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The Porn Nerd · 01-26-2018, 01:46 PM

Fiddy porn legends banned.

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

The other side of things though is how much the biz has changed since the early 2000s Back then people who were 'in porn' were actually 'in porn'

They either performed on camera on set, or worked on the filming side on set or did something else that was literally in the same room and within spitting distance of people actually fucking and sucking. Those were the people, along with the fans at porn conventions.

These days with cam girls, solo performers with clipstores, and all the people who consider themselves 'in porn' but in truth are only ever as close to porn as an image on a computer screen, then yes. It's a different client base these days. I can fully understand a girl who only deals with facts and figures on a screen at a traffic brokers office going to a convention and being shocked if groped - Understandably so, but these sorts of people didn't use to attend.

This is a wise take on the current state of "the Adult Industry". In MY opinion I will add that I think there IS no "Adult Industry" anymore. Not like there used to be. Now we have mostly web-based independent companies all competing with each for traffic and ad dollars. Paysites are individual islands of ecommerce, operating mostly on their own. Cam girls live in their own little cam bubbles. Dating sites and dick pills - is that even "porn"?

The Adult landscape, like all entertainment in the 21st century, is scattered far and wide and mostly niche-oriented.

astronaut x · 01-26-2018, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

This is one of the few industries where we discard our legends like trash, and the media wonders why they turn into ornaments. Idiots are trying to make porn so mainstream. Laugh. Fucking idiots.

Wow. So you are down with the rapists. Good to know.

Lots of industries discard legends. Especially when they are rapists and commit sexual assault.

Nothing but stupidity throughout your entire post.

astronaut x · 01-26-2018, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JuicyBunny

As usual....no.

Dave Chappelle Makes Fun Of Louis C.K. Accuser In New Netflix Special | Deadline

?@DaveChappelle 1st U defend Cosby. Now Louis CK?,? wrote Love-Over-Hate. ?I get it when controversial is your angle. But this is abt victims, & their pain, trauma etc. Your lack of understanding in tht realm is the obvious problem women have to deal with men like the 1 your defending. Shame.?

So a woman is talking to Louis C.K. on the phone and he tells her he's masturbating.

"Bitch, you don?t know how to hang up the phone? How the hell are you going to survive in show business if this is an actual obstacle to your dreams? I know Louis is wrong, I?m just saying, I?m held to a higher standard of accountability than these women are.?,

If women at shows don't want RJ groping and grabbing them. Don't go up to him. Be polite, say hello, keep your distance, smile and wave. If a woman has the balls make a joke, like "Not too close, Ron. You know how you get."

Instead some of these women, like the dipshit referenced in the chapelle article cry snowflake, fall on the ground and cry foul while looking at a lawsuit option.

People, women too, should grow up and grow a pair. Instead the US and now the porn biz is filled with lame ass pussies.

Porn legends draw fans. Doesn't mean women have to be victimized if they take matters into their own hands rather than let Ron take them into his. Understand now? FFS.

You don't get it.

astronaut x · 01-26-2018, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

In my opinion, this is a bit of a hard one - pun intended.

Back in the early 2000s I spent a lot of time with Ron in and around porn conventions, and yes, he was gropey... But at the same time, it was at porn conventions, with porn people and he was Ron Jeremy...

If he were walking down the street doing it, or wandering around a restaurant while waiting for his order, then sure - Out of order 100% But he wasn't... He was at PORN conventions...

One thing I would say in his defence is that although he was gropey, if anyone said 'No' he respected that immediately and would apologise. However very few people ever seemed to mind or say anything.

OK, this was like 18 / 15 years ago, and yes times have changed, but I think its daft to make an example out of him for it. I'd like to know if anyone had from AVN had told him to stop doing it, or said anything to him previously? Or just not said a word but then banned him?

Everyone keeps mentioning the "groping" but nothing about the "raping"

katja_AWNews · 01-26-2018, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

43 minutes?? Her perspective is larger than her breasts ...

She likes to hear herself talk.

MsCheyenne · 01-26-2018, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x

Everyone keeps mentioning the "groping" but nothing about the "raping"

I mentioned the rape allegation. Do I get a gold star or something? On a very serious level, thinking it is okay to touch a porn star's boobies at AVN should be punishable by telling him to knock it off. If the behavior persisted, I can see showing him the door. Does anyone know if there was a warning?

If there was an actual rape, no one should have any sympathy for the guy. Being rejected from AVN is quite mild on the list of bad things that should happen to an actual rapist. Imagine being an adult industry worker and, being raped. The odds of discrimination are quite high. My heart goes out to any woman in that circumstance. I've been there myself and, it is a brutal thing to carry around.

