Trump to give $12 billion in aid to farmers hurt by his trade war - GoFuckYourself.com

RedFred · 07-24-2018, 09:39 AM

More winning from socialist Trump and his fucked up policies.

The Trump administration on Tuesday plans to announce aid for U.S. farmers to help protect them from the repercussions of trade spats between the United States and China, the European Union and others, a source familiar with the plan told Reuters.

The Washington Post earlier reported that the White House was readying $12 billion in assistance, citing two people familiar with the plan.

Trump defended his trade actions earlier on Tuesday.

“Tariffs are the greatest!" he wrote on Twitter.

#ThanksObama

directfiesta · 07-24-2018, 09:45 AM

Then he complaind about Canada ...

What is that 12 billion, if not a subvention ....

BTW, GOP's , can you tell me what expenses he cut to get that 12 billions ( like under Obama ) or is it deficit financed ?

Bladewire · 07-24-2018, 09:48 AM

Corporate socialism personified

Taxpayers paying for the consequences if Trump's self imposed tradeware on American businesses.

Trump supporters hated Obama for his financial crisis bailouts, they said it should be survival of the fittest (which I agree with) let's see if they give Trump the same treatment.....

RedFred · 07-24-2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

BTW, GOP's , can you tell me what expenses he cut to get that 12 billions ( like under Obama ) or is it deficit financed ?

Got to be the deficit. They already cut food stamps so Trump could get a few more rounds of golf in.

Bladewire · 07-24-2018, 09:57 AM

Rochard · 07-24-2018, 10:10 AM

So food stamps and housing assistance is a hand out, but $12 billion to farmers is.... not a hand out?

Where does this $12 billion go? Do we pay farmers not to farm? Do we buy their product and just destroy it?

Trump started a trade war for no reason, and then spent $12 billion to unfuck it? Nice.

crockett · 07-24-2018, 10:50 AM

BRB, I'm starting a farm..

BaldBastard · 07-24-2018, 11:18 AM

Just wait for the long term fucking

Say sanctions get taken off..

Foreign markets have already found new sources for what they were buying from you, unless you drastically drop the price.. you don't get back in.

Its the double whammy fucky that has long term implications.

USA is no longer a stable trading partner.. better to look at other more stable sources.

China thanks America...

What the foreign alts here better wise up to is that Trump said he thought it would be a good idea to devalue the American dollar.

beerptrol · 07-24-2018, 11:34 AM

I just used my two Farmville farms to apply for bailout! Haven't logged in for a few years and it needs the money!

I'll have Putin's 5th cousin 10 times removed, sign a letter of reference!

RedFred · 07-24-2018, 11:40 AM

Funny how according to Trumpers this is the best economy ever and we're already having to bail out farms.

crockett · 07-24-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Just wait for the long term fucking

Say sanctions get taken off..

Foreign markets have already found new sources for what they were buying from you, unless you drastically drop the price.. you don't get back in.

Its the double whammy fucky that has long term implications.

USA is no longer a stable trading partner.. better to look at other more stable sources.

China thanks America...

What the foreign alts here better wise up to is that Trump said he thought it would be a good idea to devalue the American dollar.

Yes, everyone who is not a Trump Dunce understands this..

crockett · 07-24-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

Funny how according to Trumpers this is the best economy ever and we're already having to bail out farms.

Thanks Obama!

RedFred · 07-24-2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Thanks Obama!

I seriously think Trump has been warned an economic collapse is a very real possibility. Why else would he have been whining about the Federal Reserve raising interest rates. He's setting the stage so when/if it happens he can blame them and say 'see? I told you raising the rates was a bad thing'

dyna mo · 07-24-2018, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Just wait for the long term fucking

Say sanctions get taken off..

Foreign markets have already found new sources for what they were buying from you, unless you drastically drop the price.. you don't get back in.

Its the double whammy fucky that has long term implications.

USA is no longer a stable trading partner.. better to look at other more stable sources.

China thanks America...

What the foreign alts here better wise up to is that Trump said he thought it would be a good idea to devalue the American dollar.

heads up: China is our #1 ag importer. who are they buying from now instead of USA?

canada and mexico are 2 & 3, all combined = ~80% of our ag exports.

what ag deals has Mex and ca done to replace US agriculture?

china thanks America for what? they can't even meet their own ag demands let alone pick up what we sell to ca and mex.

dyna mo · 07-24-2018, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

good idea to devalue the American dollar.

where on earth is the dollar devalued?

crockett · 07-24-2018, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred

I seriously think Trump has been warned an economic collapse is a very real possibility. Why else would he have been whining about the Federal Reserve raising interest rates. He's setting the stage so when/if it happens he can blame them and say 'see? I told you raising the rates was a bad thing'

He doesn't even have to set the stage. His cult following (aka Republicans) will accept anything he says.

