The Donald is showing the world that if they make a deal with the USA it will not stand.

[Steve Rupe]

The next President will change the deals made by the previous President if he so chooses. If the next President is a Democrat just as the Donald has reversed much of President Obama's actions, the Donald's actions will be reversed as well. The world has already lost alot of the confidence it once had in the United States and this will continue to deteriorate and may never ever be regained.

Our politicians and the party politics games they play has degraded our country. Our dumb ass people keep on keeping on allowing this to happen. I won't be around for many more years and don't care to be because of the crap that is taking place among our "glorious leaders".

We have a man child, conman, and pathological liar as a President and his opponent was a joke of a person that ran against him. That is the dumbing down of Americans on a level that is just unacceptable. I am pretty ashamed of what has happened to my country in my lifetime.

[pimpmaster9000]

Only an idiot trusts the US government...

[dyna mo]

I don't like it either but the office of the president has gotten too powerful, that started long before trump.

[Rochard]

If I understand correctly... Under this deal, there are steps to ensure the deal remains in place and that all sides are honoring it. In the event we suspect Iran is not holding up to it's end of the deal, there is a commission that can demand special inspections. I thought it was reported we did some four hundred inspections since the deal went in place - if this is true, why hasn't any of these inspections turned up anything?

I keep hearing about this "proof" but I have yet to see it.

I thought Trump was a "great negotiator". So far he hasn't done shit.

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

The next President will change the deals made by the previous President if he so chooses. If the next President is a Democrat just as the Donald has reversed much of President Obama's actions, the Donald's actions will be reversed as well. The world has already lost alot of the confidence it once had in the United States and this will continue to deteriorate and may never ever be regained.

Our politicians and the party politics games they play has degraded our country. Our dumb ass people keep on keeping on allowing this to happen. I won't be around for many more years and don't care to be because of the crap that is taking place among our "glorious leaders".

We have a man child, conman, and pathological liar as a President and his opponent was a joke of a person that ran against him. That is the dumbing down of Americans on a level that is just unacceptable. I am pretty ashamed of what has happened to my country in my lifetime.

Hiya Bladewire.

[Bladewire]

The alt-right hate Russian fake nic troll will login with multiple nics praising the move. He's already posted in this thread twice.

Soon we'll see Drax aka onwebcam aka acepimp aka Mineistaken aka ghighi aka Diomed aka AMDWarrior aka boozer aka Dyna Mo aka JohnnyNight etc. etc.

It's literally an old fat hateful alt-right dude backing himself up with fake hate nics 24/7 and bumping his stupid hate threads and ganging up on actual industry people with real identities here. Lame

[Acepimp]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The alt-right hate Russian fake nic troll will login with multiple nics praising the move. He's already posted in this thread twice.

Soon we'll see Drax aka onwebcam aka acepimp aka Mineistaken aka ghighi aka Diomed etc. etc.

So praising the move is bad? Why do you support terrorists BladeLiar?

PS- No one here is a fake Russian troll you ass clown.

[OneHungLo]

Pigshit.

[crockett]

I'm actually mixed on this one.. Iran was gonna get nukes in the long run with this deal. Iran has been sponsoring attacks on our troops before and after this deal and Iran is still working on their missles.

I think the deal was the best option at the time due to us being tied up in Iraq/Afghan and Iran being able to fund terrorist to destabilize Iraq at that time..

However now we are not tied up in a major war, so we can actually pressure Iran with military force if need be. Before we were stretched a bit too thin for a war with Iran so the deal was best bet. Now we aren't and Iran is still sponsoring terrorists..

I don't know if it was a good thing to leave the deal, but I also dunno if it was good to stay in it and let Iran continue on its path.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Rochard

If I understand correctly... Under this deal, there are steps to ensure the deal remains in place and that all sides are honoring it. In the event we suspect Iran is not holding up to it's end of the deal, there is a commission that can demand special inspections. I thought it was reported we did some four hundred inspections since the deal went in place - if this is true, why hasn't any of these inspections turned up anything?

I keep hearing about this "proof" but I have yet to see it.

I thought Trump was a "great negotiator". So far he hasn't done shit.

There is not a "this deal" The Donald has killed the deal. There is not any deal anymore. At least not between Iran and the USA. The other countries that are signatory's to the deal have yet to respond to what the USA has done.

[Boozer]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The alt-right hate Russian fake nic troll will login with multiple nics praising the move. He's already posted in this thread twice.

Soon we'll see Drax aka onwebcam aka acepimp aka Mineistaken aka ghighi aka Diomed aka AMDWarrior aka boozer aka Dyna Mo aka JohnnyNight etc. etc.

