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Old 06-14-2018, 08:26 AM   #1
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BREAKING! Attorney General Sue's Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, Eric Trump & Trump Jr.


Another day and Trump is smacked down and shown he's not above the law.

Everyone knows Trump is a greedy self dealing slimeball, now his non profit it going to be dissolved by the state of New York for self dealing.

"As our investigation reveals, the Trump Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality," Underwood said in a statement. "This is not how private foundations should function and my office intends to hold the Foundation and its directors accountable for its misuse of charitable assets."

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New York attorney general sues Trump Foundation, alleging illegal activity
The lawsuit seeks $2.8 million in restitution, and additional penalties
by Jane C. Timm / Jun.14.2018 / 8:14 AM ET
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Then President-elect Donald Trump stands with his children Eric, left, Ivanka and Donald Jr. at Trump Tower in New York on Jan. 11, 2017.Timothy A. Clary / AFP - Getty Images file

New York Attorney General Barbara Underwood sued President Donald Trump and his charitable foundation on Thursday, alleging that the president and his adult children illegally used the private foundation for personal, business, and political expenses.

The lawsuit alleges illegal activity that took place over more than a decade, including “extensive unlawful political coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing transactions to benefit Mr. Trump’s personal and business interests, and violations of basic legal obligations for non-profit foundations.”

"As our investigation reveals, the Trump Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality," Underwood said in a statement. "This is not how private foundations should function and my office intends to hold the Foundation and its directors accountable for its misuse of charitable assets."
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all bladewire news = breaking!

lawsuit #4501 for the trumps
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In fact, Trump said having a sitting president under criminal investigation would result in a “constitutional crisis.”

“She’s likely to be under investigation for criminality for a very, very long time to come,” Trump said during a Oct. 31, 2016 speech in Warren, Mich.

Two days ahead of the election on Nov. 5, 2016, Trump said Clinton’s “current scandals and controversies will continue throughout her presidency” and it would be “impossible for her to govern.”
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Perfect timing.

How bad is this OIG report going to be?
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The OIG report was timed to come out the day before Manafort is arrested for his role in Trump Russia collusion case( tomorrow )

Anyone remember this investigative story from last year?

How Donald Trump Shifted Kids-Cancer Charity Money Into His Business | Forbes
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Perfect timing.

How bad is this OIG report going to be?
Are you a distant relative of trump's?
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Are you a distant relative of trump's?
How did you know?
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Anyone remember this investigative story from 2016?

Trump Foundation admits to violating ban on ‘self-dealing,’ new filing to IRS shows

Trump supporters still supported his illegal activity in 2016, before he was elected, and to this day. Sad

"The admission was contained in the Donald J. Trump Foundation’s IRS tax filings for 2015, which were recently posted online at the nonprofit-tracking site GuideStar."

"During the presidential campaign, The Post reported on several instances in which Trump appeared to use the Trump Foundation’s money to buy items for himself or to help one of his for-profit businesses."


"In one section of the form, the IRS asked whether the Trump Foundation had transferred “income or assets to a disqualified person.” A disqualified person, in this context, might be Trump — the foundation’s president — or a member of his family or a Trump-owned business."

"Another line on the form asked whether the Trump Foundation had engaged in any acts of self-dealing in prior years. The Trump Foundation checked yes again.

Such violations can carry penalties including excise taxes, and the charity leaders can be required to repay money that the charity spent on their behalf.

"During the presidential campaign, The Post reported on several instances in which Trump appeared to use the Trump Foundation’s money to buy items for himself or to help one of his for-profit businesses."
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How did you know?
because it's obvious you're motivated by something other than logic.
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...but .but...but... Hillary...the emails and Benghazi..
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because it's obvious you're motivated by something other than logic.
It's not motivation, it's experience. This happens all the time on both sides. If Trump is going to have something good happen for him, there is a counter-narrative ready to try and take it's place. It works the other way as well - when Trump has something damaging to him come out, there is a positive counter-narrative floated out there to take some sting out.

Logic doesn't enter the picture in this case - it's just experience.
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It's not motivation, it's experience. This happens all the time on both sides. If Trump is going to have something good happen for him, there is a counter-narrative ready to try and take it's place. It works the other way as well - when Trump has something damaging to him come out, there is a positive counter-narrative floated out there to take some sting out.

Logic doesn't enter the picture in this case - it's just experience.
that's what I'm saying, you completely remove logic from the critical thinking process.

the only reason to do so is because it disrupts your view.

We're talking about a criminal family self dealing and you seem to think that's OK because there's another report coming out about something else.
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...but .but...but... Hillary...the emails and Benghazi..
LOL. You beat me too it.
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that's what I'm saying, you completely remove logic from the critical thinking process.

the only reason to do so is because it disrupts your view.