Bladewire · 07-24-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedFred

I seriously think Trump has been warned an economic collapse is a very real possibility. Why else would he have been whining about the Federal Reserve raising interest rates. He's setting the stage so when/if it happens he can blame them and say 'see? I told you raising the rates was a bad thing'

Under 8 years of Obama, the fed raised rates 1 time.

Under 18 months of Trump, the fed has raised rates 6 times, and say they will raise another 4 times in the next 6 months.

The fed raises rates to fight inflation. The 1% are taking in trillions by raising the cost of living in every market wiping away the measly tax decrease. The cost if gas alone has gone up 20% - 30% depending on where you live.

TheSquealer · 07-24-2018, 12:53 PM

"citing 2 anonymous sources."

sounds legit.

Google Expert · 07-24-2018, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedFred

More winning from socialist Trump and his fucked up policies.

The Trump administration on Tuesday plans to announce aid for U.S. farmers to help protect them from the repercussions of trade spats between the United States and China, the European Union and others, a source familiar with the plan told Reuters.

The Washington Post earlier reported that the White House was readying $12 billion in assistance, citing two people familiar with the plan.

Trump defended his trade actions earlier on Tuesday.

“Tariffs are the greatest!" he wrote on Twitter.

#ThanksObama

OP, why do you hate America?

Google Expert · 07-24-2018, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Just wait for the long term fucking

Say sanctions get taken off..

Foreign markets have already found new sources for what they were buying from you, unless you drastically drop the price.. you don't get back in.

Its the double whammy fucky that has long term implications.

USA is no longer a stable trading partner.. better to look at other more stable sources.

China thanks America...

What the foreign alts here better wise up to is that Trump said he thought it would be a good idea to devalue the American dollar.

We don’t need trade partners. They need us. Trump is simply forcing a trade reset. It’s like a self-imposed embargo. Eventually they will cave and then we will make trade deals that are beneficial.

Also, socialist handouts for US farmers are comparatively small:

crockett · 07-24-2018, 01:20 PM

btw, the "Trump truth" about all this, is farmers wont see shit.. Trump does this constantly, claims he's gonna give this group or that group money for this or that and then he never follows through.. It's just like the wall.. Congress can't get anything funded because they have spent all the money already..

Bladewire · 07-24-2018, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert

We don’t need trade partners. They need us.

Holy fuck you are completely ignorant to world trade structure.

Farmers are fucked because THEY DON'T NEED US

They just buy from South America, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc. This is going to be a boon for Venezuela.

Google Expert · 07-24-2018, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

This is a boon for Venezuela.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-imf-forecasts

Bladewire · 07-24-2018, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Google Expert

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-imf-forecasts

Nothing to do with Trump's Tarrifs and the produce industry.

Congratulations on showing your ignorance, yet again.

MaDalton · 07-24-2018, 02:24 PM

so Obama bad cause he bailed out the car industry during a world economy collapse but Trump good because he bails out farmers in a crisis he caused himself. got it.

TheSquealer · 07-24-2018, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by StefanG

so Obama bad cause he bailed out the car industry during a world economy collapse but Trump good because he bails out farmers in a crisis he caused himself. got it.

terminally uninformed German = bad

astronaut x · 07-24-2018, 03:04 PM

12 billion of YOUR tax dollars.

Bladewire · 07-24-2018, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StefanG

so Obama bad cause he bailed out the car industry during a world economy collapse but Trump good because he bails out farmers in a crisis he caused himself. got it.

100% correct

The Dunning-Kruger Effect

TheSquealer · 07-24-2018, 03:08 PM

The Washington Post and NY Times seem to have only bad news about Trump day in and day out and for some reason, it nearly all seems to come from "anonymous sources". Strange. You'd think people would be interested in verifiable facts so that they could actually make a decent argument for or against a point and not be obsessed with mindless, unsubstantiated propaganda for societies lowest common denominator.

I don't think any farmers will be showing up to Washington in fleets of G5's and be staying at 5 star hotels like the automaker execs, running horrible businesses that were dying of their own doing, did.

Rochard · 07-24-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

heads up: China is our #1 ag importer. who are they buying from now instead of USA?

Everyone who is a member of the TTP. Which are are not a part of. LOL.

dyna mo · 07-24-2018, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Everyone who is a member of the TTP. Which are are not a part of. LOL.

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

you couldn't provide 1 link to backup your ridiculous claim.

MaDalton · 07-24-2018, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

terminally uninformed German = bad

time will tell - either I have it wrong or you are a Trump bootlicker

directfiesta · 07-24-2018, 04:13 PM

Was time to refill the wine cupboard ( no, not a big playa with a wine cellar , an amazing dining table and and Impala ( cop car ) in the garage ...

