The media is reporting that the Donald's base has finally been shaken.

[Steve Rupe]

They apparently did not like his signing of the Ominbus Bill. He claimed that he signed the bill because the military needs the money and needs it now. This is true as we are locked and loaded to engage NK. I doubt that any concessions on NK's part can prevent us from now taking him out especially with Bolton coming on board.

[TampaToker]

Army Core Of Engineers just made out big

[kane]

I had to laugh at Ann Coulter's tweets today. She said, "Congratulations President Schumer."

And

"I will never sign another bill like this again."
Yeah, because you'll be impeached.

The quote is what Trump said as he signed the bill.

[Bladewire]

This is what happens when you send a beta to do an Alphas job

[BaldBastard]

3???????-6K??????????????_????_???

China doesn't like it.

[beerptrol]

I think the last time they were shaken, was when they were babies!

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

I think the last time they were shaken, was when they were babies!

[CarlosTheGaucho]

And rightfully so, this is exactly the opposite of what he won on.

Three main issues that could have been the deal breakers, build a wall and get the immigration under control, reenergize the economy, cut the worthless spending and don't enter any foreign wars.

With this bill there's no funding for the wall nor a comprehensive immigration reform, as for economy, well the markets run wild but to see the effect on the actual middle class, too early to see that.

But the most disturbing part is increasing the armed forces budget, while it's been a proven way to send some government money to local contractors, one has to ask what's been cooked behind the scenes. How was this so important that a bill like this could ever be accepted, and what's the trade off.

All and all, with signing this, he might have just lost the 2020.

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is what happens when you send a beta to do an Alphas job

lol just like that kid leading the anti gun march

[Bladewire]

^^^ beta

[crockett]

Originally Posted by kane

I had to laugh at Ann Coulter's tweets today. She said, "Congratulations President Schumer."

And

"I will never sign another bill like this again."
Yeah, because you'll be impeached.

The quote is what Trump said as he signed the bill.

[crockett]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

I think the last time they were shaken, was when they were babies!

[crockett]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

And rightfully so, this is exactly the opposite of what he won on.

Three main issues that could have been the deal breakers, build a wall and get the immigration under control, reenergize the economy, cut the worthless spending and don't enter any foreign wars.

With this bill there's no funding for the wall nor a comprehensive immigration reform, as for economy, well the markets run wild but to see the effect on the actual middle class, too early to see that.

But the most disturbing part is increasing the armed forces budget, while it's been a proven way to send some government money to local contractors, one has to ask what's been cooked behind the scenes. How was this so important that a bill like this could ever be accepted, and what's the trade off.

All and all, with signing this, he might have just lost the 2020.

They even snuck in a bill to fuck over professional baseball players. It will allow the MLB to pay unsigned players as seasonal worker's..

That was obviously something Congress needed to write a law about.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by kane

I had to laugh at Ann Coulter's tweets today. She said, "Congratulations President Schumer."

And

"I will never sign another bill like this again."
Yeah, because you'll be impeached.

The quote is what Trump said as he signed the bill.

Saw that too. I'm not a fan of Coulter but she has a way of hitting a nail on its head.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Saw that too. I'm not a fan of Coulter but she has a way of hitting a nail on its head.

LOL! There's exactly zero chance of impeachment. Ann Coulter is usually smarter than this. She should know that anything in the spending bill is merely a suggestion, and Potus can choose to send the money for each item, or not. Like Obama did for 8 years, and Congress didn't do shit about it, because they couldn't.

Why do you guys think the top Dems voted against it?

Ann Coulter was just mad about not funding the wall. Potus announced today that the huge military budget will go toward border security- the wall.

[bronco67]

You can't shake what has no brain cells.

[cspdinc]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

And rightfully so, this is exactly the opposite of what he won on.

Three main issues that could have been the deal breakers, build a wall and get the immigration under control, reenergize the economy, cut the worthless spending and don't enter any foreign wars.

With this bill there's no funding for the wall nor a comprehensive immigration reform, as for economy, well the markets run wild but to see the effect on the actual middle class, too early to see that.