However, that is a big accusation to be throwing around with no proof to back it up. I've never met the man. I've been on quite a few sets and, have never heard anything like that discussed. The few times I've heard him discussed, by ladies who have worked with him, it was fondly. This to say, no one should jump to conclusions with nothing more than a rumor.

astronaut x · 01-26-2018, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

Theres a lot of truth in this, I dont know the back story but I do know I have never had a problem with Ron nor have ANY of the many girls I have brought to industry functions, he has always asked before touching them....But all of that aside Duke is on point here, pretty much nobody in the biz these days has any sense of history of the biz, its like every girl and every so called director thinks the biz started when they came in....Truth is Ron was doing positive things for this industry when the best part of Theo Sapoutzis was running down his mommys leg. Did anyone sit down with Ron and say this is what is acceptable and this is what isnt or did AVN just appoint themselves judge jury and executioner?

I am not gonna convict Ron on heresay

The really interesting thing is that this biz wasnt always the cesspool of scumbags that it is now, its like we somehow lived up to mainstreams expectations of us.

Guys like Ron Sullivan, Bruce Seven, Lasse Braun ( talk about a scumbag kid...he is WAY worse to females than Ron ever was) Gregory Dark, Cecil Howard, Gerry Damiano ... wonder what they would think...

Multiple accusations of rape. Multiple.

I have always had the utmost respect for you Mike. But, you are supposed to be in the know on stuff like this. You say you don't know the back story, but here is an article that features comments from Ginger Lynn saying she was raped by RJ. The article says Lynn claims similar incidents have been occurring for years in the business.

Lynn says..."And he does it to new girls."

"“Ron is a rapist and he’s hiding behind the adult film industry and he’s getting away with it.” Lynn also said.

With that being said, lets gets back to the you don't know the story about Ron. This article not only has a mike south banner next to it, but scroll down the page, and there is a picture of a guy there you might recognize. I'm not saying because of this you know all. But to be in the industry, and claim to have the scoop on so much but not know the backstory, you have got to be kidding me right?

Ginger Lynn–I was raped by Ron Jeremy – #1 Adult Industry News Source

Legends do some bad shit people. OJ, Cosby. You can't tell me woman were not afraid to come forward. This is the porn industry, and very little concern will be shown to "sluts and whores" in the industry, let alone in the mainstream where people have shown even less.

I am beginning to question your journalistic integrity in this industry. What was it, a week ago you downplayed the Stormy Daniels / Trump story saying it wasn't true, when a day or so later the In Touch interview came out where she admitted it was true. It's not like the story was even new because it made somewhat of a blip on the news just over 10 years ago.

But this RJ stuff... This is how people get away with this shit for so long.

The Porn Nerd · 01-26-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x

Multiple accusations of rape. Multiple.

I have always had the utmost respect for you Mike. But, you are supposed to be in the know on stuff like this. You say you don't know the back story, but here is an article that features comments from Ginger Lynn saying she was raped by RJ. The article says Lynn claims similar incidents have been occurring for years in the business.

Lynn says..."And he does it to new girls."

"?Ron is a rapist and he?s hiding behind the adult film industry and he?s getting away with it.? Lynn also said.

With that being said, lets gets back to the you don't know the story about Ron. This article not only has a mike south banner next to it, but scroll down the page, and there is a picture of a guy there you might recognize.

Ginger Lynn?I was raped by Ron Jeremy ? #1 Adult Industry News Source

Legends do some bad shit people. OJ, Cosby. You can't tell me woman were not afraid to come forward. This is the porn industry, and very little concern will be shown to "sluts and whores" in the industry, let alone in the mainstream where people have shown even less.

I am beginning to question your journalistic integrity in this industry. What was it, a week ago you downplayed the Stormy Daniels / Trump story saying it wasn't true, when a day or so later the In Touch interview came out where she admitted it was true. It's not like the story was even new because it made somewhat of a blip on the news just over 10 years ago.

But this RJ stuff... This is how people get away with this shit for so long.

But let's not forget the under lying truth of this Industry: it is a magnet for the psychologically and chemically dependent. Male and female performers are doing porn for vastly different reasons.

astronaut x · 01-26-2018, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne

I mentioned the rape allegation. Do I get a gold star or something? On a very serious level, thinking it is okay to touch a porn star's boobies at AVN should be punishable by telling him to knock it off. If the behavior persisted, I can see showing him the door. Does anyone know if there was a warning?

If there was an actual rape, no one should have any sympathy for the guy. Being rejected from AVN is quite mild on the list of bad things that should happen to an actual rapist. Imagine being an adult industry worker and, being raped. The odds of discrimination are quite high. My heart goes out to any woman in that circumstance. I've been there myself and, it is a brutal thing to carry around.

However, that is a big accusation to be throwing around with no proof to back it up. I've never met the man. I've been on quite a few sets and, have never heard anything like that discussed. The few times I've heard him discussed, by ladies who have worked with him, it was fondly. This to say, no one should jump to conclusions with nothing more than a rumor.

