12 Russians indicted in Mueller investigation

[2MuchMark]

12 Russian Military Officers charged with interference of 2016 election.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/polit...nts/index.html

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/0...indictment.pdf

Yeah. Chump won fair and square.

Washington (CNN)The Justice Department announced indictments in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election against 12 Russian nationals, accusing them of engaging in a "sustained effort" to hack Democrats' emails and computer networks.

All 12 defendants are members of the GRU, a Russian federation intelligence agency within the main intelligence directorate of the Russian military, who were acting in "their official capacities."
DOJ says the hacking targeted Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, with the intention to "release that information on the internet under the names DCLeaks and Guccifer 2.0 and through another entity."

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said the indictment does not name any American citizen.

"There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime," he said at a news conference. "There is no allegation that the conspiracy altered the vote count or changed any election result."

The indictment was announced at almost exactly the moment that Trump rolled into the quadrangle of Windsor Castle to meet the awaiting Queen Elizabeth II in the symbolic highpoint of his visit to Britain. It also emerged two days before Trump is due to meet Russian President Vladimir Putin -- who has denied election meddling -- in Helsinki for a summit that includes a one-on-one meeting with only interpreters present.

The unfolding drama on both sides of the Atlantic reflected how Trump's presidency has been overshadowed by the Mueller probe from its earliest moments and how the investigation frequently tramples the President's attempts to carve out favorable headlines.

Prosecutors from Mueller's office and the Justice Department's National Security Division visited the courtroom of a federal magistrate judge in Washington at 11:30 a.m. ET to return the grand jury indictment, according to an itinerary posted outside the courtroom.

[Rochard]

Didn't Mueller just ask for a lot more Subpoenas?

[Busty2]

Nothing to see here, it's a Witch Hunt !

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Didn't Mueller just ask for a lot more Subpoenas?

"During a speech on July 16,2016 Trump made a statement telling Russia to find Hillary's missing emails, That night of July 16,2016 the Russian hack started,"

Mueller is correlating Trump asking Russians to hack on live TV, with the attacks that began that night

[RedFred]

Trump performed a coup right before our very eyes and is the biggest traitor this country has ever had.

[crockett]

Oh shit.. Mark beat me to the post button by a minute lol..

Watching Trump & Republicans in Congress make excuses for doing nothing will no longer be fun and games. It's long past time to hold the entire Republican party accountable for being traitors. At this point, it doesn't matter if Trump directly conspired, had others conspire for him or was just taken advantage of. He and the Republican party have gone out of their way to do nothing about the Russia problem so they are all guilty of treason at this point.

[dyna mo]

dang ruskies!

[Rochard]

I love the timing of this too. Our government indicts 12 Russians for meddling in our elections days before Trump is meeting with Putin.... Meanwhile, he still denies it happened.

[onwebcam]

Another useless indictment by Team Mueller and Rosenconspirator.

Feel free to explain how they plan to prove this when they don't have the server.. Oh that's right, DNC paid crowdstrike told them.. LOL

[Sarn]

trump meet with pootin. liberal hysteria rise

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I love the timing of this too. Our government indicts 12 Russians for meddling in our elections days before Trump is meeting with Putin.... Meanwhile, he still denies it happened.

Trump will say he asked Putin and Putin denied it. He'll then say he believes Putin.

He asked Russia to hack emails live on TV, then they did and started releasing Podesta's emails. If Trump says he believes it was Russia then that means he believes they hacked the emails after he asked them to.

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Another useless indictment by Team Mueller and Rosenconspirator.

Feel free to explain how they plan to prove this when they don't have the server.. Oh that's right, DNC paid crowdstrike told them.. LOL

Do you carry a cyanide pill for the day the shit hits the fan?

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Do you carry a cyanide pill for the day the shit hits the fan?

He'll just start posting under a different nic again.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Do you carry a cyanide pill for the day the shit hits the fan?

Why because Mueller indicted some people that have nothing to do with Trump again? LOL

This is already being picked apart... The shit show is so fucking stupid it's ridiculous.. The dates don't make any sense for there to be "collusion"

Also note the fact that Trump was briefed on the matter... You don't brief a suspect...

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Why because Mueller indicted some people that have nothing to do with Trump again? LOL

This is already being picked apart... The shit show is so fucking stupid it's ridiculous.. The dates don't make any sense for there to be "collusion"

Also note the fact that Trump was briefed on the matter... You don't brief a suspect...

Sure buddy. You're defending treason.

Russia tried to steal Hillary Clinton’s emails ‘for the first time’ hours after Trump asked if they were listening

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by RedFred

Sure buddy. You're defending treason.

Russia tried to steal Hillary Clinton’s emails ‘for the first time’ hours after Trump asked if they were listening

Of course he's defending treason. He created 3 threads yesterday that we're complete lies.

Onwebcam is a oneway propaganda machine. He won't listen to reason or have logical discussions because that's not his job. That's one if the failings of the alt-right trolls, they talk down to you and shoot down everything you say and link to saying they don't believe it and facts are negotiable.

