US flies mission north of DMZ, sends message to North Korea

[brassmonkey]

WASHINGTON (AP) - In a show of American military might to North Korea, U.S. bombers and fighter escorts flew on Saturday to the farthest point north of the border between North and South Korea by any such American aircraft this century. The Pentagon said the mission in international airspace showed how seriously President Donald Trump takes North Korea's "reckless behavior."

"This mission is a demonstration of U.S. resolve and a clear message that the president has many military options to defeat any threat," Defense Department spokesman Dana White said in a statement.

"North Korea's weapons program is a grave threat to the Asia-Pacific region and the entire international community. We are prepared to use the full range of military capabilities to defend the U.S. homeland and our allies," White said.

North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, has said Trump would "pay dearly" for threatening to "totally destroy" North Korea if the U.S. was forced to defend itself or its allies against a North Korean attack. Kim's foreign minister told reporters this past week that the North's response to Trump "could be the most powerful detonation of an H-bomb in the Pacific."

North Korea has said it intends to build a missile capable of striking all parts of the United States with a nuclear bomb. Trump has said he won't allow it, although the U.S. so far has not used military force to impede the North's progress.

The Pentagon said B-1B bombers from Guam, along with F-15C Eagle fighter escorts from Okinawa, Japan, flew in international airspace over waters east of North Korea on Saturday. The U.S. characterized the flights as extending farther north of the Demilitarized Zone, than any U.S. fighter or bomber had gone off the North Korean coast in the 21st century.

B-1 bombers are no longer part of the U.S. nuclear force, but they are capable of dropping large numbers of conventional bombs.

U.S. Pacific Command would not be more specific about many years it had been since U.S. bombers and fighters had flown that far north of the DMZ, but a spokesman, Navy Cmdr. Dave Benham, noted that this century "encompasses the period North Korea has been testing ballistic missiles and nuclear weapons."

At the United Nations, North Korea's foreign minister, Ri Yong Ho, said Saturday that his country's nuclear force is "to all intents and purposes, a war deterrent for putting an end to nuclear threat of the U.S. and for preventing its military invasion, and our ultimate goal is to establish the balance of power with the U.S."

He also said that Trump's depiction of Kim as "Rocket Man" makes "our rocket's visit to the entire U.S. mainland inevitable all the more."

Trump on Friday had renewed his rhetorical offensive against Kim.

"Kim Jong Un of North Korea, who is obviously a madman who doesn't mind starving or killing his people, will be tested like never before!" the president tweeted.

On Thursday, Trump announced more economic sanctions against the impoverished and isolated country, targeting foreign companies that deal with the North.

"North Korea's nuclear weapons and missile development is a grave threat to peace and security in our world and it is unacceptable that others financially support this criminal, rogue regime," Trump said as he joined Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and South Korean President Moon Jae-in for a meeting in New York.

Hours later, Kim responded by saying Trump was "deranged."

In a speech last week at the United Nations, Trump had issued the warning of potential obliteration and mocked the North's young autocrat as a "Rocket Man" on a "suicide mission."

Trump's executive order expanded the Treasury Department's ability to target anyone conducting significant trade in goods, services or technology with North Korea, and to ban them from interacting with the U.S. financial system.

Trump also said China was imposing major banking sanctions, too, but there was no immediate confirmation from the North's most important trading partner.

If enforced, the Chinese action Trump described could severely impede the isolated North's ability to raise money for its missile and nuclear development. China, responsible for about 90 percent of North Korea's trade, serves as the country's conduit to the international banking system.


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[Bladewire]

Trump pulling out his little peepee

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump pulling out his little peepee

this is a military move. we have to move on this one. he is threatening missile strikes. he has to die. most of this is not trump its the generals call trump just oks it

[TheDynasty]

lmk when the real action happens!

[jaYMan]

fuck the bastards nuke em... its clear they intend to fuck about...

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by jaYMan

fuck the bastards nuke em... its clear they intend to fuck about...

you are un educated we cannot nuked them. it falls back to our biggest enemy china the rice fucks

[jaYMan]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you are un educated we cannot nuked them. it falls back to our biggest enemy china the rice fucks

Not uneducated, impulsive maybe.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

you are un educated we cannot nuked them. it falls back to our biggest enemy china the rice fucks

To China, to Russia and to South Korea too

Maybe South Korea will tolerate the nuclear fallout, but China and Russia will not...