But the most disturbing part is increasing the armed forces budget, while it's been a proven way to send some government money to local contractors, one has to ask what's been cooked behind the scenes. How was this so important that a bill like this could ever be accepted, and what's the trade off.

All and all, with signing this, he might have just lost the 2020.

fucking hell, funding is being done through the military budget like it should be for the wall.. trump played you all. you dumb fucks.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by cspdinc

fucking hell, funding is being done through the military budget like it should be for the wall.. trump played you all. you dumb fucks.

These morons think Trump's going to fund a bunch of nonsense. lol 100% of the funding is now his to do as he chooses. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings...ent-senate-21/

[beerptrol]

Originally Posted by cspdinc

fucking hell, funding is being done through the military budget like it should be for the wall.. trump played you all. you dumb fucks.

So Joe Marine won't get that upgraded equipment he needs because the wall is more important

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

So Joe Marine won't get that upgraded equipment he needs because the wall is more important

He won't be taking money from the military just pet projects such as Planned Parenthood.

[beerptrol]

So funny how you trolls try to spin it to try and make Chump out as this smart guy who's making these sneaky moves.
Fact is he got played when he signed the bill. Dipshit was more concerned with leaving town to golf than to find out what was in the bill!

He's a fucking moron who can't negotiate jack shit, Now is willing to use military money to try and save face

[Rochard]

The Republican party has failed and will never be forgiven. They elected someone with absolutely zero experience in anything. This is an unmitigated disaster the likes of which our country has never seen. We have a leader with zero goals and no direction who tends to accept the advice of the last person he spoke to.

This is just insane.

[kane]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

So funny how you trolls try to spin it to try and make Chump out as this smart guy who's making these sneaky moves.
Fact is he got played when he signed the bill. Dipshit was more concerned with leaving town to golf than to find out what was in the bill!

He's a fucking moron

I think he is planning on invading either North Korea or Iran (maybe both) because he has said we desperately need the military money and that is why he is signing the bill.

We would only desperately need that money for the military if he planned to use them.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

He won't be taking money from the military just pet projects such as Planned Parenthood.

The $1.3 trillion budget Trump just signed gave $500,000,000 to Planned Parenthood.

You literally just repeat everything that you're told without researching that's a big part of your problem with credibility.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

So funny how you trolls try to spin it to try and make Chump out as this smart guy who's making these sneaky moves.
Fact is he got played when he signed the bill. Dipshit was more concerned with leaving town to golf than to find out what was in the bill!

He's a fucking moron who can't negotiate jack shit, Now is willing to use military money to try and save face

Except that we're right. The omnibus bill is just a set of guidelines. He doesn't have to give 500 million to PP. He doesn't have to give Chucky Schumer money for a tunnel in New York. It's all at Trump's discretion. Why do you think E Warren and D Feinstein voted against it??

The liberal loons just got played (again)

Originally Posted by Rochard

The Republican party has failed and will never be forgiven. They elected someone with absolutely zero experience in anything. This is an unmitigated disaster the likes of which our country has never seen. We have a leader with zero goals and no direction who tends to accept the advice of the last person he spoke to.

This is just insane.

LOL! Rochard you crack me up dude

Where do you get this stuff, the late night comedy shows?? You know that's fake news, right?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The $1.3 trillion budget Trump just signed gave $500,000,000 to Planned Parenthood.

You literally just repeat everything that you're told without researching that's a big part of your problem with credibility.

You don't listen at all do you? THE ENTIRE BUDGET IS HIS TO DO WITH AS HE PLEASES.

Congress didn't pass a budget.. They passed an Omnibus bill which only suggests how money is spent. That alone gives Trump full control over the money but in addition he invoked a 1985 law which just reinforces it. He could direct the ENTIRE 1.3 Trillion to military and the wall if he wanted and Congress can't do shit about it because they neglected to do their job......

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The $1.3 trillion budget Trump just signed gave $500,000,000 to Planned Parenthood.

You literally just repeat everything that you're told without researching that's a big part of your problem with credibility.

