Blacks take back their farmland from whites in Africa - Trump does nothing

[Bladewire]

"A 2017 government audit found white people owned 72 per cent of private farmland in South Africa. According to the 2011 census, there are about 4.6 million white people in South Africa, accounting for 8.9 per cent of the population."

" While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million)."

South Africa begins seizing white-owned farms

Local newspaper City Press reports two game farms in the northern province of Limpopo are the first to be targeted for unilateral seizure after negotiations with the owners to purchase the properties stalled.

While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million).

“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” a letter sent to the owners earlier this year said.

Akkerland Boerdery obtained an urgent injunction to prevent eviction until a court had ruled on the issue, but the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs is opposing the application.

“What makes the Akkerland case unique is that they apparently were not given the opportunity to first dispute the claim in court, as the law requires,” AgriSA union spokeswoman Annelize Crosby told the paper.

It comes as the South African government pushes ahead with plans to amend the country’s constitution to allow for the expropriation of land without compensation.

The seizures are intended to test the ability of the government to take land under existing laws, which the ruling African National Congress has previously stated is allowable if “in the public interest”.

Earlier this month, City Press reported the government had drawn up a list of 139 farms it planned to seize “to test out” section 25 of the constitution.

The newspaper said employees at the department had been ordered to press ahead with the process at the Land Claims Court.

If the seizures go ahead, it would be the first time the state refuses to pay market value for land. Since the end of apartheid in 1994, the ANC has followed a “willing seller, willing buyer” process to redistribute white-owned farms to blacks.

A 2017 government audit found white people owned 72 per cent of private farmland in South Africa. According to the 2011 census, there are about 4.6 million white people in South Africa, accounting for 8.9 per cent of the population.

African National Congress spokesman Zizi Kodwa would not reveal details of the farms targeted and attempted to play down investor fears, saying the proposed seizures were “tied to addressing the injustices of the past”.

“Over time I think the markets as well as investors will appreciate that what we are doing is creating policy certainty and creating the conditions for future investment,” he told City Press.

Afriforum, a civil-rights group representing the white Afrikaner minority, subsequently released what it claimed to be a leaked list of 190 farms “being circulated in the department”, inviting farmers to check if they were on it and asking them to get in touch “so that we can prepare for a joint legal strategy”.

The government hit back, with department spokeswoman Linda Page telling News24 the list was a fake. “We don’t know where they got it from,” she said. “There is no truth to this document.”

News24 editor-in-chief Adriaan Basson slammed Afriforum for “disgusting fearmongering in the highest degree”. “Will Afriforum take action against (deputy CEO) Ernst Roets for distributing fake news?” he tweeted. “Will they apologise? We need cool heads — not arsonists — in this debate.”

On Sunday, Mr Roets tweeted that the two farms — Salaita and Lukin — were the first two names on Afriforum’s list.

“So the debate about the authenticity of the list is settled then?” he said. “We hope that the gravity of the state’s plans for expropriation is understood and that people will see through the dishonesty of the Department of Land Reform and Rural Development.

“We hope that the attempts to discredit the legitimacy of the list has now been proven to be malicious for good. We shouldn’t be misled by those who sing Kumbaya while the state is planning to expropriate property.”

AgriSA had described Afriforum’s release of the list as “irresponsible” and “inflammatory”, saying “cursory background research showed” several inaccuracies, including that a number of the farms were joint ventures co-owned by black people.

Earlier this month, cattle farmer Jo-an Engelbrecht told the ABC’s Foreign Correspondent his farm just outside Johannesburg was now “worth zero”.

“We had several auctions in the last two or three weeks cancelled because there was no people interested in buying the land,” he said. “Why would you buy a farm to know the government’s going to take it?”

[huey]

Zimbabwe 2.0

[Bladewire]

Trump is all talk no action when it comes to his white power agenda. Letting blacks take land & businesses from the whites Trump should be ashamed of himself.

[imabro]

Why the fuck should Trump get involved?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by huey

Zimbabwe 2.0

...2.01

[Bladewire]

Not even a tweet from Trump about this. Trump conveniently ignores the white crisis in Africa after bombing Syria for a few kids bring gassed by Russia.

[BaldBastard]

hang on read it with a clear head keeping in mind SA has 35000+ farms down from 120,000 in 1994.

The list seems like propaganda so forget that

reality is the government so far has named two farms

Two game farms in Limpopo " GAME FARMS "

Both are known as "luxury hunting farms"

These are the places where cunts like Trump Jnr go to hunt African animals. The land is being rezoned national parks.


Even if the Government did close down 150 farms its still less than 1% and I'd bet there's a fucking lot more of South African farms that were claimed at the end of a gun than any due process.

White man scare mongering propaganda so far by alt right gun nuts...