[jaYMan]

Wah... let's bio-engineer some shit to make their children have three eyes... seriously, fuck them.

They are intent on killing us, eh?

[klinton]

Originally Posted by jaYMan

Wah... let's bio-engineer some shit to make their children have three eyes... seriously, fuck them.

They are intent on killing us, eh?

lol, are you for real ?
their only intention is: "leave us alone and let us rule and have corrupted power over our nation. dont meddle in our internal affairs. meanwhile we will use you as a boogeyman for our nation to have more legitimacy for our corrupted power and explain that way every fault of us"

[klinton]

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

To China, to Russia and to South Korea too

Maybe South Korea will tolerate the nuclear fallout, but China and Russia will not...

afaik fallout wont be that spreaded out. also, the only dense populated areas in Russia close to NK is Vladivostok. and it aint even so close...
also, half of Europe had to accept what happened in USSR Chernobyl, without any warnings from Russia/Soviets/name it as you wish ...so I see no problems here comrade !

the only nervous countries should be South Korea or China.

but seriously, I hope that nothing will happen there. and if someone has the idea to disarm NK, I think thats the last chance...if they could only do it like Israeli did with one plane attack...but sadly that wont be a case here

[pimpmaster9000]

you would think that after 65 years of n.korea not doing shit the USA tells them that the USA would learn...but no...americans simply do not get it: nobody will ever listen to you ever under any circumstances...

[BaldBastard]

Trump seems to be doing his best to provoke a nuclear or other attack.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Trump seems to be doing his best to provoke a nuclear or other attack.

the missile test over japan were the last straw kim has to go!

[Phoenix]

While you guys sit there in the USA calling for war and making racist comments towards Asian people. I am sitting here in Korea, and wondering just how fucked in the head you are.Wishing harm on children held under the boot of a dictator?

Wanting to go to war because someone is firing off some missiles. Disgusting

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the missile test over apan was the last straw kim has to go!

they have done it a shitload of times

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

they have done it a shitload of times

new president different year

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

new president different year

Don't be whining about racist comments here anymore

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

the missile test over japan were the last straw kim has to go!

Where does he go, when he's in his own country?

And if you mean he needs to be removed, then replaced with whom?

And say the USA drops a few nukes, what's the plan for the biological weapons that will almost certainly be deployed in the USA, you fuck him and millions of Americans and others will die because he and his people will fuck you back in ways your worst nightmares can't imagine.... after all the USA did it to them..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allega...e_Korean_Wa r

then read this:

North Koreas Nightmare Chemical Weapons

Sanctions are needed, won't achieve much but Kim will certainly want them gone, thank fuck China came to the party on that one!.

Now its time to return to the negotiating table, which NK has said they will do, as long as the USA stops provoking them and conducting war games in the ocean around "Their" country.

And what's Trump done? Increased the war games, increased the intimidation publicly threatening to annihilate the country and its 25 million citizens.

Twitter boy needs to be removed, he's doing nothing except escalating the situation.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

Don't be whining about racist comments here anymore

rice = racist sorry i eat rice almost daily. believe me at this point i don't pay to much attention to the comments here.

[brassmonkey]

Muammar Gaddafi was removed who knows

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Where does he go, when he's in his own country?

And if you mean he needs to be removed, then replaced with whom?

And say the USA drops a few nukes, what's the plan for the biological weapons that will almost certainly be deployed in the USA, you fuck him and millions of Americans and others will die because he and his people will fuck you back in ways your worst nightmares can't imagine.... after all the USA did it to them..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allega...e_Korean_Wa r

then read this:

North Koreas Nightmare Chemical Weapons

Sanctions are needed, won't achieve much but Kim will certainly want them gone, thank fuck China came to the party on that one!.

Now its time to return to the negotiating table, which NK has said they will do, as long as the USA stops provoking them and conducting war games in the ocean around "Their" country.

And what's Trump done? Increased the war games, increased the intimidation publicly threatening to annihilate the country and its 25 million citizens.

Twitter boy needs to be removed, he's doing nothing except escalating the situation.

[DraX]

Anyone trash talking Trump for this move is a dumb lib and letting their feelings speak rather than sense.

This is a military move involving advisors, analysts, generals.

This is also a new government strategy towards North Korea, to see how they going to respond.

They've drained most other options while Kim-Jung Un have continued with his actions, this looks to be a natural development...