Bladewire, it's not a budget. It's a spending bill and it's all at Trump's discretion. Read the fine print

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

You don;t listen at all do you? THE ENTIRE BUDGET IS HIS TO DO WITH AS HE PLEASES.

You just said Trump will be taking money from Planned Parenthood which is a lie he gave Planned Parenthood Millions you fucking moron.

It's so funny watching you squirm when you're backed into a corner with facts you lash out and divert like a little pussy bitch

Your president gave Millions to kill babies woohoo!!

You support a baby killer!

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You just said Trump will be taking money from Planned Parenthood which is a lie he gave Planned Parenthood Millions you fucking moron.

It's so funny watching you squirm when you're backed into a corner with facts you lash out and divert like a little pussy bitch

Your president gave Millions to kill babies woohoo!!

You really are slow. The dems requested the money for PP. That doesn't mean he will give it to them.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

You really are slow. The dems requested the money for PP. That doesn't mean he will give it to them.

I know English is your second language so I'll talk real slow... The budget is written it's set in stone the money is going to Planned Parenthood and you can't do anything about it.

Trump loves Planned Parenthood I'm sure they've done him a service more than once in his past.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

I know English is your second language so I'll talk real slow... The budget is written it's set in stone the money is going to Planned Parenthood and you can't do anything about it.

Trump loves Planned Parenthood I'm sure they've done him a service more than once in his past.

IT'S NOT A BUDGET. It's a Omnibus bill. This is how Obama got away with redirecting funds from other areas to fund Obamacare without Congress approval. Trump is using their own dirty tricks against them.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

IT'S NOT A BUDGET. It's a Omnibus bill. This is how Obama got away with redirecting funds from other areas to fund Obamacare without Congress approval. Trump is using their own dirty tricks against them.

You are in such denial.

"He signed it and agreed to it but he doesn't intend on keeping to his agreement"

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You are in such denial.

"He signed it and agreed to it but he doesn't intend on keeping to his agreement"

He signed it knowing what the rules are.. He didn't make the rules. He's just using them to his advantage. Just like Obama did.

[Acepimp]

BW won't accept that it's NOT a budget that's set in stone.

Sorry buddy, it's the same shit Obama did for 8 years, and Congress didn't do anything about it because they couldn't. It's all at the discretion of the potus.

Will you EVER accept the truth?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

He signed it knowing what the rules are.. He didn't make the rules. He's just using them to his advantage. Just like Obama did.

You always talk about Obama when you bring up the badshit Trump does typical Russian tactics.

[Steve Rupe]

To educate the uneducated about an Omnibus Bill. The Donald, like all Presidents that have ever signed an Omnibus Bill has "very" limited discretion about appropriating the moneys involved for any other purpose than intended. So limited that it is really not significant enough to discuss.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

To educate the uneducated about an Omnibus Bill. The Donald, like all Presidents that have ever signed an Omnibus Bill has "very" limited discretion about appropriating the moneys involved for any other purpose than intended. So limited that it is really not significant enough to discuss.

"Which the president determines..."

Let's discuss how Steve Dupe always has info that's not accurate

The wall just got full funding and the dems don't even realize it yet

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

"Which the president determines..."

Let's discuss how Steve Dupe always has info that's not accurate

The wall just got full funding and the dems don't even realize it yet

What an amazingly stupid person you are. Just background noise with zero credibility.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

What an amazingly stupid person you are. Just background noise with zero credibility.

Except that you're wrong (like usual)


Let's talk about what the President can and can't do for this Omnibus Bill. There's a lot of discussion both ways so let's examine how money gets allocated & spent in the US Government:

1. Congress allocates money to be spent. The President spends the allocated money.

2. Once Congress allocates money, their job is oversight of the money being spent. They don't spend the money and have no say HOW it gets spent as long as it's spent legally. That's their job to monitor with oversight.

3. Once the President is given the money with the instructions to spend it, he has a number of choices to make in spending it. There are some rules he has to follow & some of the money is fungible and some isn't.