We're talking about a criminal family self dealing and you seem to think that's OK because there's another report coming out about something else.
I don't think it's okay - I will wait to see what happens without prejudging it.

I am simply familiar with the process and how it works. I know why this came out today is what I am saying - I make no clam about it's veracity.
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The entire Trump family and their entire organization has been dirty from the ground up since day one. This should not surprise anyone at all. Every last thing they do is corrupt.
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I don't think it's okay - I will wait to see what happens without prejudging it.

I am simply familiar with the process and how it works. I know why this came out today is what I am saying - I make no clam about it's veracity.
good then, I know you are capable of being logical. I've seen you doing so.

but I have to say, I've also seen you putting logic aside to defend trump.
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good then, I know you are capable of being logical. I've seen you doing so.

but I have to say, I've also seen you putting logic aside to defend trump.
Show me. I will prove that is not the case.
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Perfect timing.

How bad is this OIG report going to be?
My understanding from what I have been reading from "leaks" about the report is alot of criticism about this or that but no smoking gun type of charges. I guess we are supposed to know before days end.
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Show me. I will prove that is not the case.
I'm not out to gotcha ya amigo.

but your comments in this thread alone show you are putting logic aside to defend trump.
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The entire Trump family and their entire organization has been dirty from the ground up since day one. This should not surprise anyone at all. Every last thing they do is corrupt.
Ivanka takes after her Father. Sad

She stole all shoe designs from designer Eric Lam in 2011 when she started a discounted shoe line, and he sued











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She stole all shoe designs from designer Eric Lam in 2011 when she started a discounted shoe line, and he sued











Her entire business is a sham. They rip other people's designs, have them made in China, and then sell them at a steep profit.

I'd still hit it though.
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My understanding from what I have been reading from "leaks" about the report is alot of criticism about this or that but no smoking gun type of charges. I guess we are supposed to know before days end.
I haven't seen any good leaks yet. Like you mentioned, just some criticisms but I haven't heard of any criminal referrals. Honest people are just looking for the truth. It's asinine and strains credulity to pretend Trump supporters don't care what this says and will blindly support him no matter what. Just put it all out there and let us decide.
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The entire Trump family and their entire organization has been dirty from the ground up since day one. This should not surprise anyone at all. Every last thing they do is corrupt.
I formed my opinion that they were dirty many years ago by "their business practices" over the years. They have been shady to say the very least and it is my opinion that they are a crime family. Each and every one of them and I think that all of them are going to be criminally charged at some point in time.
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I'm not out to gotcha ya amigo.

but your comments in this thread alone show you are putting logic aside to defend trump.
LOL.

WHERE? WHAT have I said that is illogical?
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LOL.

WHERE? WHAT have I said that is illogical?


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Perfect timing.

How bad is this OIG report going to be?
Spock is rolling over in his grave this is so illogical.

no offense.
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My understanding from what I have been reading from "leaks" about the report is alot of criticism about this or that but no smoking gun type of charges. I guess we are supposed to know before days end.
Yep, everyone agrees Comey was out of line, but as for doing something criminal! Probably not. Plus there will be no smoking gun of a deep state conspiracy

Just remember folks, Chump was praising Comey when he came out and said Hillary was under investigation for her handling of emals. It wasn't until he wouldn't kiss Chump's ring that he then had a problem with Comey. Comey would still have his job if he pledged and showed loyalty to Chump
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Spock is rolling over in his grave this is so illogical.

no offense.
What is illogical about it?

Are you saying there is no such thing as a counter-narrative? That both sides don't put out things to distract from items/events that they don't want the focus on?
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"The attorney general has sent letters identifying potential violations to the Federal Elections Commission and the Internal Revenue Service, as well."

I hope the criminals are finally charged
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What is illogical about it?

Are you saying there is no such thing as a counter-narrative? That both sides don't put out things to distract from items/events that they don't want the focus on?
not at all.



I'm saying that you going straight to that doesn't make sense here other than an illogical attempt to dodge and deflect from this issue in this thread about the criminal family trump who cheats charities to line their own pockets.
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In 2016 After Trump admitting in 2015 IRS filings to giving himself the charity money, he tried to close the charity:

Donald Trump attempts to shut down his charitable foundation

"The attorney general's press secretary, Amy Spitalnick, said the foundation can't close just yet, however. "As the foundation is still under investigation by this office, it cannot legally dissolve until that investigation is complete," said Spitalnick."

"The foundation announced its intent to dissolve and is seeking approval to distribute its remaining funds" to other charities, according to its 2016 Internal Revenue Service filing, filed this month and uploaded to the website of the nonprofit information source Guidestar.org by the foundation."

"In a statement, a spokesperson for the foundation confirmed that it is being shuttered. "The Foundation continues to cooperate with the New York Attorney General’s Charities Division, and as previously announced by the President, his advisers are working with the Charities Division to wind up the affairs of the Foundation. "
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Jim Trump, sort of gave it away
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not at all.