What the fuck are you talking about? You come on here acting all smug like you are some intelligent woman of the industry, when you don't know shit about the conversation being had here.

Multiple accusations. Multiple women. And I am just talking about the rape allegations.

If someone has told you they had fond memories of RJ, clearly they weren't one of the ladies who claim they were raped.

Get the fuck out of here with your fucking "rumor" bullshit. The accusations have been public. I have seen some of the fucked up shit this guy has pulled, but I am not going to go into detail about it in respect to the woman who is now happily married and probably does not want to drag her husband or his child into it.

You mentioned you never heard about any of this. Clearly.

astronaut x · 01-26-2018, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

But let's not forget the under lying truth of this Industry: it is a magnet for the psychologically and chemically dependent. Male and female performers are doing porn for vastly different reasons.

Did you have a point?

The Porn Nerd · 01-26-2018, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x

Did you have a point?

Yes: that there are predators in this industry who prey on vulnerable girls who are often too afraid, drug dependent or psychologically damaged to protest. It's disgusting and it's NOT ok in any way. But the attitude persists that if a girl is doing porn then she is "asking for it". Male talent often looks like they are assaulting the female performer in videos more than just fucking her.

I am agreeing with your views here. Just because it is sex work does NOT mean sexual assault of any kind is ok. Respect for a woman's body should be the norm. Professionalism should always be the norm 100% of the time. Groping, touching, acting like a woman is a "thing" is never ok.

MsCheyenne · 01-26-2018, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x

What the fuck are you talking about? You come on here acting all smug like you are some intelligent woman of the industry, when you don't know shit about the conversation being had here.

Multiple accusations. Multiple women. And I am just talking about the rape allegations.

If someone has told you they had fond memories of RJ, clearly they weren't one of the ladies who claim they were raped.

Get the fuck out of here with your fucking "rumor" bullshit. The accusations have been public. I have seen some of the fucked up shit this guy has pulled, but I am not going to go into detail about it in respect to the woman who is now happily married and probably does not want to drag her husband or his child into it.

You mentioned you never heard about any of this. Clearly.

First of all, I am not being smug. You've seriously misread that. I even shared that I was raped and, how emotionally brutal it was not to be taken seriously because of my occupation. I don't wish that on anyone. It is an incredibly difficult thing to carry around. 17 years later and, I still have nightmares. My point is that there is a huge difference between grabbing a woman's boobies for an AVN photo and, literally raping a woman. I was quite clear in my previous post that if he was actually raping women, being shunned from AVN is an incredibly mild punishment. I also said that before jumping to conclusions, there should be proof. Perhaps, you should reread my posts before using such harsh language. Emotions are running high here so, I understand if you misunderstood.

Grapesoda · 01-26-2018, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MsCheyenne

If the rape allegations are true, then he should be shunned. If it is just groping at an adult event, come on, we are all grown ups in the adult business. I've been running the camera on my own set, and have male talent grab my fanny. It is easy enough to tell someone to knock it off and, go on about the day. It doesn't mean you have to like the person or be in close proximity with them again. But banning them from and adult industry event? That is a little much. Maybe making him wear a sign that reads, "I grope. Stand Next to Me." would have sufficed. In fact, it would have been funny.

yeah makes sense. it's the 'you fuck me' and I'll get you a few scenes that I wonder about

Grapesoda · 01-26-2018, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

The other side of things though is how much the biz has changed since the early 2000s Back then people who were 'in porn' were actually 'in porn'

They either performed on camera on set, or worked on the filming side on set or did something else that was literally in the same room and within spitting distance of people actually fucking and sucking. Those were the people, along with the fans at porn conventions.

These days with cam girls, solo performers with clipstores, and all the people who consider themselves 'in porn' but in truth are only ever as close to porn as an image on a computer screen, then yes. It's a different client base these days. I can fully understand a girl who only deals with facts and figures on a screen at a traffic brokers office going to a convention and being shocked if groped - Understandably so, but these sorts of people didn't use to attend.

great insight here B.

badgirlfilms · 01-26-2018, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

i saw a tape of ron jeremy doing a whole lot worse than grope women...instant prison shit...it is amazing i seem to be the only one in the know about it...the footage in question was shot some 20-25 years ago...

wtf was it

marcop · 01-26-2018, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

I disagree.

I know Ron, great guy, great memory. One time during Internext I got into an elevator with one of our models and much to our surprise Ron walked in behind us. He took one look at the model and said "great hooters" and just grabbed them. I'm all about having fun and all of that, but you cannot just go around grabbing women's breasts in public.

I've seen similar behavior by him too. And yes, Ron is a fun guy but perhaps not if it's you he's grabbing.

Bladewire · 01-26-2018, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

43 minutes?? Her perspective is larger than her breasts ...

She's got big knockers and a great noggin 👍😍

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