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by crockett

Oh shit.. Mark beat me to the post button by a minute lol..

Somebody's gotta save these gfy trump nutters!

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Another useless indictment by Team Mueller and Rosenconspirator.

Not useless. It's a very smart move.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Why because Mueller indicted some people that have nothing to do with Trump again? LOL

It has everything to do with Trump.

[Rochard]

I didn't fully read the news earlier this morning; I was working. These Russians are accused of hacking the DNC and then turning it over to Wikileaks? LOL.

[Helix]

How did the FBI determine that the Russians hacked the DNC when the DNC has refused to turn over the server to the FBI?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Helix

How did the FBI determine that the Russians hacked the DNC when the DNC has refused to turn over the server to the FBI?

Took someone's word for it?

[onwebcam]

Apparently the DNC server was never hacked according to Rosenstein... It was supposedly spearphished.....

[8pt-buck]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Another useless indictment by Team Mueller and Rosenconspirator.

Feel free to explain how they plan to prove this when they don't have the server.. Oh that's right, DNC paid crowdstrike told them.. LOL

I'm dying to hear how they plan on bringing the indicted Russians back on US soil to prosecute.
More tax dollars wasted

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I didn't fully read the news earlier this morning; I was working. These Russians are accused of hacking the DNC and then turning it over to Wikileaks? LOL.

The same story it's always been: Russians spearfished big names in the DNC, some fell for it, then they published the emails via WikiLeaks and a site they created called DC Leaks

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

The same story it's always been: Russians spearfished big names in the DNC, some fell for it, then they published the emails via WikiLeaks and a site they created called DC Leaks

They spearphished RNC folks as well.. I wonder why Mueller made no mention of that in this silly indictment?

[GFED]

Liberal media is what won Trump the election. Not some imaginary "Russian collusion".

You can thank CNN that Trump is in the White House.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck

I'm dying to hear how they plan on bringing the indicted Russians back on US soil to prosecute.
More tax dollars wasted

They will be trying the case based entirely on circumstantial evidence.. Even payments were supposedly made in bitcoin.... It's all for show.. The case will get buried with "national security" lawyers like the other.

[8pt-buck]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Apparently the DNC server was never hacked according to Rosenstein... It was supposedly spearphished.....

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by GFED

Liberal media is what won Trump the election. Not some imaginary "Russian collusion".

You can thank CNN that Trump is on the White House.

Trump asked Russia to hack us in live TV. That is real. Later that night, the spearfishing began.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

They will be trying the case based entirely on circumstantial evidence.. Even payments were supposedly made in bitcoin.... It's all for show.. The case will get buried with "national security" lawyers like the other.

Hey they're looking for you in this other thread you created.

It seems that when you're proven wrong you don't face the music and post in every other thread. Why don't you pop in there and say hi? It's your thread, you created it.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

They will be trying the case based entirely on circumstantial evidence.. Even payments were supposedly made in bitcoin.... It's all for show.. The case will get buried with "national security" lawyers like the other.

I see now that it went directly to the National Security Division...

Total fucking bullshit..

[GFED]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump asked Russia to hack us in live TV. That is real. Later that night, the spearfishing began.

Yes I remember watching the debate when he said it. He was being sarcastic. They took that out of centext just like everything else he said when he was running. That's why people turned against the liberal media and voted for him. Also all the violence from BLM and Antifa, and cheating Bernie Sanders didn't help.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by GFED

Yes I remember watching the debate when he said it. He was being sarcastic. They took that out of centext just like everything else he said when he was running. That's why people turned against the liberal media and voted for him. Also all the violence from BLM and Antifa, and cheating Bernie Sanders didn't help.

Actually a reporter asked him moments later if he was serious and he said yes. See for yourself

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Helix

How did the FBI determine that the Russians hacked the DNC when the DNC has refused to turn over the server to the FBI?

Eventually the DNC did work with the FBI and gave them copies of everything.

In his testimony in January on the cyber attacks, then-director of the FBI James Comey said the agency never got access to the machines themselves, but obtained access to the forensics from a review of the system performed by CrowdStrike, a third-party cybersecurity firm.

"We got the forensics from the pros that they hired which -- again, best practice is always to get access to the machines themselves, but this my folks tell me was an appropriate substitute," Comey said.

"The DNC coordinated with the FBI and federal intelligence agencies and provided everything they requested, including copies of DNC servers," Watson said. She added that the copy contains the same information as the physical server.

Did John Podesta deny CIA and FBI access to DNC server, as Donald Trump claims? | PolitiFact

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Trump asked Russia to hack us in live TV. That is real. Later that night, the spearfishing began.

They don't care. They could care less about democracy, this country, or the constitution. Their only concern is that their madman cult leader is in power no matter how it happened and they will defend it until the end.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Actually a reporter asked him moments later if he was serious and he said yes. See for yourself

I really hope what he did here is illegal/contributes to his downfall. Unacceptable.

[GFED]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I really hope what he did here is illegal/contributes to his downfall. Unacceptable.