4. However there are some other factors that are in play here. One of them is that the President has declared a Human Rights Emergency AND has notified Congress that he's invoking the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.

5. This opens up new options.

6. By making these two declarations President Trump has just communicated that he has the authority to NOT spend any funds he doesn't deem necessary and will return them to the US Treasury. So, funds for Planned Parenthood? He can simply not allocate the funds.

7. Also, these declarations make some funds fungible. For instance if he determines that building a Wall on the Southern Border is a defense against Human Trafficking? He can move funds from anywhere else in the Defense Dept Allocation & simply build the Wall.

8. Congress is powerless to stop cash reallocations on an omnibus bill AND cannot stop the DOD from taking measures under a declared Emergency. 9. Despite their language in the Omnibus Bill about the Border Wall, it is trumped by the State of Emergency that Trump declared.

8) So in summary - This will go to the Courts. Congress will sue the President over the Border Wall. But here's how it will play out - Congress and the President are co-equal branches with different functions. Congress allocates. The President spends.

9) The President has National Security as his Primary Responsibility and it's his job to use whatever funds and declarations he needs to for that job. No Court in this Nation (except corrupt on the take Judges) would EVER rule against a President for exercising that authority.

10) In the end the Supreme Court (yes, that's where it will end) will fully VALIDATE the President's Constitutional Authority & the Wall will be built.


Well, Steve Dupe? Did you comprehend points 4, 5, & 6? Do you have any facts, or just more false info & dumb insults??

Clown.

[RedFred]

Man, those Russian bots have really fucked with asspimples reality.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Except that you're wrong (like usual)


Let's talk about what the President can and can't do for this Omnibus Bill. There's a lot of discussion both ways so let's examine how money gets allocated & spent in the US Government:

1. Congress allocates money to be spent. The President spends the allocated money.

2. Once Congress allocates money, their job is oversight of the money being spent. They don't spend the money and have no say HOW it gets spent as long as it's spent legally. That's their job to monitor with oversight.

3. Once the President is given the money with the instructions to spend it, he has a number of choices to make in spending it. There are some rules he has to follow & some of the money is fungible and some isn't.

4. However there are some other factors that are in play here. One of them is that the President has declared a Human Rights Emergency AND has notified Congress that he's invoking the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.

5. This opens up new options.

6. By making these two declarations President Trump has just communicated that he has the authority to NOT spend any funds he doesn't deem necessary and will return them to the US Treasury. So, funds for Planned Parenthood? He can simply not allocate the funds.

7. Also, these declarations make some funds fungible. For instance if he determines that building a Wall on the Southern Border is a defense against Human Trafficking? He can move funds from anywhere else in the Defense Dept Allocation & simply build the Wall.

8. Congress is powerless to stop cash reallocations on an omnibus bill AND cannot stop the DOD from taking measures under a declared Emergency. 9. Despite their language in the Omnibus Bill about the Border Wall, it is trumped by the State of Emergency that Trump declared.

8) So in summary - This will go to the Courts. Congress will sue the President over the Border Wall. But here's how it will play out - Congress and the President are co-equal branches with different functions. Congress allocates. The President spends.

9) The President has National Security as his Primary Responsibility and it's his job to use whatever funds and declarations he needs to for that job. No Court in this Nation (except corrupt on the take Judges) would EVER rule against a President for exercising that authority.

10) In the end the Supreme Court (yes, that's where it will end) will fully VALIDATE the President's Constitutional Authority & the Wall will be built.


Well, Steve Dupe? Did you comprehend points 4, 5, & 6? Do you have any facts, or just more false info & dumb insults??

Clown.

I am satisfied that I am far older than you and more knowledgeable than you and more in touch with reality than you. So I know that, as I stated, a Presidents power is "very" limited as to what he can realistically do and can not do with monies that are allocated by congress. But of course as you stated cases can and do end up in the Supreme Court of the land from time to time which further hinders the President doing as he chooses with the monies allocated. But I am breaking my own rule of not discussing things with the likes of you so bye.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I am satisfied that I am far older than you and more knowledgeable than you and more in touch with reality than you. So I know that, as I stated, a Presidents power is "very" limited as to what he can realistically do and can not do with monies that are allocated by congress. But of course as you stated cases can and do end up in the Supreme Court of the land from time to time which further hinders the President doing as he chooses with the monies allocated. But I am breaking my own rule of not discussing things with the likes of you so bye.