It's literally an old fat hateful alt-right dude backing himself up with fake hate nics 24/7 and bumping his stupid hate threads and ganging up on actual industry people with real identities here. Lame

Yawn....

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

There is not a "this deal" The Donald has killed the deal. There is not any deal anymore. At least not between Iran and the USA. The other countries that are signatory's to the deal have yet to respond to what the USA has done.

The deal is still in place. Only the United States has pulled out.

It's just like the TTP. The agreement is still in place, we just aren't a part of it.

[Steve Rupe]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The deal is still in place. Only the United States has pulled out.

It's just like the TTP. The agreement is still in place, we just aren't a part of it.

Not only has the Donald pulled out of the deal but he is also intending to put sanctions on Iran and has made the statement that "anyone" who breaks the sanctions will be subject to US sanctions being imposed upon them. A shit disturber in words at least, we will have to wait and see if his actions back up his words.

[GAMEFINEST]

Trump doesn’t believe in shit

[MPGdevil]

It's obvious Trump is upset Obama has a bigger penis.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The deal is still in place. Only the United States has pulled out.

It's just like the TTP. The agreement is still in place, we just aren't a part of it.

not exactly. nuking the deal blew up the Airbus contract with Iran, Airbus is a Euro company.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

not exactly. nuking the deal blew up the Airbus contract with Iran, Airbus is a Euro company.

they have also a deal with BOEING.

but trump already blackmailed the european companies on twitter and want to put sanctions on all companies from countries who stand for the contract they have signed.

i see this ending up with europe, russia, china and a few others hand in hand showing this guy the fuck finger. he wants trade war - shall he get it. america with all it´s depth will not stand it for even 6 month. if americans are not able to throw this idiot from his chair the rest of the world should do it.

[mineistaken]

Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Pigshit.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by thommy

they have also a deal with BOEING.

but trump already blackmailed the european companies on twitter and want to put sanctions on all companies from countries who stand for the contract they have signed.

i see this ending up with europe, russia, china and a few others hand in hand showing this guy the fuck finger. he wants trade war - shall he get it. america with all it´s depth will not stand it for even 6 month. if americans are not able to throw this idiot from his chair the rest of the world should do it.

the rest of the world should do what Americans just like me are doing, handling our own business under trump and making moves to keep ourselves in business regardless of what he does.
nevertheless, as I stated elsewhere, trump did himself no favors with the other leaders of the countries involved.

[thommy]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the rest of the world should do what Americans just like me are doing, handling our own business under trump and making moves to keep ourselves in business regardless of what he does.
nevertheless, as I stated elsewhere, trump did himself no favors with the other leaders of the countries involved.

wht he does in USA i don´t care - if he shits on the country tomorrow and americans love it - let it be.

but this guy is dangerous for the whole world and it will end in a very serious conflict what will effect all the next generations.

look what he said today:

I would strongly advise Iran not to restart the nuclear program.
If they did that, it would have very serious consequences.

what does that mean?
it means that he quit the contract with the knowledge that iran has NO active nuclear program.
if they would have why he talks about RESTARTING it ?

and what does he think they will do ?
sitting there eating the sanctions and do nothing ?

and trump can not be that dumb not to know that they will not sit there and do nothing.
with other words he declared a war with this step.

do you really think that the rest of the world will accept his war games ?
do you think russia and china and even the europeans will eat that and do nothing and watch how a dangerous senile old fucker is playing world police ?

[Look Chang]

The new American Diplomacy ...

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the rest of the world should do what Americans just like me are doing, handling our own business under trump and making moves to keep ourselves in business regardless of what he does.
nevertheless, as I stated elsewhere, trump did himself no favors with the other leaders of the countries involved.

Great advice this is what I've been doing

[tfto]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The alt-right hate Russian fake nic troll will login with multiple nics praising the move. He's already posted in this thread twice.

Soon we'll see Drax aka onwebcam aka acepimp aka Mineistaken aka ghighi aka Diomed aka AMDWarrior aka boozer aka Dyna Mo aka JohnnyNight etc. etc.

It's literally an old fat hateful alt-right dude backing himself up with fake hate nics 24/7 and bumping his stupid hate threads and ganging up on actual industry people with real identities here. Lame

You and this shit again?. It has become a broken record.

[Bladewire]

↑↑↑ AVN should ban the alt-right fake nic troll "CandyFlip" "Boozer" as the Trump Titanic sinks slowly he gets more erratic off his meds. More hateful and over using his fake nics.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by thommy

they have also a deal with BOEING.

The deal Boeing made with Iran was worth $20 billion.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

The deal Boeing made with Iran was worth $20 billion.

Trump hates Boeing he has a personal Vendetta against them..

