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Old 12-10-2018, 09:04 AM   #1
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Imprisoned Russian agent Maria Butina pleads guilty of conspiring against the U.S.

So she's pleading guilty of conspiring against the U.S. since 2015 and acting as an agent of a foreign government.

Nothing to see here, no collussion right? stupid tRumplestiltskins!
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Imprisoned Russian agent Maria Butina pleads guilty of conspiring against the U.S.

Lawyers for accused Russian agent Maria Butina and prosecutors overseeing the case asked a federal judge on Monday to schedule a court hearing this week so that she can change her plea, according to a joint court filing.
The filing comes after Butina's attorney and prosecutors revealed last month they were actively in talks to settle the case. Butina had previously pleaded not guilty to charges that she was acting as an agent of the Russian government and conspiring to take actions on Russia's behalf.
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Go back in time a little and have a read ;)

Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-630054/



btw she's kinda hot



Expect the NRA and GOP now to go into melt down with trump
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Go back in time a little and have a read ;)

Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-630054/



btw she's kinda hot

Expect the NRA and GOP now to go into melt down with trump
That was a great article

And now she's openly pleading guilty. It'll be interesting to see what information she gives Mueller.
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I believe, at this point, Trump was a useful idiot for the Russians, and is a useless idiot for us.

Trump got to feel like he's super villain smart important notorious man for a while... Party's almost over tho.
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That was a great article

And now she's openly pleading guilty. It'll be interesting to see what information she gives Mueller.
This could go very deep.. she's pleading guilty.

Maybe read what those charges were:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...80766/download
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This could go very deep.. she's pleading guilty.

Maybe read what those charges were:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...80766/download
That was a good read.

Interesting conversation they included between her and a "Russian official":

BUTINA: Time will tell. We made our bet. I am following our game. I will be connecting the people from the prayer breakfast to this group. Most importantly, you get better. Everything else we will win.

RUSSIAN OFFICIAL: No doubt! Of course we will win, but I (you are right) need to beat the illness first and get out of the hospital (I made an attempt today - it didn't work). And it is not about winning today's fight (although we are striving for it) but to win the entire battle. This is the battle for the future, it cannot be lost! Or everyone will lose.

BUTINA: True! But don't try to get out right now: the doctors ordered you to stay for a reason. Better finish the treatment. Please do not risk it. You have a key role and you know it. I will not manage without you.

RUSSIAN OFFICIAL: No! This is a mistake. Your political star has risen in the sky. Now it is important to rise to the zenith and not bum out (fall) prematurely.

BUTINA: Oh well. I am just starting in this field. I still have to learn and learn from you! These are not just words! Harsh and impetuous moves will ruin everything early.

RUSSIAN OFFICIAL: This is hard to teach. Patience and cold blood + faith in yourself. And everything will definitely turn out.
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The NRA fell hook line and sinker for it.
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The NRA fell hook line and sinker for it.
You have to wonder how long Putin has been controlling the NRA and what politicians the NRA bought off.

My guess is these 7 are some he bought off

Seven GOP lawmakers make a misguided trip to Russia on 4th of July

Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.)

Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.)

Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)

Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.)

Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.)

Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas)

And Rand Paul

Sen. Rand Paul goes to Moscow and invites Russians to Washington
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… and the National Prayer Breakfast connections. ;)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/18/o...iltration.html
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This could go very deep.. she's pleading guilty.

Maybe read what those charges were:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-re...80766/download
I told you guys when this all started that the GOP was taking Russian money for their campaigns..
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the NRA is going down!!!!!Fucking traitors.
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Maria Butina is the Russian woman asking this question ;)


So a gun rights activist who was previously the personal assistant of Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank and a close Putin ally, just by chance gets a question ahead of reporters, where Trump tells his Russian Sanctions Policy...….
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the NRA is going down!!!!!Fucking traitors.
Isn't it ironic that Tre45on



Trump = 45th president..
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Maria Butina is the Russian woman asking this question ;)

So a gun rights activist who was previously the personal assistant of Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank and a close Putin ally, just by chance gets a question ahead of reporters, where Trump tells his Russian Sanctions Policy...….
No collussion!!!!!
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Maria Butina is the Russian woman asking this question ;)


So a gun rights activist who was previously the personal assistant of Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank and a close Putin ally, just by chance gets a question ahead of reporters, where Trump tells his Russian Sanctions Policy...….
...but..but. the liberal media! Hillary emails.. Benghazi!
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This could go very deep.

