North Korea crisis: Trump and South Korea to ?maximise pressure? on Pyongyang as Trump approves mult

[Sarn]

Donald Trump and his South Korean counterpart Moon Jae-in have agreed to "maximise pressure" on Pyongyang after the US President approved a weapons deal with Seoul worth billions of dollars.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7929686.html


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[pimpmaster9000]

Classic racket...create a problem and then sell protection against it while constantly maintaining the problem you created...Al Capone would be impressed...

[Rochard]

Drumpf doesn't understand this is the same problem we have faced for over fifty years. There is only two options - continue doing what we've done for the past fifty years, or go to war and watch millions of Koreans die.

There is "third option". We have been putting pressure on them and sanctions on them for decades with no change.

And btw, China has no desire to help us. China has a choice between North Korea as it is, or Korea becoming one country friendly to the United States which is just not an option for China.

Trump is setting up himself up for failure here. North Korea is not about to back down, because they know the United States will never attack. Millions will die if war breaks out. Knowing this, North Korea can do whatever it wants.

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

Classic racket...create a problem and then sell protection against it while constantly maintaining the problem you created...Al Capone would be impressed...

it politics)

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Sarn

it politics)

You mean politic$

[Bladewire]

Seems on the slow news days, like today, there's lots of talk about NK.

[Spunky]

Troubled times ahead,damned if you strike first but something has to stop this provocation

[ilnjscb]

The only option is attack. Unfortunately that is what happens when you put off your problems.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Welcome to the Korea Circus starring Trumpo and Kimbo the clowns.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Another day, another crisis ...
Looks like Putin and Xi are coming to the circus too.

Never a dull moment in hydrogen bomb land

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Drumpf doesn't understand this is the same problem we have faced for over fifty years. There is only two options - continue doing what we've done for the past fifty years, or go to war and watch millions of Koreans die.

There is "third option". We have been putting pressure on them and sanctions on them for decades with no change.

And btw, China has no desire to help us. China has a choice between North Korea as it is, or Korea becoming one country friendly to the United States which is just not an option for China.

Trump is setting up himself up for failure here. North Korea is not about to back down, because they know the United States will never attack. Millions will die if war breaks out. Knowing this, North Korea can do whatever it wants.

We've exhausted every avenue except limiting trade with China. We did the opposite while China provided the trade with NK in order for them to afford to build their military capabilities.

Now NK has a nuclear and the ability to deliver missiles to Japan and SK. Do we allow them to;

A. Build their missiles until they can deliver to the US or EU? This has been the response so far.

B. Impose trade restrictions on China? Got to be the safest options, China won't go to war with its largest customers.

C. Go to war? A bloody option but with surgical strikes the West can take out most of NK capabilities to wage war. NK can't keep the lights on 24/7 and will the majority of the population choose to back the Kim regime?

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

You mean politic$

For Japan Trump sell weapons too.
$$ - this is called national interest)

World War 3: Trump sells HIGHLY ADVANCED weapons to Japan & Seoul for North Korea conflict
DONALD Trump provoked fresh fears over World War 3 with North Korea after he revealed the USA would sell ?highly sophisticated? military equipment to Japan and South Korea.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...ea-world-war-3

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We've exhausted every avenue except limiting trade with China. We did the opposite while China provided the trade with NK in order for them to afford to build their military capabilities.
Now NK has a nuclear and the ability to deliver missiles to Japan and SK. Do we allow them to;
A. Build their missiles until they can deliver to the US or EU? This has been the response so far.
B. Impose trade restrictions on China? Got to be the safest options, China won't go to war with its largest customers.
C. Go to war? A bloody option but with surgical strikes the West can take out most of NK capabilities to wage war. NK can't keep the lights on 24/7 and will the majority of the population choose to back the Kim regime?

North Korean factories are making ?Made In China? clothes

?We take orders from all over the world,? said one Korean-Chinese businessman in Dandong, the Chinese border city where the majority of North Korea trade passes through. Like many people Reuters interviewed for this story, he spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

Dozens of clothing agents operate in Dandong, acting as go-betweens for Chinese clothing suppliers and buyers from the United States, Europe, Japan, South Korea, Canada and Russia, the businessman said.

?We will ask the Chinese suppliers who work with us if they plan on being open with their client ? sometimes the final buyer won?t realize their clothes are being made in North Korea. It?s extremely sensitive,? he said.
http://nypost.com/2017/08/14/north-k...china-clothes/

[Barry-xlovecam]

Be not so funny if Trump neckties labeled "Made in China" are revealed to be produced in North Korean sweatshops

[Barry-xlovecam]

At a time and place of our choosing fat boy
http://gizmodo.com/us-military-relea...pon-1798631840

[Sarn]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

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But Kim comrade have bigger missile than Trump comrade

[Barry-xlovecam]

Let the main event begin ...


Loser gets the strap-on up the ass!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

We've exhausted every avenue except limiting trade with China. We did the opposite while China provided the trade with NK in order for them to afford to build their military capabilities.

Now NK has a nuclear and the ability to deliver missiles to Japan and SK. Do we allow them to;

A. Build their missiles until they can deliver to the US or EU? This has been the response so far.

B. Impose trade restrictions on China? Got to be the safest options, China won't go to war with its largest customers.

C. Go to war? A bloody option but with surgical strikes the West can take out most of NK capabilities to wage war. NK can't keep the lights on 24/7 and will the majority of the population choose to back the Kim regime?

As expected, you completely fail to understand the situation.

A) You are aware Iran and Pakistan has nuclear missiles too, right? North Korea having nukes doesn't change the equation at all. They can never launch at the US. If they did, the US would fire back, and remove North Korea from the map.

B) Trade restrictions with China? Sure. We'll tell everyone in the US to stop buying products from China, Americans will riot, China will sell it's goods to everyone else, and then say "Well, we no longer have a reason not to be nice to North Korea" and then suddenly they become the best of friends. In cast you haven't figured it out, China will never accept "one Korea" that is friendly to the United States.

C) Go to war?

North Korea has one of the world's largest armies in the world. The moment hostilities break out, their army rushes the border. There is nothing the US or South Korea can do to stop this - nothing at all. In under twenty-four hours North Korean troops would be in Seoul, the capital of South Korea... Home to four million people. At that point we will have an all out war on our hands, requiring hundreds of thousands of US boots on the ground.

There is no doubt in my mind the US would win. They said similar things about Iraq. Iraq in 1989 had the world's fourth largest army, yet was defeated so quickly and so badly it was embarrassing. Twice I might add. These countries are not prepared to fight a large scale war, a technical war. Iraq lost so badly because in the opening strikes we took out their entire communications network. It's military couldn't give orders and couldn't see anything. Meantime we had people in the US telling US troops thousands of miles away what to do and where to go.

We only have two options....

1) Do nothing. And nothing changes. North Korea will never attack the US or South Korea. No one dies.
2) Go to war. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of people will die. Including a lot of Americans.

This is why we always pick option one. Option two is just not acceptable.

Of course Trump, with his utterly lack of military knowledge and political experience, seems to think he can solve it. With what - more sanctions? We've been doing this for how long now? Trump backed himself into a corner, threatened "fire and fury" and.... Nothing. North Korea responded by lobbing a ICBM over Japan. Now Trump will look weak. And stupid. Which will really help his 30% approval rating.