I hope Cruss will respond below with something in the lines of...

Draco on vacation in the U.S., and now pretends to be expert of the U.S. military forces, foreign politics etc

Make me laugh cruss, you owe it to me

[brassmonkey]

that's what i fuking said! u see china had no comment? if they nuke japan the whole region suffers

Originally Posted by DraX

Anyone trash talking Trump for this move is a dumb lib and letting their feelings speak rather than sense.

This is a military move involving advisors, analysts, generals.

This is also a new government strategy towards North Korea, to see how they going to respond.

They've drained most other options while Kim-Jung Un have continued with his actions, this looks to be a natural development...

I hope Cruss will respond below with something in the lines of...

Draco on vacation in the U.S., and now pretends to be expert of the U.S. military forces, foreign politics etc

Make me laugh cruss, you owe it to me

[Barry-xlovecam]

Pointless maneuver.
Further provocation.

Toast the North Koreans hitting them with a surprise attack or do nothing and let the sanctions squeeze North Korea until they capitulate.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by DraX

to see how they going to respond.

Nuclear, Biological or Chemical?, he has all three, biological is the most easy to deploy you can only presume it's already deployed awaiting deployment. All Kim has to do is kill maybe 2 people in the USA, country would descend in to chaos.

Trump is playing Russian roulette with all of your lives if "to see how they going to respond" is a factor.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Pointless maneuver.
Further provocation.

Toast the North Koreans hitting them with a surprise attack or do nothing and let the sanctions squeeze North Korea until they capitulate.

if they shoot another missile they will know what war is in 2017

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by DraX

Anyone trash talking Trump for this move is a dumb lib and letting their feelings speak rather than sense.

This is a military move involving advisors, analysts, generals.

This is also a new government strategy towards North Korea, to see how they going to respond.

They've drained most other options while Kim-Jung Un have continued with his actions, this looks to be a natural development...

I hope Cruss will respond below with something in the lines of...

Draco on vacation in the U.S., and now pretends to be expert of the U.S. military forces, foreign politics etc

Make me laugh cruss, you owe it to me

The us government and some Americans are being awfully cavalier with 100s of millions of lives in Asia...over shit that does not concern Americans at all...

100 beatings over somebody else's ass does not hurt one bit as the old saying goes...can't blame nkorea for nuking the fuck up...anybody would do the same under the same circumstances...

Ww2 germany and the USA have switched roles...Germany is now the leader of the free world and the USA is going towards the dark side more and more...

S Korea should arm up and expell the us army...they would be much better off...

[Barry-xlovecam]

Biological terrorism is the 800 pound (440kg) gorilla in the room.
It is very hard to defend a population from bioterrorism.

The reaction in retaliation would be decimation of the offenders political entity or sovereign state -- if a world power was the bioterrorism target. Any serious bioterrorism event would make the conflicts in the Middle East look like a trip to Disneyland

Hopefully, this is sufficient deterrence.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

you would think that after 65 years of n.korea not doing shit the USA tells them that the USA would learn...but no...americans simply do not get it: nobody will ever listen to you ever under any circumstances...

When they refuse to listen, they get bitch smacked.

Take Saddam for example. He refused to listen to the US. He was removed from power, his party was removed from office by force, and now he's dead. Same happened to the Taliban.

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When they refuse to listen, they get bitch smacked.

Take Saddam for example. He refused to listen to the US. He was removed from power, his party was removed from office by force, and now he's dead. Same happened to the Taliban.

This is not Saddam...and Iraq is now much worse off...a trillion $ wasted...

Kim has nukes and bacteria and chemicals and he would use them easy...he has a population that hates your guts living in an alternate reality fiercely loyal to him...they all hate your guts...with good reason, you have been oppressing them for like 7 decades...poking your noses in their shit...oh and murdering millions of Asians all around Asia and dropping nukes...on fishermen...

Do you believe me when I tell you they will never listen to you guys ever? LOL...I really can't tell if people in the USA get this...

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When they refuse to listen, they get bitch smacked.

Take Saddam for example. He refused to listen to the US. He was removed from power, his party was removed from office by force, and now he's dead. Same happened to the Taliban.

America made up that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, they didn't, they only had very basic weapons compared to Kim

And how many died?

Kim HAS got these weapons, took his own brother out with VX.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VX_(nerve_agent))

Its not a matter of IF he has this stuff but how many tonnes of it.

