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Old 06-08-2018, 02:58 PM   #1
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Baby born from trans man could be first baby born without mother




"Mr Justice Francis heard how the man was born a woman but "realised he was trans" several years ago.

Lawyers said he had lived "as a man" since then and had undergone surgery to "re-contour" his upper body.

The High Court judge was told that the man was granted a gender recognition certificate more than a year ago, before the baby was born."

http://Mr Justice Francis heard how ...baby was born.

A baby could become the first person without a legal mother if a transgender man wins a historic court battle.

Lawyers representing the parent told a judge that he had been biologically able to get pregnant and give birth but had legally become a man when the child was born.

The man wants to be identified as the child's "father" or "parent" on a birth certificate, however a birth registrar told the man the law requires people who give birth to children to be registered as mothers.

The man has since taken legal action against the body set up to administer statutory provisions relating to the registration of births and deaths after complaining of discrimination.

He said forcing him to register as the child's "mother" breached his human right to respect for private and family life.

The man added that such "interference" was not proportionate or necessary in the light of changes which had "evolved in society".

It is an accepted fact that a female who transitions to male may in law maintain the ability to conceive and give birth to a child
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Mr Justice Francis yesterday heard preliminary arguments from lawyers representing the man and lawyers representing The Registrar General for England and Wales at a High Court hearing in London.

The judge said the issue had never been raised in a court in England and Wales before. He added that if the man won his fight ministers might have to consider changing the law.
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Babies don't care, they just need a loving parent.
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I feel obligated to put everyone's mind at ease and note that I had nothing to do with this.
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And there are so many babies without father
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More power to them.

We got some shitty moms in this world.
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Can give birth? That's a woman.
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What a strange world we live in.

I used to find it out when gay parents had kids. I'm not sure why; I just could't figure out the dynamic. I was fine with gay men and gay women, but not in a family setting for some reason. Eventually my kid had friends who had gay parents and I got used to it. Now I don't find it strange at all.
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Kind of fucked up. She must be on a bunch of drugs and hormones to get the beard and muscles and she is pumping that in to her kid :/
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poor kid... the love is there tho. trying to change genders is nuts! why the bearded lady bullshit? that baby is yelling inside lol
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Can give birth? That's a woman.
Science & reality prove you wrong again.

Educate yourself about male pregnancy

You don't need a uterus to carry a child to term & give birth. Fact
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Educate yourself about male pregnancy

You don't need a uterus to carry a child to term & give birth. Fact
you need ovaries or it's artificial. a man can't say out in the wild im going to have a baby. it has to be done in a medical facility. it's not real. just like men make lakes and ponds
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you need ovaries or it's artificial. a man can't say out in the wild im going to have a baby. it has to be done in a medical facility. it's not real. just like men make lakes and ponds
Millions of heterosexual couples can't get pregnant "out in the wild" either , they choose medical intervention and their pregnancies are just as valid as alternative pregnancies and their babies are just as real and cute and loveable.

I think making people feel worthless because they can't do something the same way most people do is pointless.
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Millions of heterosexual couples can't get pregnant "out in the wild" either , they choose medical intervention and their pregnancies are just as valid as alternative pregnancies and their babies are just as real and cute and loveable.

I think making people feel worthless because they can't do something the same way most people do is pointless.
yeah but you are talking two different things here... nobody said they are worthless. that is just stupid. like i said the love is there. men should not be giving birth. nature is not that way. all this stuff is in the mind and people bring it to the physical. i could go on and on... i will just leave it alone... now go have a baby if you want. this makes people into medical science projects. they don't care about if a man giving birth effects your health.
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Science & reality prove you wrong again.

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You don't need a uterus to carry a child to term & give birth. Fact
Human males incubating fetuses are a subject of popular imagination and a recurring theme in speculative fiction

This isn't debated in science. there are only 2 genders and only one can have babies.
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You don't need a uterus to carry a child to term & give birth. Fact
Zero science here. What are you on about again. Whoever said it's loving parents is right, that is all that matters. What I don't like is this made up liberal narrative that now we are going to throw actual science and thousands of years of it out the window so we can say a man (who is still a woman) had a kid.

You are female and identify as a man? Okay ill call you He, man who identifies as a woman, okay... She. But when you tell me they used female reproductive system to conceive and birth a child, that's a woman, I am not going to ignore science and biology so we can make up stories.
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lol is it real
It's a woman transitioning to being a man but still with her lady bits. So your call if that's a man giving birth or a woman giving birth.
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This isn't debated in science. there are only 2 genders and only one can have babies.
You don't need a uterus to carry a child to term & give birth. Fact

The fact that some people don't want the human race to evolve says a lot about the limited lives you live and that you're part of the problem.
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The fact that some people don't want the human race to evolve says a lot about the limited lives you live and that you're part of the problem.
3 million to 1 shot and you sit here quoting that like it's the future of the human race.
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Human evolution is inevitable.

Don't let political or religious dogma make you turn on your fellow humans evolving. Nature has proven that males can carry and nurture young in many species.



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OK bladewire put up or shut up. I challenge you to carry a baby to full term and deliver it so your thread becomes real news.
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The resident GFY alt-right hate fake nic troll hates Gays too. No surprise. He can't even pace his fake nics logging in one right after the other to post hate. His lack of impulse control always gives him away, and his hate as well.. of course.
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Am I onewebcam and Speigelau now? Maybe people talking shit to you because you are counter talking 7000 years of human evolution saying that now men can have babies and it's evolution.

You are a nutjob
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Am I onewebcam and Speigelau now? Maybe people talking shit to you because you are counter talking 7000 years of human evolution saying that now men can have babies and it's evolution.

You are a nutjob
Wait; are you suggesting humans have only been around 7,000 years?
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Wait; are you suggesting humans have only been around 7,000 years?
Missed a zero. Just thew that out there, probs older than that.
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Trump supporters disagreeing on how long humans have existed. Spoiler alert! They think humans existed with dinasours



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Trump supporters disagreeing on how long humans have existed. Spoiler alert! They think humans existed with dinasours
I don't think either of us think that. When I said older I meant maybe another 50K years or so.
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↑↑↑ Canadian Trump supporter, living in Canada, that supports Trump's tarrifs against Canada and resists human evolution.

Spoiler alert! Humanity isn't waiting for you to catch up!



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Missed a zero. Just thew that out there, probs older than that.
You missed 3 zeros.
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You missed 3 zeros.
you think 7 Million? It's like 100K to 200K man
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you think 7 Million? It's like 100K to 200K man
While our ancestors have been around for about six million years, the modern form of humans only evolved about 200,000 years ago.

https://www.universetoday.com/38125/...been-on-earth/
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While our ancestors have been around for about six million years, the modern form of humans only evolved about 200,000 years ago.

https://www.universetoday.com/38125/...been-on-earth/
Yeah, I was going based on current homo sapiens since it's what we were talking about
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https://www.universetoday.com/38125/...been-on-earth/
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Hard to know that when you start off with 7000 years of human evolution, give or take 150,000
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