Show me a when a real farmer loses his land..

[blackmonsters]

Easy come easy go.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Easy come easy go.

Next step is they'll enslave the whites to work the farms. Trump will say & do nothing as this happens.

[imabro]

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Next step is they'll enslave the whites to work the farms. Trump will say & do nothing as this happens.

AIDS is rotting your brain cells.

[Bladewire]

Trump supporters don't care that Trump does nothing as Africa takes over the whites and takes their land.

[imabro]

Why would any American want Trump to get involved?

You must be Russian.

[Matt 26z]

The whites need to just leave the country and let those hahahahahahas starve to death. And that is exactly what would happen without whitey around to feed them.

[chaze]

I think the point is to worry about the US and not police the world. Not saying it's right or wrong but I know that was a big part of his campaign.

[Bladewire]

[Paul_Matthews]

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard

hang on read it with a clear head keeping in mind SA has 35000+ farms down from 120,000 in 1994.

The list seems like propaganda so forget that

reality is the government so far has named two farms

Two game farms in Limpopo " GAME FARMS "

Both are known as "luxury hunting farms"

These are the places where cunts like Trump Jnr go to hunt African animals. The land is being rezoned national parks.


Even if the Government did close down 150 farms its still less than 1% and I'd bet there's a fucking lot more of South African farms that were claimed at the end of a gun than any due process.

White man scare mongering propaganda so far by alt right gun nuts...

Show me a when a real farmer loses his land..

Dude, you know absolutely nothing about this and your sycophants around you have been feeding you whatever you are most likely to respond positively to.

Game farms are on that list because they are lucrative and don't need as many skills as traditional farming. Ramaphosa himself bids and sells game (like bidding $2millionUSD on a buffalo and selling 3 impala for $2.6millionUSD). And big game hunters are essential for conservation, so don't even try that angle!

As a South African who has had family land expropriated in South Africa, I can absolutely tell you this is a real and genuine process that is happening. Previously there was the willing seller program and historic land claims etc. They would audit land value and then pay a percentage of that, but it was a forced purchase. So even though they paid way below actual value and also didn't take many of the assets into account, the "seller" didn't really have a choice.

Non-saffas don't seem to understand the level of cronyism and nepotism that is rife in South Africa.

Here is just one of a multitude of examples.
https://www.thesouthafrican.com/thri...ake-ownership/

I mean, even public services are being stripped bare by the corruption that is rife and seemingly endemic. Funds are siphoned off in their billions, and little to no service delivery happens. You're probably thinking there is just some skimming off the top... but no. Entire funding amounts are getting stolen! So often there is literally NOTHING to show for billions of rands of public money.

That list of initial farms leaked had the game farms as the top 2 on that list. And these are just test cases on that list, I'll hasten to add. Once the constitution is amended, each province will go crazy with land expropriation. Oh, and it's not just farmland... it's ANY land, which includes residential homes and commercial land.

The constitutional amendment will stipulate private land and not white owned land, which is an important thing to note. This will mean that at a later stage, any dissidents who own land could get their property taken, with any plausible excuse fabricated to make it "in the people's interest"

I don't really know why Trump would be bothered with these major South African issues, but I welcome any and all help that could help bring the country back on track.

[pimpmaster9000]

The blacks actually have the gall to ask for their own land from their former oppressors in their own country...what an injustice...

The white man went to all the bother of making the black man build everything, in exchange for a whipping, and now the black man wants his own land and the products of his own work...what an injustice...

Why on earth would anybody want their own shit back if he is black?

Trump should do something...maybe bomb iraq again...

White man logic is so amusing lol

[celandina]

Wait until the natives will get Manhattan at al back....
Never mind all of US land...same principle as S. Africa....

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

White man logic is so amusing lol

Especially when it sends your relatives to summer camp.

[GFED]

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by crucifissio

The blacks actually have the gall to ask for their own land from their former oppressors in their own country...what an injustice...

It's not their land. Blacks weren't living that far south when the Boers arrived.

And if you say 'muh apartheid', well I guess the reason for muh apartheid was to avert a situation like this. I wasn't sympathetic to the Boers at the time of apartheid, but I am now.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Easy come easy go.

Good to know where you stand.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by Paul_Matthews

I don't really know why Trump would be bothered with these major South African issues, but I welcome any and all help that could help bring the country back on track.

Because Trump is a racist and is working hard in America to disenfranchise non whites in any way possible.

[Bladewire]

So today Trump tweets about it... but does nothing

[SBJ]

why the hell would he do anything about it?? He is pres of the USA and last time I checked Africa isn't part of USA..

[Matt 26z]

US liberal media is trying to say the farmer killings aren't happening.

[Bladewire]

Originally Posted by SBJ

why the hell would he do anything about it?? He is pres of the USA and last time I checked Africa isn't part of USA..