0.00035haoz can kill a person

3.4 ounces of liquid is allowed on USA flights, stick it in a perfume bottle say.. that's enough to kill 100,000 people. Skip to China buy a passport, hop on a plane to Washington, be hurried through customs as they double check all the evil Muslims.

And that's just one of many nasties he can throw if he wants.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Kill 100,000 US Americans and 10 to 20 million North Koreans get evaporated -- fair deal?

Remember who can access the nuclear football ...

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Kill 100,000 US Americans and 10 to 20 million North Koreans get evaporated -- fair deal?

Remember who can access the nuclear football ...

That's as likely scenario as anything, as long as you all understand many Americans will die and from that point on life as we know it is over.

Trump tests that threat almost daily at present.

Of course China and Russia won't sit back, might get a few hits in before they say stop it or we will react.

New week, its Kim's move, hardly likely he's going to back down, Trumps humiliated him, threatened to wipe-out the country and pushed them into a corner. Nothing can go wrong can it?

[Barry-xlovecam]

Believe me, the Chinese and Russians will not risk nuclear war over North Korea. Guess who backed himself into a corner and gets thrown under a bus.

The Chinese, Russians and the US talk a good game but they know the real consequences -- and don't have a death wish.

The world powers can walk all over weakly defended countries and do it all of the time. However, they are chicken shit to face-off for real with another world power on the battlefield.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

this is a military move. we have to move on this one. he is threatening missile strikes. he has to die. most of this is not trump its the generals call trump just oks it

Umm sorry but there is no fucking way the military makes a move like that in a situation like this with out the potus aproval.

[pimpmaster9000]

If the USA provokes a Korea wipe out it will get ostracised by the rest of the world...China Russia Asia and Europe will probably put the USA under trade embargo...the USA will end up alone...

[crockett]

Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Kill 100,000 US Americans and 10 to 20 million North Koreans get evaporated -- fair deal?

Remember who can access the nuclear football ...

Are you willing to be one of the 100k? NK is mostly rural, nuclear bombs can't really destroy much of their country..

Nuclear bombs are useful on countries like Russia or the US because of the big cities.. NK is a black hole like dropping bombs in Vietnam forests.

[BaldBastard]

Fall out from USA is less likely to affect them than fall out from NK if a push comes to a shove.

Face it..

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Trump is unstable, he's not coping very well, weekend of Football and crowd numbers gain after threatening to annihilate a country 3 days ago.

meanwhile in NK



They are getting ready, are you? Its do or die week, Trump asked for it

[Paul Markham]

NK knows it won't beat the US in a war. China will not go to war with it's biggest customer.

They are the only things stopping NK invading SK.

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by Rochard

When they refuse to listen, they get bitch smacked.

Take Saddam for example. He refused to listen to the US. He was removed from power, his party was removed from office by force, and now he's dead. Same happened to the Taliban.

Saddam was removed from power, but at what price? To be lingering in Iraq losing American lives for the rest of time and also destabilize the entire middle east in the process?

Also, the Taliban hasn't and isn't going anywhere. Ever.

North Korea should be treated like a child that's acting out. You ignore them. This situation is being compared to the Cuban missile crisis, which implies both sides can annihilate each other, which is not even close to being the case. The US could wipe N Korea off the face of the map, and that at this point they might be able to launch a flying bath tub that can reach us, and even then it would have to survive re-entry with a capable warhead intact. I don't want to downplay what they've accomplished with their stolen or gifted nuclear technology, but comparatively they are no match. I'd have more luck winning a fight against Dwayne Johnson.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Normally I would agree.

However, when some nation threatens, with intent and capability, to open hostilities with nuclear or chemical weapons (that they are proven to possess) -- you have no choice to take a hard line and level up to their annihilation if you have the means -- and be prepared to follow through.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Trump seems to be doing his best to provoke a nuclear or other attack.

Nuking North Korea is only thing left that would give Trump a hard-on.

Trump must stop his immature knee-jerk reactions. The child President would commit a war crime by starting a chain of incredible destructive events that would kill millions of people and pollute the planet.

Expert diplomats need to be brought in now more than ever, and faster than ever. Trump needs to be removed from office immediately.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Trump is right about one thing: The time for talking is over.

I would blockade the North Korean coast. Nothing goes in except vetted humanitarian goods and NOTHING goes out.

If the Russians and the Chinese do not close the borders -- we know where we stand by their actions.