Rochard

Read the memo here: http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/doc...gop-memo/2746/

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...and it's another nothing burger

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Rochard

Jesus Fucking Christ. I just skimmed it because I have a conference call in ten minutes and I need to get ready but... This four page memo is just basically that the DNC funded the opposition research, and this was used to get a FISA warrant? This is old news.

You must be kidding me. This is all they have?

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No..no according to Ass Pimple and the other deranged nutters everything blows up with the memo and Trump is justified as the subprime emperor. Hillary goes to jail, Muller's citizenship gets revoked and all the little Nazis dance under the magic rainbow...

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GAMEFINEST

This gets dumber by the minute

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Most bored memo i've ever seen.

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I wouldn't say it's nothing, but without any true proof it doesn't really do much, but points 2 and 3 are not ''nothing'' Especially 3, where the FBI has tapes of Steele saying he was desperate to not have Trump elected and omit that information on the warrant? That is pretty shady

crockett

In before....

"This isn't the full memo they had to edit the real bad stuff out for national securty, but trust us Hillary is the devil and Obama is Muslim!"

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I'm not seeing any of the "damage to national security" that the FBI claimed was in the memo. The only damage is to the FBI's reputation.





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crockett

The key point that was omitted purposely, is Manafort was already bei g wiretapped for 3 years prior to him having any involvement in Trump's campaign. The for a warrant was just a continuous surveillance which had already been underway for some time.

Nunes and Trump are trying to purposely mislead the public with this memo as a way to make it appear the FBI was after Trump.. Facts dont mean much to weasels and liars..

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Acepimp

SO Christopher Steele was making shit up in the dossier, then leaking the false info to Yahoo News?? And you clowns think the fake dossier is gospel??

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Of course, if you choose to not inform yourself thats what you'd think...

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Bladewire

So Steele, the guy paid by the GOP ( fusion GPS ) to get opposition research dirt on Trump, learns what a slime ball Trump is via his investigative work and is desperate not to have Trump elected. Makes sense.

Christopher Steele is an ex-Cambridge Union president, ex-M.I.6 Moscow field agent, ex-head of M.I.6?s Russia desk and an ex-adviser to British Special Forces on capture-or-kill ops in Afghanistan. It's not like Steele us some shady private investigator picked out of the Yellow Pages and paid to make up lies about someone to get them in trouble.

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I don't really understand your point. What does Manafort have to do with them using Steele information to get a tap on Carter Page. The fact that they used a clearly biased source of information to spy on Page and not declare that despite having it recorded is shady. You can't deny that.

Matt-ADX

I am not disagreeing that he can be anti Trump. But you are sending information to get a warrant to spy on an American citizen and you omit the fact that your source said he would do anything to make sure Trump doesn't get elected? If I was a judge singing off on that I think that would be information I would want to know.

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why whould anybody care?

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Also how come no one is talking about how Hillary colluded with Russian in an attempt to win the Election. It's pretty clear and out in the open. Steele was for sure getting information on Trump from people in the Russian government. What am I missing here?

Acepimp

^^ THIS. Colluding with Russians to buy FALSE INFO for a fake dossier to INFLUENCE THE ELECTION, in violation of campaign finance laws. Rochard, isn't this STUNNING??

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crockett

I said Manafort, I meant Page.. sorry all of Trump's traitors are hard to keep up with....

Page had been under survalance for 3 years prior. The warrant was just a continuous renewal.. Trump/Nunes are trying to play it off like it was a new thing by purposely omitting the fact that Page was already under survalance..

Hence the reason the FBI and democrats called them out on their bullshit.. The only people fooled by this nonsense is people who "want" to be fooled.. Its akready publicly known page was under survalance long before he joined Trump's team..

But don't let facts get in your way..

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Public evidence at hand suggests that arguments that the FBI’s warrant application — which was found to be robust enough to be renewed by Trump appointee Rod J. Rosenstein in the spring — was based solely or primarily on politically motivated research from Steele aren’t backed up by what’s already publicly known.

Three years before Page became an adviser to the Trump campaign, he came to the attention of FBI counterintelligence agents, who learned that Russian spy suspects had sought to use Page as a source for information, he was being watched since then.