Timestamp?

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Eventually the DNC did work with the FBI and gave them copies of everything.

In his testimony in January on the cyber attacks, then-director of the FBI James Comey said the agency never got access to the machines themselves, but obtained access to the forensics from a review of the system performed by CrowdStrike, a third-party cybersecurity firm.

"We got the forensics from the pros that they hired which -- again, best practice is always to get access to the machines themselves, but this my folks tell me was an appropriate substitute," Comey said.

"The DNC coordinated with the FBI and federal intelligence agencies and provided everything they requested, including copies of DNC servers," Watson said. She added that the copy contains the same information as the physical server.

Did John Podesta deny CIA and FBI access to DNC server, as Donald Trump claims? | PolitiFact

Copies of everything from a Russian owned company they paid for provided.. Who instead of preserving the evidence wiped the server clean so no one could say any differently.... Total bullshit..

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by GFED

Timestamp?

what do you mean?

[2MuchMark]

Originally Posted by 8pt-buck

I'm dying to hear how they plan on bringing the indicted Russians back on US soil to prosecute.
More tax dollars wasted

Call your lawyer and ask him to explain the strategy. It's brilliant, and it's been done before.

Originally Posted by GFED

Liberal media is what won Trump the election. Not some imaginary "Russian collusion".

Even if Trump won fair and square, don't you think that the idea of a Russian attempt to sway the election should be investigated?

[beerptrol]

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Call your lawyer and ask him to explain the strategy. It's brilliant, and it's been done before.



Even if Trump won fair and square, don't you think that the idea of a Russian attempt to sway the election should be investigated?

They and every other country including both of ours have done the same shit since forever... It's nothing new and it won't change because Hillary lost apparently due to some facebook ads.. The Russians probably already have new names and shacked up in DC right now.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by beerptrol

Great product placement

I thought honey was the trick not peanut butter?

[GFED]

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark

Call your lawyer and ask him to explain the strategy. It's brilliant, and it's been done before.



Even if Trump won fair and square, don't you think that the idea of a Russian attempt to sway the election should be investigated?

I still dont even understand in what way they supposively influenced the election. I just know a bunch of rich fucks are getting paid to sit on their asses while the working class gets poorer. I sure as fuck wasn't influenced by Russians. I was influenced by all the violence from the Anti Trumpers at his rallies and bullshit stories like "Trump eats fried chicken with a fork". Cheating Bernie Sanders out of the primary was just icing on the cake.

[Rochard]

Seems now that Roger Stone is the "unnamed individual" in the indictments today....

The indictment states that on August 15, 2016, and again on September 9, Russian officers posing as Guccifer 2.0 "wrote a person who was in regular contact with senior members" of the Trump campaign, with language that matches Twitter messages previously released by Stone, who is not named in the indictment.

Isn't this direct collusion with the Russian government?

I mean... Roger Stone was in direct communication with Trump, and Roger Stone was directly in contact with "Russian Officers" so.....

The indictment states that on August 15, 2016, and again on September 9, Russian officers posing as Guccifer 2.0 "wrote a person who was in regular contact with senior members" of the Trump campaign, with language that matches Twitter messages previously released by Stone, who is not named in the indictment.

This is so much fun.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/polit...aks/index.html

[RedFred]

Originally Posted by GFED

I still dont even understand in what way they supposively influenced the election.

[xClips Jim]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Isn't this direct collusion with the Russian government?

Once again - it is no surprise why things are not understood.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Seems now that Roger Stone is the "unnamed individual" in the indictments today....

The indictment states that on August 15, 2016, and again on September 9, Russian officers posing as Guccifer 2.0 "wrote a person who was in regular contact with senior members" of the Trump campaign, with language that matches Twitter messages previously released by Stone, who is not named in the indictment.

Isn't this direct collusion with the Russian government?

I mean... Roger Stone was in direct communication with Trump, and Roger Stone was directly in contact with "Russian Officers" so.....

The indictment states that on August 15, 2016, and again on September 9, Russian officers posing as Guccifer 2.0 "wrote a person who was in regular contact with senior members" of the Trump campaign, with language that matches Twitter messages previously released by Stone, who is not named in the indictment.

This is so much fun.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/13/polit...aks/index.html

If I send you an email did you just collude with me or did I just send you an email? When Nigerians send you an email needing to place their inheritance with you are you now complicit in whatever scam they are pulling? Since someone on the DNC server clicked the phish link does that make them a conspirator?

[OneHungLo]

No "So Russia did this" image in here yet?...





This thread wouldn't be complete without this lol

[baddog]

Originally Posted by GFED

Yes I remember watching the debate when he said it. He was being sarcastic. They took that out of centext just like everything else he said when he was running. That's why people turned against the liberal media and voted for him. Also all the violence from BLM and Antifa, and cheating Bernie Sanders didn't help.

Hmm, just got home and was listening to NPR radio as I normally do; could have sworn THEY said Trump asked for the info the DAY it was released that the damn Ruskies might have gotten into the DNC servers; after the fact.