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Old 01-09-2018, 05:23 PM   #1
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I need an idiot friendly virtual hosting account

i had a virtual hosting account for my 16 year old cousin on webair for 5 or so years, somewhere along the line he was automatically switched to some other host and he doesnt like it. need something idiot friendly so he stops bugging me.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:42 PM   #2
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So your cousin is 21, and an idiot?

Or your cousin is still a minor who has presumably been hosting porn since age 11? Sounds like real trouble, something that reasonable people should steer clear of.
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Old 01-09-2018, 05:45 PM   #3
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:01 PM   #4
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Old 01-09-2018, 06:56 PM   #5
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So your cousin is 21, and an idiot?

Or your cousin is still a minor who has presumably been hosting porn since age 11? Sounds like real trouble, something that reasonable people should steer clear of.
not porn.
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Old 01-10-2018, 05:47 AM   #6
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not porn.
That's good to hear.

So, my remaining concern is that minors need a fair amount of supervision on the internet from their parents and/or legal guardians, and that they can't really enter into legal contracts like hosting agreements.

If I were inclined to show a young person how web hosting works, I would set up a real but isolated network with some old computers, install some version of linux from physical media, and set up all the infrastructure services DNS, web and e-mail servers, etc. Provided you had a modern multicore machine to offer them you can do all that on virtualization and save a lot of space, messy wires and not have to deal with crusty old machines failing all of the time. The beauty of old machines and linux is that you could teach and learn a lot of fundamental networking, programming and system administration skills without installing an X-windows system and graphical user interface that should cause parents to worry about kids viewing porn and playing violent video games, if they managed to get the educational network connected to the real internet.

Once a young person has mastered the basics of setting up servers with sshd they are going to need a lot more supervision and encouragement to develop professional ethics. You and/or their parents are going to need to audit their systems and their firewalls, you are responsible for their actions!

As far as encouraging ethics and a network that will encourage education: Maybe get them a membership to the Association for Computer Machinery, the IEEE.org or USENIX SAGE/The System Administrators' Guild?
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:13 AM   #7
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Old 01-10-2018, 07:13 AM   #8
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That's good to hear.

So, my remaining concern is that minors need a fair amount of supervision on the internet from their parents and/or legal guardians, and that they can't really enter into legal contracts like hosting agreements.

If I were inclined to show a young person how web hosting works, I would set up a real but isolated network with some old computers, install some version of linux from physical media, and set up all the infrastructure services DNS, web and e-mail servers, etc. Provided you had a modern multicore machine to offer them you can do all that on virtualization and save a lot of space, messy wires and not have to deal with crusty old machines failing all of the time. The beauty of old machines and linux is that you could teach and learn a lot of fundamental networking, programming and system administration skills without installing an X-windows system and graphical user interface that should cause parents to worry about kids viewing porn and playing violent video games, if they managed to get the educational network connected to the real internet.

Once a young person has mastered the basics of setting up servers with sshd they are going to need a lot more supervision and encouragement to develop professional ethics. You and/or their parents are going to need to audit their systems and their firewalls, you are responsible for their actions!

As far as encouraging ethics and a network that will encourage education: Maybe get them a membership to the Association for Computer Machinery, the IEEE.org or USENIX SAGE/The System Administrators' Guild?
Are you mentally retarded?
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Old 01-10-2018, 09:22 AM   #9
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Are you mentally retarded?
I prefer the term mentally challenged, but yes. Also, my head has an unpleasant shape so I can't work retail or at McDonalds, so I need to make my beer money here, on the internet.

I believe I have given solid stay out of jail advice in this thread. Don't give internet to 11 year olds, unless you are a parent or have a signed parental authorization.

Parents need to be involved/responsible for any minor child's internet access or hosting. There are a fist full of laws about this in the U.S., including COPPA
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They will even add the new domain to your server when you register it.

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Old 01-11-2018, 11:27 AM   #11
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:52 PM   #12
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DigitalOcean is okay and has loads of tutorials... Alternatively you can install some control panel on top of it (even WHM/cPanel is easy to install on top for extra $15/month).
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:56 PM   #13
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I had my 1st dedicated server at 15...

To find a proper replacement, you need to find out why your cousin doesn't like their current company, then you can work around that. Support? Specs? Speed? Based on that, find a new company that offers better quality of those areas.
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Old 01-12-2018, 06:36 AM   #14
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We host lots of idiots. They like it here.

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Old 01-12-2018, 08:33 AM   #15
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