I could go balls deep into that !
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You have to wonder how long Putin has been controlling the NRA and what politicians the NRA bought off.

My guess is these 7 are some he bought off

Seven GOP lawmakers make a misguided trip to Russia on 4th of July

Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.)

Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.)

Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.)

Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.)

Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.)

Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.)

Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas)

And Rand Paul

Sen. Rand Paul goes to Moscow and invites Russians to Washington
You forgot Mitch McConnell !
I think it may explain some of his actions.
But I don't care if half are dem's... they must go if implicated. Jail time... treason.
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You forgot Mitch McConnell !
I think it may explain some of his actions.
But I don't care if half are dem's... they must go if implicated. Jail time... treason.
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The white knights haven't come to her rescue yet. Is there finally something they find indefensible? Nahhh. They're all fucking their moms tonight because that's what they do on Monday.
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Don't these people understand that all of us are leaving a huge digital footprint? Every email, every phone call, every text is being tracked and saved.... and if you are calling someone suspected of being a spy for the Russian government, you had better believe that phone call is being recorded.
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Don't these people understand that all of us are leaving a huge digital footprint? Every email, every phone call, every text is being tracked and saved.... and if you are calling someone suspected of being a spy for the Russian government, you had better believe that phone call is being recorded.
Please don't forget every international money transaction ;) NSA monitors SWIFT

who needs the NSA when you have nice lawyers like Cohen, wasn't it like 150 hours of recorded phone calls he had taped, that the FBI took in their initial bust... or did ya all forget that ;)

The Maria Butina case could just be a nothin'burger, but given the initial charges this could go as deep as it gets.
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https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...a-Hearing.html

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...tina-lobbying/

If I have to guess, and I do...
I kinda think they were padding the donations of regular Americans with or without their knowledge. They do it that way with normal campaign contributions where a employer donates 2k in the name of each of their employee's.
That is how it can be unnoticed to some extent. Breaking them up in little pieces.

I want those kinda details.
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So she's pleading guilty of conspiring against the U.S. since 2015 and acting as an agent of a foreign government.

Nothing to see here, no collussion right? stupid tRumplestiltskins!

Does the hypocrisy of your own country doing everything possible to meddle in every possible foreign election, but bitching when somebody follows suit, not burn a giant hole in your anus?

How do americans brains handle the massive double standard?
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Does the hypocrisy of your own country doing everything possible to meddle in every possible foreign election, but bitching when somebody follows suit, not burn a giant hole in your anus?

How do americans brains handle the massive double standard?
So... your beginning to see that when all this is over, Russia is going to be fucked back like never before and every ally will join in... because Russia was fucking with them too

Putin has sentenced your country to 200 years of poverty, clocks ticking mother fuckers.
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Maria Butina is the Russian woman asking this question ;)


So a gun rights activist who was previously the personal assistant of Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s central bank and a close Putin ally, just by chance gets a question ahead of reporters, where Trump tells his Russian Sanctions Policy...….
No collusion no collusion
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Does the hypocrisy of your own country doing everything possible to meddle in every possible foreign election, but bitching when somebody follows suit, not burn a giant hole in your anus?

How do americans brains handle the massive double standard?
The same way yours does...
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Why is everyone calling Butina a hot girl? Maybe to the fat, middle aged NRA schlubs she's hot, but she's a butterface by Russian standards of beauty.
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Why is everyone calling Butina a hot girl? Maybe to the fat, middle aged NRA schlubs she's hot, but she's a butterface by Russian standards of beauty.


Hot?

If you're into manly women with warts all over their face

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Does the hypocrisy of your own country doing everything possible to meddle in every possible foreign election, but bitching when somebody follows suit, not burn a giant hole in your anus?