All this memo is about is the renewal of that application, yet as we also know.. There’s no indication or proof that Steele knew who the client was for whom he was indirectly working for.

Trumps fucked.

Acepimp

House Intel memo key point: The FBI's Andrew McCabe confirmed to the committee that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information. --> Without the dossier, there would've been no FISA warrant. Was admitted under oath by McCabe. DOJ/FBI already knew dossier's source was unreliable & shouldn't be used, but filed application with it anyways. Waited until after to fire Steele. Then applied for extensions on warrant anyways.

^^ Read it Carefully, clueless libs- These are crimes

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So now you are making about Hillary...

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Matt-ADX

But he wasn't being wire tapped for 3 years. They used the Dossier to get the tap. Was he on the FBI's radar yes. There doesn't seem to be a bombshell here, but just like how people said there was ''Smoke'' around Trump and Russia, well clearly there is some ''Smoke'' around FBI and Dem collusion IMO

TampaToker

If i was Mcabe i would be in fear for my life right now. I can see a future headline "McCabe commits suicide"

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Yep, the old Deflect by bringing up Hillary. The memo was full of nothing......

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Rochard

I am not seeing any damage to national security either, although I guess one could argue the more we know about FISA warrants and the requirements to get them might be damaging.

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Matt-ADX

I am making what? I am not making anything about Hillary, you can look at it more as me asking a question, not related to the memo if you like. It's an honest question. The Dem's appear to have colluded with Russia and the evidence is clear, why is this not being talked about?

Rochard

Yes, let's talk about Hillary again. Let's talk about Benghazi and emails, and what's that you say? She colluded with the Russians too? LOL. We should have another investigation.

Why does the Republican party constantly go back to Hillary? The hatred the Republican party has for her is vile. The Republican party has made her out to be this master criminal mastermind, but yet investigation after investigation have provided us with nothing at all.

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crockett

We see the same shift and blame tactic here everyday.. Hillary has nothing at all to do with this topic, let's talk about Trump and Republicans purposely misleading the American public and trying to trash the FBI and Justice dept, for a bit of political gain...

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Rochard

Nunes shouldn't be involved in any of this. It's bad enough Nunes was involved in the Trump transition team, but his actions have proven to be biased.

The facts aren't important. Not only does this "memo" fail to mention Page, it also fails to mention the dossier was originally funded by Republicans.

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Funny watching chat across the internet if the roles were reversed the Democrats would be raising holy hell like the Republicans are and they would be totally justified about there rage

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So the DNC paid to have the dossier about Trump-Russia collusion manufactured, so they could use FISA surveillance (normally reserved only for known terrorists for sake of national security) to spy on the Trump campaign, in hopes of finding some kind of REAL dirt on Trump, in order for it to be leaked to the media and destroy his campaign?

Yeah, so what? Big deal. Now if they'd put as much effort into impeaching Trump for colluding with Russia to steal the election from Hillary, then Hillary would be sitting in the White House right now. When is THAT going to happen?

Vote Hillary 2020, 4 more years!!

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Put Hillary aside, she wouldn't have been alone in doing this it would be the DNC as a whole no? I am not shifting blame or trying to deflect anything I am asking a legit question, it seems that the dirt is on both sides but yet no one talks about it. As of today, there is concrete evidence that the DNC colluded with Russians in an attempt to win the election but we ignore that because they didn't win? I am legit asking, I have no horse in this race.

crockett

Perhaps educate yourself..


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump?Russia_dossier


The dossier and the investigations preceding it were part of opposition research on Trump. The investigation into Trump was initially funded by a conservative political website before Steele was involved, and later was funded by Democrats.


The dossier was originally funded by consertive website freebeacon.com it was later taken by the DNC

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crockett

Actually, it's funny watching you guys claim the dossier is fake because it had ties to Hillary.. Meanwhile this memo is believable despite being written by a guy who was on Trump's team and many midnight runs to the WH to leak info to Trump..

This memo was likely written by Trump's lawyers...

In short if it's pro your guy it doesn't matter there are conflicts of interest, but anti your guy conflicts are bad mummkay..

Not to mention Nunes claimed to recuse himself from the investigation due to his "conflicts of interest" but still involves himself and releases a memo..