) .

About 30 bottles ..... I normally go by the California row where I take some Coppola , Berringer , Carnivor , etc .... Maybe 1/3 of the order .

This time : niet , not a single fucking USA made bottle ... Italy, France, Australia, South America, Chile ... but no USA ... and this is a trend here ... we see the USA as a foe ... as they see us as a national security risk ....

Bladewire · 07-24-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

The Washington Post and NY Times seem to have only bad news about Trump day in and day out and for some reason, it nearly all seems to come from "anonymous sources".

You don't have to lie unless your too stupid to debate the truth, although facts aren't debatable, but you continue to try, day in day out. "Everything's great" biggly!

What country are you from again?

poncabare · 07-24-2018, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bladewire

You don't have to lie unless your too stupid to debate the truth, although facts aren't debatable, but you continue to try, day in day out. "Everything's great" biggly!

What country are you from?

Another see I told you so thread...

beerptrol · 07-24-2018, 06:06 PM

Lil Joe Bob living in the hills of Kentucky won't be getting medicare, or any other service because the farmers need that tax payer money more. Not to mention the wealthy need more tax cuts
His little ass has to sacrifice for the benefit of those that don't need it.

Aren't trade wars great!! MAGA

Rochard · 07-24-2018, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

you couldn't provide 1 link to backup your ridiculous claim.

My lord you have zero sense of humor.

dyna mo · 07-24-2018, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

My lord you have zero sense of humor.

I'm not the sort to laugh at ignorant people when they challenge a factual post.

dyna mo · 07-24-2018, 06:20 PM

what i did find funny was how naive it is to think any country (in the now defunct tpp agreement) could just all the sudden start farming wtfever it wanted to and instantly meet agriculture demand.

so yeah -

TheSquealer · 07-24-2018, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire

You don't have to lie unless your too stupid to debate the truth, although facts aren't debatable, but you continue to try, day in day out. "Everything's great" biggly!

What country are you from again?

There is nothing to lie about. I get headlines daily on my phone and read through them all the time. Always anti-Trump news, always using the least flattering pictures possible (like children) and usually citing "anonymous sources" with really controversial claims.

But don't let facts kill your narrative.

kane · 07-24-2018, 06:49 PM

Let's not worry. I'm sure the people who supported Trump will politely decline the money explaining how this is socialism and they are opposed to that.

BaldBastard · 07-24-2018, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

There is nothing to lie about. I get headlines daily on my phone and read through them all the time. Always anti-Trump news, always using the least flattering pictures possible (like children) and usually citing "anonymous sources" with really controversial claims.

But don't let facts kill your narrative.

Maybe you need Foxnews to spell it out for you

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...elfare-kennedy

Trump's trade war is economic suicide | Fox News

Eu and Japans deal starts next year, TTP2 deal starts next year

America has been left out on both, China is not negotiating with you.. just finding/ creating new sources. Trump has fucked the USA not for the term of his presidency.. but for the long term, all he's been able to do.. Is sell weapons to more rogue countries... creating more problems later on.

And the thing that's the most crazy of all of this, "to me" is Trump was the exact guy to fix America's trade imbalances, and he could of done that by threatening no one.

All he had to do was stand up there and drive home the message.. Buy American Hire American, But no, he's not moved a single product he or his family makes to back to America and for every time he's said buy America, he's said one hundred times.. There was no collusion, fake news, crooked Hillary or but but but.. Obama

USA is being run into the ground by a nutter, more concerned about personal vendettas and appeasing the worlds dictators than your country. Lap it up and get used to it, because the damage being done will FAR exceed the life of his presidency.

Rochard · 07-24-2018, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

Maybe you need Foxnews to spell it out for you

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...elfare-kennedy

Trump's trade war is economic suicide | Fox News

Eu and Japans deal starts next year, TTP2 deal starts next year

America has been left out on both, China is not negotiating with you.. just finding/ creating new sources. Trump has fucked the USA not for the term of his presidency.. but for the long term, all he's been able to do.. Is sell weapons to more rogue countries... creating more problems later on.

And the thing that's the most crazy of all of this, "to me" is Trump was the exact guy to fix America's trade imbalances, and he could of done that by threatening no one.

All he had to do was stand up there and drive home the message.. Buy American Hire American, But no, he's not moved a single product he or his family makes to back to America and for every time he's said buy America, he's said one hundred times.. There was no collusion, fake news, crooked Hillary or but but but.. Obama

I think Fox News is coming around to reality. They just figured out how bad it is.

It's one thing to support the party candidate, but it's another thing to support an out of control madman.