He is proof at how shaken Trump's base is.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

I am satisfied that I am far older than you and more knowledgeable than you and more in touch with reality than you. So I know that, as I stated, a Presidents power is "very" limited as to what he can realistically do and can not do with monies that are allocated by congress. But of course as you stated cases can and do end up in the Supreme Court of the land from time to time which further hinders the President doing as he chooses with the monies allocated. But I am breaking my own rule of not discussing things with the likes of you so bye.

^^Gets proven wrong again, retreats back to the safe space.



Points 4-6... Read it slowly... a couple times...

[2MuchMark]

This can't continue. Trump is clearly terrible at his Job and needs to be removed.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho

And rightfully so, this is exactly the opposite of what he won on.

Three main issues that could have been the deal breakers, build a wall and get the immigration under control, reenergize the economy, cut the worthless spending and don't enter any foreign wars.

With this bill there's no funding for the wall nor a comprehensive immigration reform, as for economy, well the markets run wild but to see the effect on the actual middle class, too early to see that.

But the most disturbing part is increasing the armed forces budget, while it's been a proven way to send some government money to local contractors, one has to ask what's been cooked behind the scenes. How was this so important that a bill like this could ever be accepted, and what's the trade off.

All and all, with signing this, he might have just lost the 2020.

So your plan would be to spend what? 25 billion making a big fuckin wall. That will some how stop mexicans from either using airplanes, ladders and boats from coming over? It's incredible that you believe that is a significant issue in the US. If anything cheap labour built the strength of this nation. Without the influx of immigration the entire infrastructure would not be a fraction of what it is today and if I have to even begin to explain that to you than you have no concept of history.

just now you are realizing that he has lost the 2020 election? That ship has sailed... The only thing that needs to happen is voter turn out and anyone else coming in either democrat or republican will be a better choice hands down. As long as it isnt some idiotic celebrity anyway.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

So your plan would be to spend what? 25 billion making a big fuckin wall. That will some how stop mexicans from either using airplanes, ladders and boats from coming over? It's incredible that you believe that is a significant issue in the US. If anything cheap labour built the strength of this nation. Without the influx of immigration the entire infrastructure would not be a fraction of what it is today and if I have to even begin to explain that to you than you have no concept of history.

just now you are realizing that he has lost the 2020 election? That ship has sailed... The only thing that needs to happen is voter turn out and anyone else coming in either democrat or republican will be a better choice hands down. As long as it isnt some idiotic celebrity anyway.

75% of all Illegal immigrants are on welfare or food stamps, costing the taxpayers $130 Billion every year. The wall will pay for itself if it reduces this by even 10%.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

This can't continue. Trump is clearly terrible at his Job and needs to be removed.

What can't continue? Signing the spending bill that democrats wanted?

How is he clearly terrible at his job? It's not clear at all what you're referring to, explain

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

75% of all Illegal immigrants are on welfare or food stamps, costing the taxpayers $130 Billion every year. The wall will pay for itself if it reduces this by even 10%.

I thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall ya dumb assbackward redneck.

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

I thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall ya dumb assbackward redneck.

Hey SuckedOffThis, I realize you're an emotional dimwit who only spews insults instead of debating facts, but maybe you should attempt to get some facts:

REVEALED! HOW TRUMP WILL GET MEXICO TO PAY FOR WALL

PS- Why would you want to be paying $130 billion every year for illegal non-citizens?

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Acepimp

Hey SuckedOffThis, I realize you're an emotional dimwit who only spews insults instead of debating facts, but maybe you should attempt to get some facts:

REVEALED! HOW TRUMP WILL GET MEXICO TO PAY FOR WALL

PS- Why would you want to be paying $130 billion every year for illegal non-citizens?

You get emotional like a little girl. How old are you?