Who would handle North Korea better: Donald Trump or Barrack Obama or Hillary Clinton?

[2MuchMark]

Who would handle North Korea better:

Donald Trump
Barrack Obama or
Hillary Clinton?

Let the well-crafted and thoroughly thought-out opinions by the well-mannered individuals of GFY begin!

[onwebcam]

We already know how Obama and Hillary handled North Korea. Supplying them with nuclear material.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

We already know how Obama and Hillary handled North Korea. Supplying them with nuclear material.

Shut. Up.

Trump told us he was the great negotiator. So far, to date, one year in, he has accomplished nothing. Nothing at all. He went to Asia for two weeks and what did he walk away with? Nothing. Not a damn fucking thing. He killed the Asian trade agreement, handed everything to China, got nothing in return, has destroyed our relationship with Russia, and pretty much has fucked up everything else in the process.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

We already know how Obama and Hillary handled North Korea. Supplying them with nuclear material.

Links to proof?

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Links to proof?

As you already know he does not have any proof and just likes to make shit up.

[astronaut x]

The only job Trump does on this is run his mouth. He is not diplomatic. He is a little man with big "toys." Talking tough is not the same as being tough.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Who would handle North Korea better:

Donald Trump
Barrack Obama or
Hillary Clinton?

Let the well-crafted and thoroughly thought-out opinions by the well-mannered individuals of GFY begin!

They all suck as Commander's in Chief and as statesmen.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Links to proof?

Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show | TheHill

You'd have to find out where it finally ended up but my guess is you'd be dead before you did.

Bill was probably sealing the deal on this trip which just happens to be around the same time they were sealing the Uranium One deal.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/bil...s-north-korea/

[ilnjscb]

I believe they will not stop until they can actively threaten the US. Further, their success, if they achieve it, will embolden other regimes. They will also sell the tech to terrorists to raise cash.

Right now I can only think that a war to remove the current regime and perhaps hand the country to South Korea and China will succeed in ending this threat

Donald Trump is the only one who is currently able to do this, though I'm sure Clinton might have found a solution as well.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Links to proof?

A Clinton Foundation official pushed Hillary Clinton's State Department to approve a request for Bill Clinton to speak at a North Korean industrial complex accused of funding the country's rogue nuclear program.

Clinton Foundation pushed State Dept. on Bill Clinton speech in North Korea


Clinton Foundation Takes $2 Million From Chinese Company Suspected of Helping North Korea | The Weekly Standard

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...n-Bill-Clinton

[Ronzo]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

We already know how Obama and Hillary handled North Korea. Supplying them with nuclear material.

Ditto. Thank God everyday that the crooked, smelly, lying bitch lost. And, that Barry, Mike's girlfriend, is rapidly fading into obscurity where he belongs. He made Jimmy Carter look effective. Looking forward to seeing both of them in jail in 2018.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show | TheHill

You'd have to find out where it finally ended up but my guess is you'd be dead before you did.

Bill was probably sealing the deal on this trip which just happens to be around the same time they were sealing the Uranium One deal.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/bil...s-north-korea/

What a dumb cunt. NK has NO need to buy any Uranium, they can produce all they need themselves.

You get this propaganda from Murdoch owned FOX news, a guy basically booted from Australia for his political agenda, and you suck it up like a dimwit fucking sponge.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Ditto. Thank God everyday that the crooked, smelly, lying bitch lost. And, that Barry, Mike's girlfriend, is rapidly fading into obscurity where he belongs. He made Jimmy Carter look effective. Looking forward to seeing both of them in jail in 2018.

^^^ 147 right wing racist political posts since 2007

[CoolMikey]

We already know how Obama and Clinton handled NK, they put us in a bind we are in right now. NK didn't just magically one day acquire ICBM and nuclear tech, they developed it over many years under Obama's and Clinton's watch.

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Who would handle North Korea better:

Donald Trump
Barrack Obama or
Hillary Clinton?

Let the well-crafted and thoroughly thought-out opinions by the well-mannered individuals of GFY begin!

If any country wants to build a nuclear weapon there is very little another country can do about it. NK has had their nuts squeezed by every administration and its had no effect.

If America wanted to make change, the first thing they would need to do is start changing the North Korean civilians belief that the USA wants to invade them.

Conducting numerous war games 12 miles offshore of their country, flying b52 bombers straight at it and having a president stand up and say.. we will annihilate you

.. has kind of failed achieving that.

While its nice to fantasize what another administration in the USA might of done, what is the utmost urgency is what the current administration IS doing. And NO ONE has escalated the North Korean issue more than Trump, he has moved the USA and the world closer to nuclear war more than any other president in history.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by CoolMikey

We already know how Obama and Clinton handled NK, they put us in a bind we are in right now. NK didn't just magically one day acquire ICBM and nuclear tech, they developed it over many years under Obama's and Clinton's watch.

Oh yeah Hillary Clinton (who was never president) and Obama are responsible for 25 years of failed NK policy you're a fuckwad cunt tonight

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

What a dumb cunt. NK has NO need to buy any Uranium, they can produce all they need themselves.

You get this propaganda from Murdoch owned FOX news, a guy basically booted from Australia for his political agenda, and you suck it up like a dimwit fucking sponge.

There's a HUGE difference between mining uranium and enriching uranium. NK is not enriching their own uranium...

The uranium they moved to Canada and then on to who knows where was yellow cake, weapons grade, enriched uranium.....