Trump says cancel new Air Force One: Boeing costs 'totally out of control'

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Steve Rupe

T.

Our politicians and the party politics games they play has degraded our country.

I was thinking more like when some asshole makes a deal with iran behind the backs of congress it's nice some other asshole took it apart and I'm not sure what the fuck you think BUT EVERY FUCKING COUNTRY HAS FUCKING LIED TO THE USA... get yer feeble shot together okay?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump hates Boeing he has a personal Vendetta against them..

Trump says cancel new Air Force One: Boeing costs 'totally out of control'

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[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump hates Boeing he has a personal Vendetta against them..

Trump says cancel new Air Force One: Boeing costs 'totally out of control'

like me with my hard on for Rolls Royce... the Rolls Royce cost are 'totally out of control' fuck those assholes

[Matt-ADX]

If everyone thinks that the US doesn't hold up their end of deals, it certainly didn't have an effect on North Korea did it?

It wasn't an American deal. It was an Obama deal. It couldn't get passed so Obama signed an executive order. When a new CEO comes in I think we all know as grown business people that he might not keep deals that the old CEO made. It would be very different if it was passed through the house and congress.

Crockett and I seem to be on the same page here. Obama tried to convince everyone that Iran was now moderate. He shipped them planes full of cash and what did they do with it? They actually increased their global terrorist activities. The deal that was signed was not a good deal. Iran set all the conditions.

There is NO inspections allowed on their major military bases

There is NO limits on their ballistic missile program, which they have been breaking UN rules on.

The day after Trump rips up their deal, they don't act moderate, no the fact ass parliament burns US flags and chants death to America. If they actually wanted to fix their country they would probably look to strike a new deal instead of burning flags and screaming for the death of America.

Obama's deal was good because it bought maybe 10 years to the world. That 10 years would only be worth anything if somehow Iran went through a civil war or significant change. 2 years into the deal Trump looked at it and saw they haven't changed shit and they are acting worse than before (minus nuke research) Israel proved that Iran had no long term plans to scrap the nuke program, all they did was put it aside and ready to go at a moments notice.

[candyflip]

Do things the way they're supposed to be done and that won't happen.

When you bypass congress and do everything by way of executive order...this is what happens.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Great advice this is what I've been doing

No you haven't.

[dyna mo]

no deal is not better than the deal. That doesn't even make sense.

[dillonaire]

Donny is just fixing Obama's Fuck ups.

[dillonaire]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

If everyone thinks that the US doesn't hold up their end of deals, it certainly didn't have an effect on North Korea did it?

It wasn't an American deal. It was an Obama deal. It couldn't get passed so Obama signed an executive order. When a new CEO comes in I think we all know as grown business people that he might not keep deals that the old CEO made. It would be very different if it was passed through the house and congress.

Crockett and I seem to be on the same page here. Obama tried to convince everyone that Iran was now moderate. He shipped them planes full of cash and what did they do with it? They actually increased their global terrorist activities. The deal that was signed was not a good deal. Iran set all the conditions.

There is NO inspections allowed on their major military bases

There is NO limits on their ballistic missile program, which they have been breaking UN rules on.

The day after Trump rips up their deal, they don't act moderate, no the fact ass parliament burns US flags and chants death to America. If they actually wanted to fix their country they would probably look to strike a new deal instead of burning flags and screaming for the death of America.

Obama's deal was good because it bought maybe 10 years to the world. That 10 years would only be worth anything if somehow Iran went through a civil war or significant change. 2 years into the deal Trump looked at it and saw they haven't changed shit and they are acting worse than before (minus nuke research) Israel proved that Iran had no long term plans to scrap the nuke program, all they did was put it aside and ready to go at a moments notice.

Iran is a shithole. Leaders and the country support terrorism and terrorist organization. The deal was BS and Iran did nothing. Thankfully we have a President with some balls who will call these assholes on a shit deal.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Matt-ADX

When a new CEO comes in I think we all know as grown business people that he might not keep deals that the old CEO made.

You couldn't be more wrong here.

Deals that a CEO makes include signed contracts, and the next guy cannot just come in and void them instantly. There are legal implications. If Playboy agrees to a five year contract with a certain printing company to print it's magazine, a new CEO cannot just walk in and void that contract. This will land Playboy in court. And if Playboy does this on a regular basis - walking away from contracts and saying "take me to court" eventually no one will want to business with them.

The same thing just happened here. According to the agreement, there are rules to be followed. The United States - or any other country - cannot just pull out of the deal. That is a violation of the deal. Have you read the deal? If any country believes someone has violated the terms of the deal, there are number of steps to take before they can leave the agreement. The United States failed to do this. The United States is the only country to violate the agreement.

On top of this, the agreement is still in place.