Imagine the rage if Obama had done that with Benghazi..

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Acepimp

NOT SO FAST => Evidence Suggests Obama Admin Spied on Candidate Trump and Campaign LONG BEFORE FISA Request was Presented to FISA Court

DUDE SHE IS AT THE CENTER OF THIS. You choose to ignore her scandals.


WRONG! You also ignore her crimes, and believe the dumbest shit from people like Nancy Pelosi. Good god dude- get some help

FACT: The memo proves the Russia collusion investigation is based on lies that were paid for by the DNC, colluding with Russians, in an attempt to INFLUENCE THE ELECTION.

SO, have you guys accepted the election results yet? It wasn't the Russians, she just lost- BIGLY!

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Rochard

No.

Republicans paid for opposition research on Trump. Opposition research is is routine in political elections. Once Trump became the Republican nominee, the DNC picked up the tab.

This is opposition research. There is nothing wrong with this. There is nothing illegal with opposition research. As is plainly the case here, both sides do this. This is routine.

This memo is trying to make it out like the DNC hired Steele and GPS Fusion to make Trump look bad. This is false. The Republicans originally hired Steele and GPS Fusion.

This opposition research / dossier was only a part of the investigation that lead to FISA warrants.

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Matt-ADX

So the republicans hired Steele and Fusion GPS? Got a link to that, would like to read more

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TampaToker

Wrong the Republicans hired GPS fusion!

"After Mr. Trump secured the nomination, Fusion GPS was hired on behalf of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. by their law firm, Perkins Coie, to compile research about Mr. Trump, his businesses and associates — including possible connections with Russia. It was at that point that Fusion GPS hired Mr. Steele, who has deep sourcing in Russia, to gather information."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/25/u...-expained.html

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Acepimp

Hey Rochard:


The Republicans had the early version of the dossier BEFORE THE PRIMARY. After Trump beat them they gave up & had nothing to do with it after that.

The Democrats added a lot more fraudulent info. Knowing the info was false, they took it to the FISA court judge & got a warrant. THAT'S A CRIME

Facts are important, Rochard. Not sure why you keep covering up for these criminals.

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Oh LOOK I was right all along

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From your very own link:

During the Republican primaries, a research firm called Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, to unearth potentially damaging information about Mr. Trump. The Free Beacon ? which was funded by a major donor supporting Mr. Trump?s rival for the party?s nomination, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida ? told Fusion GPS to stop doing research on Mr. Trump in May 2016, as Mr. Trump was clinching the Republican nomination.

Thee Free Beacon was funded by the same people who funded Senator Marco Rubio.

This is not open to discussion or debate. This is a fact. This was opposition research funded by Marco Rubio. You can beat your chest as much as you want, but no matter how you look at it this opposition research started with the Republicans.

The irony here is that Republican opposition research funded by Marco Rubio was picked up by the Republican led FBI and turned into a massive investigation that is threatening to take down the Republican president.

But let's talk about what's important - How Hillary Clinton colluded with the Russians.

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Matt-ADX

Thank you sir

TampaToker

So let me get this straight you stand by this part of your post? "The Republicans originally hired Steele and GPS Fusion"

Yes Republicans hired GPS but if you read what i posted i said GPS was hired by Republicans and if you read the link again it also says Steel was hired AFTER Clinton’s campaign hired GPS.

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Rochard

Not. Caring.

The Republicans started the original opposition research with GPS Fusion. Who they hired to do it is completely and utterly irrelevant.

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Acepimp

^^ Blatant disregard for the facts! I already explained the Repubs involvement was BEFORE the primary. The DEMOCRATS spend $12 adding bogus info to it, Rochard. Hillary & Podesta are in deep shit!! Unbiased facts!

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TampaToker

Well if you gonna post shit make sure its accurate then. What you posted was half true and half wrong.All you had to say was yea you were right what i posted was partial wrong. Would of that been that hard? Funny part was i actually agreed with you that the Republicans originally hired GPS

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Nunes and Trump are playing a very dangerous game. Acepimp if you love the US so much, maybe you should stop being so lazy and defaulting to your very discredited beliefs and sources.

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