I'm saying that you going straight to that doesn't make sense here other than an illogical attempt to dodge and deflect from this issue in this thread about the criminal family trump who cheats charities to line their own pockets.
I did no dodging or deflecting on the topic at all. Here, I will repeat it for you.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Perfect timing.

How bad is this OIG report going to be?

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My issue is not with the point of the thread - it could all be true.

What was my comment about?

T I M I N G
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JT! I like that. Hiss, put that on my luggage!
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I did no dodging or deflecting on the topic at all. Here, I will repeat it for you.

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Perfect timing.

How bad is this OIG report going to be?

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My issue is not with the point of the thread - it could all be true.

What was my comment about?

T I M I N G

I'm not seeing how I misread your post. maybe if you rephrased it for me I could see it better. you're kind of assuming the OIG report must be a bombshell right? or are you saying this criminal filing is just as nothing as the yet to be released report?

again, not trying to gotcha ya but I see your post as a dodge and deflect from the OP fact the trump family are criminal and horrible people who steal from the less fortunate.
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I'm not seeing how I misread your post. maybe if you rephrased it for me I could see it better. you're kind of assuming the OIG report must be a bombshell right? or are you saying this criminal filing is just as nothing as the yet to be released report?

again, not trying to gotcha ya but I see your post as a dodge and deflect from the OP fact the trump family are criminal and horrible people who steal from the less fortunate.
Your claim was that I am being illogical. I understand that you see my post as a dodge and deflect and I can appreciate that position.

If you had said I was dodging and deflecting, we'd have a debate - however, my post is not illogical.

T I M I N G is everything.
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If Trump is not criminal then he is most definitely UNETHICAL. And yet his Supporters love him and thinks he will clean up everything. It's laughable really.

Then again, Bill Clinton humming and hawing over Monica Lewinsky and the "Me Too" Movement is hilarious, sad and pathetic as well.
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:22 AM   #42
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If Trump is not criminal then he is most definitely UNETHICAL. And yet his Supporters love him and thinks he will clean up everything. It's laughable really.

Then again, Bill Clinton humming and hawing over Monica Lewinsky and the "Me Too" Movement is hilarious, sad and pathetic as well.
Where do you guys get these ideas? Have there been posters on here saying "I don't care what kinds of crimes Trump commits, I want to have his baby!" that I missed?
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The filing from the attorney general states that Trumo used donated money from his "charity" to pay his attorney and 2016 campaign costs.

Looks like he paid Michael Cohen & Stormy Daniels from money donated to his charity.



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If Trump is not criminal then he is most definitely UNETHICAL. And yet his Supporters love him and thinks he will clean up everything. It's laughable really.

Then again, Bill Clinton humming and hawing over Monica Lewinsky and the "Me Too" Movement is hilarious, sad and pathetic as well.
Trump paid out $25,000,000 for defrauding his supporters in the federal Trump University class action lawsuit. He dragged the lawsuit out for over 10 years, one of the longest in history, to avoid paying.

Trump fucking people over , who were his fsns, and paid thousands to learn his secrets, says a lot about what kind of scum Trump is
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I hope and pray they get this fool for wire fraud carries up to a 20 year term
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Your claim was that I am being illogical. I understand that you see my post as a dodge and deflect and I can appreciate that position.

If you had said I was dodging and deflecting, we'd have a debate - however, my post is not illogical.

T I M I N G is everything.
But you're saying the OIG report will be good for trump. how does the AG announcing they are suing trump time with this?
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I hope and pray they get this fool for wire fraud carries up to a 20 year term

Here's a receipt from Trump's non profit foundation to pay off a personal $100,000 legal settlement against Mara Largo.



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But you're saying the OIG report will be good for trump. how does the AG announcing they are suing trump time with this?
Trump is not a subject of this OIG report. I believe it will be good for him IF it shows political bias inside the agencies that were infiltrating his campaign. However, they are separate issues.

IF the report is good for Trump, then a counter-narrative of "Here is why Trump sucks today" is a typical response to mitigate it.

I don't know anything about the NY issue and therefore don't have an opinion yet. I'm old fashioned that way.
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I don't think it's okay - I will wait to see what happens without prejudging it.

I am simply familiar with the process and how it works. I know why this came out today is what I am saying - I make no clam about it's veracity.
You wont "pre-judge" anything to do with Trump, but Hillary is guilty and should be locked up despite no evidence stating why.

Your logic seems very biased.
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You wont "pre-judge" anything to do with Trump, but Hillary is guilty and should be locked up despite no evidence stating why.

Your logic seems very biased.
Hillary isn't guilty of anything. She's never been charged with anything.

It's stunning how the Republicans keep going back to Hillary and their "lock her up" chant.
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