How do Americans brains handle the massive double standard?
Point well taken except, most times, the US have been a easy unjust target for those claims in self promotion when things are not going well for Putin and those like him.

So these 'allegations' come with some level of proof, whereas those that Putin have used come only as allegations in self promotion.

But I suggest to you, that all of us as a people should be against corruption of our leaders and those yielding power and influence with money are against all of our common interest.

If the political system here in the states has taught us anything only some recognize is that they keep you fighting each other while they continue to do their deeds unnoticed.

Everyone should re-think just who their 'TEAM' is they are routing for.
I have nothing against the peoples anywhere in the world. Many minds have been filled with hate to provide a political objective. The sooner everyone sees that the sooner we can correct it.
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Why is everyone calling Butina a hot girl? Maybe to the fat, middle aged NRA schlubs she's hot, but she's a butterface by Russian standards of beauty.
You need to bring it into perspective she's 30 and for a 30 year old Russian that as hot as they get. I agree that Russian girls are some of the hottest on the planet, but that's only until there about 24, after then they usually have 19 children, become drug or alcohol dependant before some sort of toxic waste sterilization sets in. The men are the same.. all receive military brainwashing, their smart till 30 then basically vodka vegetables.

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You need to bring it into perspective she's 30 and for a 30 year old Russian that as hot as they get. I agree that Russian girls are some of the hottest on the planet, but that's only until there about 24, after then they usually have 19 children, become drug or alcohol dependant before some sort of toxic waste sterilization sets in. The men are the same.. all receive military brainwashing, their smart till 30 then basically vodka vegetables.

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btw. I dont agree with what what you posted, Russian MILFs are hot !
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btw. I dont agree with what what you posted, Russian MILFs are hot !
Ya know someone's got to be making a fortune buying up all that old stock wall paper and carpet from the 50's and selling it to Russians as the latest seasons accessories for 2019.

Fucking money making opportunity right there! who said these political threads aren't business.
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Didn't this spy meet with Trump Jr?
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That was a good read.

Interesting conversation they included between her and a "Russian official":

BUTINA: Time will tell. We made our bet. I am following our game. I will be connecting the people from the prayer breakfast to this group. Most importantly, you get better. Everything else we will win.
Taken in conjunction with the emails from others saying things like "we can get our boy elected", it really is something.

It's hard to remember all the threads of what we've seen, but do recall Kushner trying to set up communications through a Russian embassy, to avoid US intel.

Also remember the reports Obama had to implement new security measures when he found out sensitive documents were being taken out of secure holding by the transition team.

Then remember that several Russians were "disappeared" in February 2017, literally abducted from meetings by Putin's goons, with bags over their heads.

And then we have the several Russians turning up dead around the world, falling from balconies, being discovered in hotel rooms with severe head injuries after "falling down drunk", apparently ten times or more.

Skripal attack in the UK.

Some people are still thinking this was all about a dodgy business deal Trump tried to hide, but this is a genuine spy story where a foreign government likely breached the highest office of the United States and installed their candidate. There's no telling what damage he and his family of criminals have done since they had access to sensitive information.

I have little doubt the Skripal case, and several others, were the result of Kushner and Co giving the Kremlin national secrets.
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Didn't this spy meet with Trump Jr?
maybe...

What we DO know is that Trump Jnr meet with her handler Alexander Torshin one of Putin's top men.. a week before the Trump tower meeting.

Alexander Torshin is also the guy who brought the president of the National Rifle Association, David Keene, as an honoured guest at the conference of the Right to Bear Arms, a gun lobby in Moscow.

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You need to bring it into perspective she's 30 and for a 30 year old Russian that as hot as they get. I agree that Russian girls are some of the hottest on the planet, but that's only until there about 24, after then they usually have 19 children, become drug or alcohol dependant before some sort of toxic waste sterilization sets in. The men are the same.. all receive military brainwashing, their smart till 30 then basically vodka vegetables.