There's a reason why the front man from Russia on the Uranium One deal was also head of a nuclear transport company.
There's also a reason why he in jail for not only bribing public officials but also bribing other nuclear transport companies/drivers.. Because they wanted to distribute the material outside the US...

[BaldBastard]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

There's a HUGE difference between mining uranium and enriching uranium. NK is not enriching their own uranium....

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=n...ranium&ie=&oe=

pick your own result dotard lover. NK has been enriching their own uranium for years and have more than enough for their needs.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Who would handle North Korea better:

Donald Trump
Barrack Obama or
Hillary Clinton?



Let the well-crafted and thoroughly thought-out opinions by the well-mannered individuals of GFY begin!

What a great idea mark good question

[ErectMedia]

Trumptastic thread.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by CoolMikey

We already know how Obama and Clinton handled NK, they put us in a bind we are in right now. NK didn't just magically one day acquire ICBM and nuclear tech, they developed it over many years under Obama's and Clinton's watch.

I both agree and disagree at the same time. You can try to blame Obama and Hillary Clinton for this. However, our long term approach to North Korea has been the same for decades no matter who is in office. We basically have two options - do our best to ignore them and put sanctions on them, or all out war where millions of Koreans will die.

Trump promised to fix this. He made it sound like it was no problem. In the end, he is doing the same exact thing we've been doing for the past fifty years - put sanctions on them and ignore them.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by CoolMikey

We already know how Obama and Clinton handled NK, they put us in a bind we are in right now. NK didn't just magically one day acquire ICBM and nuclear tech, they developed it over many years under Obama's and Clinton's watch.

Y
Maybe not but iran is getting magical nukes

[blackmonsters]

Originally Posted by CoolMikey

We already know how Obama and Clinton handled NK, they put us in a bind we are in right now. NK didn't just magically one day acquire ICBM and nuclear tech, they developed it over many years under Obama's and Clinton's watch.

Quit making shit up.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MJnF-GdgQ

[beerptrol]

For one they wouldn't be tweeting threats and name calling like chump.

Also they'd have an experienced state department to deal with NK and China instead of the gutted one we have with positions not being filled right now and an incompetent secretary of state. Funny how you bitch about Hillary and Benghazi but turn a blind eye to what's happening now to the state department which puts many lives in danger


Having nukes pretty much means no one fucks with you or tries regime change. NK is a nuke power and now we have to live with it.

Chump is all talk and full of hot air, toss in he's a pathological liar and no country will deal with him or take his word

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

They all suck as Commander's in Chief and as statesmen.

That's debatable, but that wasn't the question.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Uranium One deal led to some exports to Europe, memos show | TheHill

Europe isn't Korea, and the US has allies in Europe.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Bill was probably sealing the deal on this trip which just happens to be around the same time they were sealing the Uranium One deal.

Bill isn't Hillary, and coincidence isn't proof.

Originally Posted by ilnjscb

Right now I can only think that a war to remove the current regime and perhaps hand the country to South Korea and China will succeed in ending this threat

I think it would be a huge, giant, massive mistake to get into anything with NK. Even a simple surgical strike would result in devastation to a huge area surrounding the region.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

A Clinton Foundation official pushed Hillary Clinton's State Department to approve a request for Bill Clinton to speak at a North Korean industrial complex accused of funding the country's rogue nuclear program.

You said "We already know how Obama and Hillary handled North Korea. Supplying them with nuclear material.". A link discussing Bill's speech doesn't prove your point.

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

If any country wants to build a nuclear weapon there is very little another country can do about it. NK has had their nuts squeezed by every administration and its had no effect.

If America wanted to make change, the first thing they would need to do is start changing the North Korean civilians belief that the USA wants to invade them.

Conducting numerous war games 12 miles offshore of their country, flying b52 bombers straight at it and having a president stand up and say.. we will annihilate you

.. has kind of failed achieving that.

While its nice to fantasize what another administration in the USA might of done, what is the utmost urgency is what the current administration IS doing. And NO ONE has escalated the North Korean issue more than Trump, he has moved the USA and the world closer to nuclear war more than any other president in history.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

What a great idea mark good question

LOL! Um.. thanks... and fuckyou.

[CarlosTheGaucho]

The very existence of North Korea is tied to its weapons. The country has an economy of a badly run third world country, therefore is very limited in any means of economical diplomacy. The existence of its own regime depends on armed forces.

I seriously doubt they would be likely to use lethal force in order to initiate an act of war, it's more like rattling the sabres in order to show strength and readiness to defend itself and make it a bloody affair in case of an invasion.

Strongly disagree with sanctions further harming the country's civil population though, these have at this point very little chance of unseating the current regime.

While the Obama administration was mainly busy to further destabilize the Middle East, their passivity towards North Korea simply reflected the fact that they had nothing to gain by getting involved. It also ensured nothing changes within North Korea itself.

When it comes to the approach from DJT, while it would be a horrible thing to provoke an armed conflict, he is known to play this Kabuki theater quite often, so let's hope and pray it can eventually bring something else than an armed conflict at the end of the day.

In any case, if the regime is to be overthrown or somewhat eased, it should come from the inside, and not from the outside. An outright armed conflict would bring terrible casualties.

Maybe Dennis Rodman would do a better job than all the politicians in the world when it comes to mediating anything.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

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Well crafted opinions are those for Hussein and Crooked.
Opinions for Donald are from the idiots.

That is libby high horse for you

[mineistaken]

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