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Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 73,062	So food stamps and housing assistance is a hand out, but $12 billion to farmers is.... not a hand out? Where does this $12 billion go? Do we pay farmers not to farm? Do we buy their product and just destroy it? Trump started a trade war for no reason, and then spent $12 billion to unfuck it? Nice. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	BRB, I'm starting a farm.. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

07-24-2018, 11:34 AM	#9
beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	I just used my two Farmville farms to apply for bailout! Haven't logged in for a few years and it needs the money! I'll have Putin's 5th cousin 10 times removed, sign a letter of reference! __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,093	"citing 2 anonymous sources." sounds legit. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

07-24-2018, 09:39 AM	#1
RedFred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 9,782	Trump to give $12 billion in aid to farmers hurt by his trade war More winning from socialist Trump and his fucked up policies. The Trump administration on Tuesday plans to announce aid for U.S. farmers to help protect them from the repercussions of trade spats between the United States and China, the European Union and others, a source familiar with the plan told Reuters. The Washington Post earlier reported that the White House was readying $12 billion in assistance, citing two people familiar with the plan. Trump defended his trade actions earlier on Tuesday. “Tariffs are the greatest!" he wrote on Twitter. #ThanksObama

07-24-2018, 09:45 AM	#2
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,586	Then he complaind about Canada ... What is that 12 billion, if not a subvention .... BTW, GOP's , can you tell me what expenses he cut to get that 12 billions ( like under Obama ) or is it deficit financed ?

07-24-2018, 09:48 AM	#3
Bladewire StraightBro Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Monarch Beach, CA USA Posts: 56,229	Corporate socialism personified Taxpayers paying for the consequences if Trump's self imposed tradeware on American businesses. Trump supporters hated Obama for his financial crisis bailouts, they said it should be survival of the fittest (which I agree with) let's see if they give Trump the same treatment.....

07-24-2018, 11:18 AM	#8
BaldBastard Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sydney Posts: 15,921	Just wait for the long term fucking Say sanctions get taken off.. Foreign markets have already found new sources for what they were buying from you, unless you drastically drop the price.. you don't get back in. Its the double whammy fucky that has long term implications. USA is no longer a stable trading partner.. better to look at other more stable sources. China thanks America... What the foreign alts here better wise up to is that Trump said he thought it would be a good idea to devalue the American dollar.

07-24-2018, 11:40 AM	#10
RedFred Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 9,782	Funny how according to Trumpers this is the best economy ever and we're already having to bail out farms.

07-24-2018, 01:20 PM	#21
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	btw, the "Trump truth" about all this, is farmers wont see shit.. Trump does this constantly, claims he's gonna give this group or that group money for this or that and then he never follows through.. It's just like the wall.. Congress can't get anything funded because they have spent all the money already.. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,822	so Obama bad cause he bailed out the car industry during a world economy collapse but Trump good because he bails out farmers in a crisis he caused himself. got it. __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

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astronaut x Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: From this www and beyond! Posts: 4,844	12 billion of YOUR tax dollars.

07-24-2018, 03:08 PM	#29
TheSquealer BANNED Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In Your Head Posts: 25,093	The Washington Post and NY Times seem to have only bad news about Trump day in and day out and for some reason, it nearly all seems to come from "anonymous sources". Strange. You'd think people would be interested in verifiable facts so that they could actually make a decent argument for or against a point and not be obsessed with mindless, unsubstantiated propaganda for societies lowest common denominator. I don't think any farmers will be showing up to Washington in fleets of G5's and be staying at 5 star hotels like the automaker execs, running horrible businesses that were dying of their own doing, did. __________________ . Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens. Rochard

07-24-2018, 04:13 PM	#33
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Punta Cana, DR Posts: 29,586	Was time to refill the wine cupboard ( no, not a big playa with a wine cellar , an amazing dining table and and Impala ( cop car ) in the garage ... ) . About 30 bottles ..... I normally go by the California row where I take some Coppola , Berringer , Carnivor , etc .... Maybe 1/3 of the order . This time : niet , not a single fucking USA made bottle ... Italy, France, Australia, South America, Chile ... but no USA ... and this is a trend here ... we see the USA as a foe ... as they see us as a national security risk ....

07-24-2018, 06:06 PM	#36
beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	Lil Joe Bob living in the hills of Kentucky won't be getting medicare, or any other service because the farmers need that tax payer money more. Not to mention the wealthy need more tax cuts His little ass has to sacrifice for the benefit of those that don't need it. Aren't trade wars great!! MAGA __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 63,943	what i did find funny was how naive it is to think any country (in the now defunct tpp agreement) could just all the sudden start farming wtfever it wanted to and instantly meet agriculture demand. so yeah -

07-24-2018, 06:49 PM	#41
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Let's not worry. I'm sure the people who supported Trump will politely decline the money explaining how this is socialism and they are opposed to that.