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Old 12-11-2018, 11:14 AM   #40
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So where are all the GFY gun nutters with their undying love for the NRA today? You know the NRA, the agency that sells guns right after mass shootings via rallies, the agency that tries to scare the piss out of you to make you buy more guns, the agency that tells you Obama was coming for your guns, and now the agency that tried to sell freedom out from under your own feet. Are you ready to cancel your NRA membership yet?
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Old 12-11-2018, 11:21 AM   #41
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maybe...

What we DO know is that Trump Jnr meet with her handler Alexander Torshin one of Putin's top men.. a week before the Trump tower meeting.

Alexander Torshin is also the guy who brought the president of the National Rifle Association, David Keene, as an honoured guest at the conference of the Right to Bear Arms, a gun lobby in Moscow.

Who else did she meet with? How many people did she meet with at the GOP, and what was discussed? LOL.
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Old 12-11-2018, 11:49 AM   #42
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Who else did she meet with? How many people did she meet with at the GOP, and what was discussed? LOL.
How many people like her are there ?
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:05 AM   #43
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Point well taken except, most times, the US have been a easy unjust target for those claims in self promotion when things are not going well for Putin and those like him.

So these 'allegations' come with some level of proof, whereas those that Putin have used come only as allegations in self promotion.

But I suggest to you, that all of us as a people should be against corruption of our leaders and those yielding power and influence with money are against all of our common interest.

If the political system here in the states has taught us anything only some recognize is that they keep you fighting each other while they continue to do their deeds unnoticed.

Everyone should re-think just who their 'TEAM' is they are routing for.
I have nothing against the peoples anywhere in the world. Many minds have been filled with hate to provide a political objective. The sooner everyone sees that the sooner we can correct it.

the USA can not afford to leave other countries alone...a lot of its economy depends on the direct exploitation of others and selling the defense racket and making them accept US inflation..."good guys finish last" is the name of the game, you will never win at poker while 1 player keeps cheating...you cheat or you get fucked...

also, are americans willing to change?...are they REALLY willing to give up their lifestyle so that other countries can have more freedom? I do not believe this for 1 second...interfering with others is now part of the american culture...if a paid thug goes to invade he will get a "thank you for your service" from 99% of the population...he will be called a "hero"...

america is too far gone IMO...
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I believe, at this point, Trump was a useful idiot for the Russians, and is a useless idiot for us.
This ........
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Old 12-12-2018, 02:14 PM   #45
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the USA can not afford to leave other countries alone...a lot of its economy depends on the direct exploitation of others and selling the defense racket and making them accept US inflation..."good guys finish last" is the name of the game, you will never win at poker while 1 player keeps cheating...you cheat or you get fucked...

also, are americans willing to change?...are they REALLY willing to give up their lifestyle so that other countries can have more freedom? I do not believe this for 1 second...interfering with others is now part of the american culture...if a paid thug goes to invade he will get a "thank you for your service" from 99% of the population...he will be called a "hero"...

america is too far gone IMO...
IMHO, we have all been given the shaft by our countries twists and turns manufactured by large corporations and others with as much money.

The current US and THEM point of argument has shifted but nobody sees it for what it is. We are all give other US and THEM arguments to fight.

Everyone seems content to be a pond on the chessboard.
The first to be sacrificed to protect the larger pieces.
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Watching you people echo chamber shit out is hilarious.

It's like watching an hour long procession of people patting each other on the back saying "you are good".

Bladewire and his Merry band of Fake Nics has this place sewn up air tight. Engagement and interest will continue to wain.

This thread, is the first of many more like it to come. The interest that Bladey is paid to have as a shill (insert his post history link here), will never balance out to the reality of someone who isn't paid to feign public opinion.

At that point, he will have to assume the role of "the opposition" as well.

Perhaps then Mark will be sated in his quest for some type of debate on the matter.

To those not getting paid to post political horse shit - wake the fuck up. Look at yourself, your life, and what you are choosing to do with your time.

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Human nature tends to make you block anything that makes you have to admit you were wrong. The easy route is to ride this to impeachment. Have fun with that.
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Human nature tends to make you block anything that makes you have to admit you were wrong. The easy route is to ride this to impeachment. Have fun with that.
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