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slapass · 06-09-2018, 02:29 PM

Why are fighting with Canada over trade? Totally serious here. Trade surplus. Decent people. Wtf do we gain with this?

kane · 06-09-2018, 02:33 PM

It's a bold Trump strategy. Piss off your allies while sucking China's cock.

dyna mo · 06-09-2018, 02:36 PM

Both sides stand to gain fair trade with trump's deal with CA.

For US, our dairy farmers stand to gain a lot for instance. trump wants the CA dairy tariffs removed.
here's a good article on the issue
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/u-...dairy-dispute/

He wants all tariffs removed, in fact, on both sides on everything.

true free trade. Why would anyone disagree with true free trading?

Bladewire · 06-09-2018, 02:37 PM

You're talking about a man who went on national TV and said he was considering pardoning a man, who has no convictions to pardon.

He says stuff to say stuff and usually doesn't do what he says, and randomly does what he does just to be different so he can live up to the "shaking things up" persona his base wants.

kane · 06-09-2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

Both sides stand to gain fair trade with trump's deal with CA.

For US, our dairy farmers stand to gain a lot for instance. trump wants the CA dairy tariffs removed.
here's a good article on the issue
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/u-...dairy-dispute/

He wants all tariffs removed, in fact, on both sides on everything.

true free trade. Why would anyone disagree with true free trading?

Maybe I am just ignorant, but wouldn't true free trade open up this country to massive outsourcing overseas?

dyna mo · 06-09-2018, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Maybe I am just ignorant, but wouldn't true free trade open up this country to massive outsourcing overseas?

I was speaking specifically re CA/NAFTA. china is more complicated, obviously.

kane · 06-09-2018, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

I was speaking specifically re CA/NAFTA. china is more complicated, obviously.

That makes more sense. Free, open trade with Canada seems like a no-brainer.

Brian mike · 06-09-2018, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

That makes more sense. Free, open trade with Canada seems like a no-brainer.

Of course a no brainer

... Think again of that one

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

For US, our dairy farmers stand to gain a lot for instance. trump wants the CA dairy tariffs removed.
here's a good article on the issue
https://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/u-...dairy-dispute/

Great Article Thanks ... Now i understand why Trump Crying like a little baby.

dyna mo · 06-09-2018, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike

Of course a no brainer

... Think again of that one

It's nice to see a canadian agree with Trump on something.

dyna mo · 06-09-2018, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike

Great Article Thanks ... Now i understand why Trump Crying like a little baby.

you're welcome. It helped me understand why trudeau is a hypcritical douchebag clinging to tariffs.

Brian mike · 06-09-2018, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you're welcome. It helped me understand why trudeau is a hypcritical douchebag clinging to tariffs.

It just mean we don't need your Extra production of Milk! We have extra here Already this is what Trump Dosen't get.
Probably one of the reason it was not include in Nafta deal. So now Trump want Agriculture add to nafta.
THATS A TOTALY DIFFERENT STORY.

You guys are better off getting ready to send your milk over the WALL for some pesos

But again it was an interesting Article and i did not know we was charging 270%....
Let's make it 350% and hopefuly Trump will get it

dyna mo · 06-09-2018, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike

It just mean we don't need your Extra production of Milk! We have extra here Already this is what Trump Dosen't get.
Probably one of the reason it was not include in Nafta deal. So now Trump want Agriculture add to nafta.
THATS A TOTALY DIFFERENT STORY.

You guys are better off getting ready to send your milk over the WALL for some pesos

But again it was an interesting Article and i did not know we was charging 270%....
Let's make it 350% and hopefuly Trump will get it

Too late, you already agreed with trump.

BaldBastard · 06-09-2018, 04:32 PM

meanwhile Australia and NZ can't produce enough milk powder for the Chinese market... there paying $A5 to $7 a litre for it ($USD 13.75 - 20.12 a gallon )

What's the price in Canada and the USA again?

See if Trump really wanted to save your dairy industry.. EPA and regulations to get all the hormone shit out would be the biggest benefit... might make it actually saleable.

romeo22 · 06-09-2018, 04:34 PM

you can't never understand politics ..there is always something more

Brian mike · 06-09-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

What's the price in Canada and the USA again?

