- think about that ...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Think of all the jobs it created

[teomaxxx]

Originally Posted by kane

That country has been invaded many times throughout history and none of them have been able to conquer it.

The Brits
Alexander the Great
Genghis Khan
The Russians
The Mughals
The Greeks
The Persians

At some point in time, all of these groups invaded Afghanistan and eventually lost.

I think it is fair to say we failed to learn from history on this one.

But still the main point is missing. Why in the hell to conquere such shithole at first? Leave them alone and you will save a shitload of your army members, shitload of local population and some money too in the process...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Neither the Russians nor the US Americans were there to conqueror. The Afghan Taliban were harboring Osama bin Laden after the 9/11 attack. When the Taliban refused to hand him over we attacked the Taliban. Didn't work out so well, did it?

My enemy's enemy who I armed attacked me in time.

Afghanistan is a passage country to control other regions -- that is why people try to conqueror and control the territory -- not for their goats, hairy women or poppy fields.

The Genghis Kahn didn't conquer and control -- he just wiped most of them out

GENGHIS KHAN'S CONQUESTS | Facts and Details
Mongols in Afghanistan

Genghis Khan's armies then destroyed other great Silk Road trading centers of Balkh, Nishapur, Ghazni and Herat, all in present-day Afghanistan and Iran. Damage done to the irrigation systems there have never been repaired.

The Mongol arrived in Herat, Afghanistan in 1221 and captured the city. The inhabitants were initially spared. But when they rose in revolt Genghis Khan told one his generals, "Since the dead have come to life, I command you to strike their heads from their body." Reportedly only 40 of the city's inhabitants survived.

By one estimate 1.6 million people were killed at Herat (no doubt an exaggeration, a more likely figure is 160,000). The inhabitants were initially spared after Herat was captured in 1221, but when they rose in revolt Genghis Khan told one his generals, "Since the dead have come to life, I command you to strike their heads from their body." Reportedly only nine people survived.

In Nishapur 1.7 million are said to have been killed (again an exaggeration, but there may have been as many as 500,000 people there). By some accounts when the Mongols had finished in 1219 no one was left. In Balkh, Afghanistan, the citizens of this fabled "Mother of Cities" were massacred after surrendering---"divided up according to the usual custom of hundreds and thousands put to the sword."

After conquering the cities of the Khwarizm, Genghis Khan headed south and spent of 1221-22 in the Hindu Kush in Afghanistan. His generals Subedei and Jebe circled the Caspian Sea in 1221-23 with 20,000 men and annihilated every army that got in their way.

[pimpmaster9000]

Follow the money....

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Follow the money....

Where did it lead you?

[Rochard]

But I thought.... Drumpf had a plan.....Didn't he say he had a plan to defeat ISIS in thirty days? He said "I know better than the generals".

I guess he is too busy playing golf. Again.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Think of all the jobs it created

There are far better ways to create jobs and profits than waging war.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Neither the Russians nor the US Americans were there to conqueror. The Afghan Taliban were harboring Osama bin Laden after the 9/11 attack. When the Taliban refused to hand him over we attacked the Taliban. Didn't work out so well, did it?

A few well-aimed missiles would have done a better job and cost less in lives and dollars.