Ask Trump, he's the one who wants to intervene. Trump's the one inserting himself in South Africas issues

[lock]

President of the world now.

[celandina]

Originally Posted by lock

President of the world now.

He is confusing one shit country with another....it has Africa in its name after all

[SIK]

Originally Posted by Paul_Matthews

I don't really know why Trump would be bothered with these major South African issues, but I welcome any and all help that could help bring the country back on track.

Sorry but you're obviously lying.
Huffington post says it is all a white supremacist myth and conspiracy and they ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0729515115d9d





Just kidding of course, anyone reading and believing huffington post got brain damage.

[dyna mo]

white supremacists are high-5ing trump for this tweet.

Originally Posted by Bladewire

Ask Trump, he's the one who wants to intervene. Trump's the one inserting himself in South Africas issues

[JFK]

Originally Posted by celandina

...2.01

We be RICH !

[ruff]

Originally Posted by celandina

...2.01

I'm sticking with Bitcoin.

[oppoten]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

white supremacists are high-5ing trump for this tweet.

[SIK]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

white supremacists are high-5ing trump for this tweet.

shouldn't EVERY normal person "high five" him for trying to help people in need?

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by oppoten

It's not their land. Blacks weren't living that far south when the Boers arrived.

And if you say 'muh apartheid', well I guess the reason for muh apartheid was to avert a situation like this. I wasn't sympathetic to the Boers at the time of apartheid, but I am now.

Oh so white history says black people were not living there before the whites? That makes so much sence...and the slave labor used by the boers to build 100% of what they have must have given them sore elbows from all the whipping...

White man history and hand wash is hillarious...it seems as though the white man is immune to any guilt or responsibility in africa...

[TubeSubmitters]

Trump is president of the USA not South Africa...

[pimpmaster9000]

The USA should bomb iraq again just to keep america safe from black farmers wanting their own land!

[Tasty1]

The Black south africans had it bad under 'apartheid'. And most still have a bad live while the mining companies take the profit out of the land with the help of the white south africans and corrupt black politicians. Classic clash.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SIK

shouldn't EVERY normal person "high five" him for trying to help people in need?

No.

Normal people's views don't align with white supremacist's views.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by oppoten

I struck a nerve with a gfy white supremist. Good.

[ghjghj]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Normal people's views don't align with white supremacist's views.

Sure they do

[dyna mo]

only white supremacists think that.

[SIK]

Originally Posted by SIK

shouldn't EVERY normal person "high five" him for trying to help people in need?

Originally Posted by dyna mo

No.

Normal people's views don't align with white supremacist's views.

Help me understand please..

So.. corruption of black government in SAR is causing white people to lose land and confirmed stats say they are also a lot of killing going on on farms. (new york times wrote about it, that isn't alt right news).

Helping those white farmers would be white supremacy, just because they need rescue from black people?

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by SIK

Help me understand please..

So.. corruption of black government in SAR is causing white people to lose land and confirmed stats say they are also a lot of killing going on on farms. (new york times wrote about it, that isn't alt right news).

Helping those white farmers would be white supremacy, just because they need rescue from black people?

trump doesn't give 1 single shit about white farmers in safrica.

he made that tweet to be divisive and rile up his white supremist base. I'm speaking to that fact and that known white supremists applauded that tweet.

[SIK]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

trump doesn't give 1 single shit about white farmers in safrica.

he made that tweet to be divisive and rile up his white supremist base. I'm speaking to that fact and that known white supremists applauded that tweet.

Still trying to figure out your leftist train of thought..... bare with me please

So.. people are dying and their property is being taken, but Trump SHOULD NOT mention that because since it is black vs white conflict, white supremacists will like it and therefore it will cause division?

If so, it once again leads me to the question - shouldn't ALL people like the fact that people in desperate need are being helped?

Would it be divisive if it was whites starting up apartheid again and he wants to help the blacks remain equal?

Seems to me like ANYTHING can be considered as divisive.

[dyna mo]

I'm not shocked a white supremist fails to grasp a liberal viewpoint.

[SIK]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

I'm not shocked a white supremist fails to grasp a liberal viewpoint.

Help me grasp it, please.

[King Mark]

Yeah, i fail to see why trump would care about this... thats south africas local problem... blacks here aint going to do that. They aint native here or get they farmland stolen here. They were systematically not allowed to own much of anything here. They were kidnapped, enslaved for generations then stuffed into the unwanted places here... now those unwanted places are wanted and theyre getting stuffed into the outskirts. Totally different situation. Plus, if trump showed interest in this, it would raise awareness here... which cletus, norm and billy-mae dont want...

[Sarn]

>Blacks take back their farmland from whites in Africa - Trump does nothing
Trump must send back for them Obama