Canada: The national average price for four litres of two per cent milk is $4.80 or $1.20 per litre.
Atlantic Canada milk prices among highest in Canada | The Chronicle Herald

United States: retail stores in 2014. The price of one gallon of milk came to 3.82 U.S. dollars in that year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...united-states/

those can be outdated number's but that's what i find so far .

dyna mo · 06-09-2018, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

See if Trump really wanted to save your dairy industry.. EPA and regulations to get all the hormone shit out would be the biggest benefit... might make it actually saleable.

where do you come up with this sort of thing?

BaldBastard · 06-09-2018, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian mike

Canada: The national average price for four litres of two per cent milk is $4.80 or $1.20 per litre.
Atlantic Canada milk prices among highest in Canada | The Chronicle Herald

United States: retail stores in 2014. The price of one gallon of milk came to 3.82 U.S. dollars in that year.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...united-states/

those can be outdated number's but that's what i find so far .

Like I said.. Chinas buying for $A5 to $7 a litre for it ($USD 13.75 - 20.12 a gallon) That's the prices Aus and NZ are getting cos basically the lots going to China.

BaldBastard · 06-09-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

where do you come up with this sort of thing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

China's demand for its own milk dropped after it started killing people, Aus and NZ took up the slack, USA missed out because of hormone usage in your products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin

If the USA want's to increase trade in agriculture, especially to China, then regulations are your only safe guard, cos they will drop a whole countries products over a few bad eggs... ask your beef farmers how that goes..

GAMEFINEST · 06-09-2018, 09:56 PM

lol there will be more to come that will blow your mind

slapass · 06-10-2018, 10:05 AM

Both countries protect dairy. It is not even clear if this is a WTO violation. So like I said, wtf? This is where

dyna mo · 06-10-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

China's demand for its own milk dropped after it started killing people, Aus and NZ took up the slack, USA missed out because of hormone usage in your products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_somatotropin

If the USA want's to increase trade in agriculture, especially to China, then regulations are your only safe guard, cos they will drop a whole countries products over a few bad eggs... ask your beef farmers how that goes..

actually,

china stopped importing milk due to their domestic issues, and eu stopped their quotas on milk in 2015 unleashing supply. none of the worldwide glut in dairy has anything to do with GH in USA milk. you can't just simply turn off milk production.

BaldBastard · 06-10-2018, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

actually,

china stopped importing milk due to their domestic issues, and eu stopped their quotas on milk in 2015 unleashing supply. none of the worldwide glut in dairy has anything to do with GH in USA milk. you can't just simply turn off milk production.

MMm.. no try shopping in a super market here when they bring in a new supply of baby formula, its wiped off the shelves in minutes after a bus load of Chinese pull up

here's a good break down

https://www.rabobank.com.au/media-re...-end-products/

I come from cow country in NZ ;) and the farmers are all driving range rovers.

But do note the Chinese market hasn't even started, 100g a year per person consumption, vs USA at 10,000g, while China will never be American style cheese heads pushing them to 1000g a year is very realistic.

All these trade woes will end soon, except we will ALL be in Chinas pocket.

beerptrol · 06-10-2018, 01:46 PM

Canada needs to dump alot of money into a project Chump will make money on. Just like China did and now he's worried about chinese jobs. Pay to play!

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	China or Canada Why are fighting with Canada over trade? Totally serious here. Trade surplus. Decent people. Wtf do we gain with this?

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beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	Canada needs to dump alot of money into a project Chump will make money on. Just like China did and now he's worried about chinese jobs. Pay to play! __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	It's a bold Trump strategy. Piss off your allies while sucking China's cock.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,905	Both sides stand to gain fair trade with trump's deal with CA. For US, our dairy farmers stand to gain a lot for instance. trump wants the CA dairy tariffs removed. here's a good article on the issue https://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/u-...dairy-dispute/ He wants all tariffs removed, in fact, on both sides on everything. true free trade. Why would anyone disagree with true free trading?

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BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,868	meanwhile Australia and NZ can't produce enough milk powder for the Chinese market... there paying $A5 to $7 a litre for it ($USD 13.75 - 20.12 a gallon ) What's the price in Canada and the USA again? See if Trump really wanted to save your dairy industry.. EPA and regulations to get all the hormone shit out would be the biggest benefit... might make it actually saleable.

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romeo22 你自己去他媽的 Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 23,346	you can't never understand politics ..there is always something more

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	Both countries protect dairy. It is not even clear if this is a WTO violation. So like I said, wtf? This is where